Words not showing on Die Another Day

[Holomatrix]

I haven’t had this problem yet. Usually when there is a small section with another language speaking you can see the English translation come on the screen, but with the movie Die Another Day that does not happen when the Chinese people speak. Anyone know how to fix that with out turning on subs?
Thanks

EDIT: Turning on English subs doesn't work either

[mrbass]

usually when there is foreign language speaking in just certain parts of a movie there are two references to subs of the same language and both are required.
English 0x20 [x]
English 0x21 [x]
Spanish 0x22 [ ]
French 0x23 [ ]

So (can't remember now) but converting to SVCD only allows one subtitle (hit me in the head if I'm wrong) but this is probably the reason.

edit: ok now I thought about it...it does do 4 SVCD subs but my dvd player doesn't support those so I was always stuck using permanent subs thus my messed up thinking that it only does one sub.

[Holomatrix]

Thanks for responding. Will the subs show in WinDVD? because I did the 20 and 21 subs but no go. There looks to be 6 English subs. What would I choose? For each set there is Wide and Letterbox.

Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x26 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x27 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x20 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x21 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x28 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x29 Language: English

Thanks

[r6d2]

Originally posted by Holomatrix
Thanks for responding. Will the subs show in WinDVD?

AFAIK not if they're selectable subs. Only permanent ones.

because I did the 20 and 21 subs but no go. There looks to be 6 English subs. What would I choose?

I use PowerDVD and select each of them in turn with the context menu on the movie panel. That way I know they're there and which one I need.

To find the right StreamID may be trickier but DVD2SVCD shows them all with some text. Try using that to match what you expect to see on the subtitle stream you want.

(Edit: there are sometimes "Secondary" subtitles streams, which show only translated signs, dates, places and the like. You can see them with PowerDVD)

[Holomatrix]

Ok, I'll test again with PowerDVD. Thanks

EDIT: I'll need to get an older version of power DVD. I have version 5 and it dosen't want to play the clips

[sPeziFisH]

One of my friends asked me to help him with this problem yesterday.
He realized too late that he has to enable permanent subtitles - so his already encoded SVCDs do not have any Korean translations inside.
As he is a really bad boy the original DVD wasn't within reach any more - he showed me his ripped ifo (and vobs) but the right (here german) subtitle-stream was still indeterminable - the given streams contain to much subtitles (seem to be subtitles for aurally handicapped people), there were also some subtitles about interviews with the director etc.
I guessed that he had to rip another ifo-stream of the DVD to have the right subtitle-streams (I guess - don't know if DVDs are able to select only some of the subtitles (of one subtitle-stream, for instance the german one) to show them as forced subtitles - maybe the given ifo is still of use).
As he remebered some of the shown forced subtitles I gave the advice to use SubRip (http://zuggy.wz.cz/) to rip the german subtitle-stream - we used *.srt format (OCR) - and edited the file manually (plain text-file with special srt-format) :rolleyes:...
Whatever, it is done and one human more is lucky ;)

Have phun

[r6d2]

Originally posted by sPeziFisH
I guessed that he had to rip another ifo-stream of the DVD to have the right subtitle-streams.

Nope. AFAIK, the default for DVD2SVCD (and DVD Decrypter) is to rip all the subtitle streams. If your really bad boy :) friend used the default mode and he still has the IFO and VOBs he's ready. If they are not showing, I guess they were never there.

(I guess - don't know if DVDs are able to select only some of the subtitles (of one subtitle-stream, for instance the german one) to show them as forced subtitles - maybe the given ifo is still of use)

DVD Decrypter has a patch mode that allows you to change the StreamIDs at ripping time, to have them "normalized" (or made as default), and you can select the streams you want to rip just in case you want to save some space on the HDD. (However, IMO this using this last feture is not worth it. Subs take little space anyway.)

[sPeziFisH]

DVD Decrypter has a patch mode that allows you to change the StreamIDs at ripping time, to have them "normalized" (or made as default), and you can select the streams you want to rip just in case you want to save some space on the HDD.

That's called 'stream processing' - here you can omit any stream (audio 0x80 - ..., subtitles 0x20 - ...) - for instance if you omit subtitle-stream 0x22, then the old 0x23 will become the new 0x22 or if you omit audio-stream 0x80, then the old 0x81 will become the new 0x80 AFAIK.

Sorry, seams to be just another language confusion, probably due to my unfavorable expression. Here's my new try:

My friend has got a lot of subtitle streams inside his vobs, but not the one which is used to show forced subtitles (normally the forced subtitles have an own stream) - but here am not sure if DVDs are able to select some subtitles of the used subtitle-stream (whatever language is used) for aurally handicapped people to show them as forced subtitles (means only Korean translations) - for instance there are 1000 subtitles for aurally handicapped people but only number 1-4,9,23-30,... are used as forced subtitles (maybe they are specially marked) - don't know if this is possible as I'm not Mr.Subtitle.

As they seem not to be inside (inside those ripped vobs) I guess he had to rip another ifo - maybe those subtitles will be in the vobs of that ifo. At least when you watch the orig. DVD forced subtitles can be seen - if I would have that stupid movie I would tell you but...

[Holomatrix]

Ok, I tried on my DVD player with the max 4 English subs but they do not show up. They will if I put permanent subs but all the words show up in the whole movie :) S**T, I just realized that on the right side of the subs TAB in DVD2SVCD you can add more, up to eight, and since there are 6 english subs in my streams I will encode all 6 and see if they show up.