new version dvd2svcd with dvdr support comming soon

[Clixo]

just tried the new beta of dvd2dvd... and imho is just GREAT ! worked like a charm ! ... as usual.... the only bug i saw... i squeezed it against my screan.. it was a mosquito :D .
but there is more to do!
this version is the beta 4 so hard work is ahead ! but all of you know that ppl like their work to be apreciated... and lately dvd2svcd is not getting any of those! you know what i mean....

btw... it uses scenarist 2.7 for the authoring of the dvd !
and so far is movie only !

here is a small log just to show to all of you what is comming ! :
WNASPI32.DLL 4.6.0.1021
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- 7-31-2003 22:05:00
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2DVD ver. 1.2.1 build 1 BETA 4
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Initializing
- C:\teste\vob\VTS_01_0.IFO
- C:\teste\vob\VTS_01_1.vob
Initializing finished.

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- 7-31-2003 22:05:02
- Analyzing subtitles
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Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x38 Language: Deutsch
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x39 Language: Deutsch
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x2A Language: Svenska
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x2B Language: Svenska
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x22 Language: Français
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x23 Language: Français
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x24 Language: Italiano
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x25 Language: Italiano
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x26 Language: Deutsch
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x27 Language: Deutsch
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x28 Language: Español
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x29 Language: Español
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x2E Language: Dansk
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x2F Language: Dansk
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x20 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x21 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x30 Language: Suomi
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x31 Language: Suomi
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x32 Language: Islenska
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x33 Language: Islenska
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x2C Language: Norsk
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x2D Language: Norsk
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x34 Language: Portugues
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x35 Language: Portugues
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x36 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x37 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x3A Language: Deutsch
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x3B Language: Deutsch
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x3C Language: Español
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x3D Language: Español

Executing subtitle selection/verification.
Subtitle selection/verification accepted.
30 subtitle streams selected.
Saving Subtitles ini file
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- 7-31-2003 22:06:29
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[C:\teste\vob\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[C:\teste\vob\VTS_01_1.vob]
Framerate: 25000
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 7-31-2003 22:06:44
- Free on drive C: 6928.85 mb
- Extracting the subtitles.
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Subtitle extraction finished. Extracted these subtitles:
SVCD Stream no: 30 Language: Español Num. of subs: 1
SVCD Stream no: 29 Language: Español Num. of subs: 1
SVCD Stream no: 28 Language: Deutsch Num. of subs: 1
SVCD Stream no: 27 Language: Deutsch Num. of subs: 1
SVCD Stream no: 26 Language: Deutsch Num. of subs: 83
SVCD Stream no: 25 Language: Deutsch Num. of subs: 83
SVCD Stream no: 24 Language: English Num. of subs: 80
SVCD Stream no: 23 Language: English Num. of subs: 80
SVCD Stream no: 22 Language: Portugues Num. of subs: 66
SVCD Stream no: 21 Language: Portugues Num. of subs: 66
SVCD Stream no: 20 Language: Islenska Num. of subs: 72
SVCD Stream no: 19 Language: Islenska Num. of subs: 72
SVCD Stream no: 18 Language: Suomi Num. of subs: 51
SVCD Stream no: 17 Language: Suomi Num. of subs: 51
SVCD Stream no: 16 Language: Dansk Num. of subs: 48
SVCD Stream no: 15 Language: Dansk Num. of subs: 48
SVCD Stream no: 14 Language: Norsk Num. of subs: 49
SVCD Stream no: 13 Language: Norsk Num. of subs: 49
SVCD Stream no: 12 Language: Svenska Num. of subs: 48
SVCD Stream no: 11 Language: Svenska Num. of subs: 48
SVCD Stream no: 10 Language: Español Num. of subs: 49
SVCD Stream no: 9 Language: Español Num. of subs: 49
SVCD Stream no: 8 Language: Deutsch Num. of subs: 49
SVCD Stream no: 7 Language: Deutsch Num. of subs: 49
SVCD Stream no: 6 Language: Italiano Num. of subs: 53
SVCD Stream no: 5 Language: Italiano Num. of subs: 53
SVCD Stream no: 4 Language: Français Num. of subs: 52
SVCD Stream no: 3 Language: Français Num. of subs: 52
SVCD Stream no: 2 Language: English Num. of subs: 73
SVCD Stream no: 1 Language: English Num. of subs: 73

Saving Subtitles ini file
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- 7-31-2003 22:07:28
- Free on drive C: 6928.61 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: C:\teste\audio\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: -80 ms
Framerate: 25000
Audio extraction finished.

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- 7-31-2003 22:07:44
- Free on drive C: 6928.61 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Encoding Audio. Filename: C:\teste\audio\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "C:\teste\audio\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "C:\teste\audio\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "C:\teste\audio\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -C 0db -S 0db -c normal -s surround2 -g max ) -ota( -d -80 ) -2lame( -e -b 384 -m s )
Audio conversion of C:\teste\audio\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 7-31-2003 22:08:36
- Free on drive C: 6928.61 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 4494585788
AudioSectors: 17980788
VideoPAPO: 69345000
ScanOffsetBytes: 10938
SeqAligningBytes: 695171
DVDBytes: 1412217
VideoEndHeader: 4
SubtitleSectors: 8340836
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 0.00
PureMPEGStream: 4396800834.00
Seconds: 369.60
CalcMPEGStream: 4396800834.00
Frames: 9115
CDSize: 4300.00
Number of CDs: 1
Cut point 4287.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 9115
Anti Noise Filter: 10
Passes: 3
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 2000
Max. bitrate: 9000
Avg. Bitrate: 7500
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (borders added, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\AVISYN~1\Mpeg2dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\teste\vob\DVD2AV~2.D2V")
BicubicResize(720,432,0.0,0.6)
AddBorders(0,72,0,72)
Import("C:\teste\video\ResampleAudio.avs")
ResampleAudio(44100)
----AVS End----

Closing program
CCE Max Speed: 1.240
Video Encoding finished.

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- 7-31-2003 22:29:48
- Free on drive C: 6928.59 mb
- Creating DVD-Image using Sonic Scenarist
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Creating Sonic Scenarist Script file
Executing Sonic Scenarist
Closing program
Image creation finished.

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- 7-31-2003 22:34:07
- Free on drive C: 6928.57 mb
- Conversion done!
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PS do not pm me to send this beta ! i will NOT send it !
Only dvd2svcd has this right !

[VILLA21]

Good news! Think lot of people switch to DVD creations and already use DVD2SVCD 113b2 to make DVDs. Change some parameters eg CD size, min-max bitrates etc... Looking forward to test the pure DVD2DVD program :)

-About your log file, assume that u encoded a 16:9 movie, does your aspect ratio setting is ok?
Think that "Anamorphic, no borders added, encoded as 16:9" is the right one for DVD creations. Did u check your encoded DVD-R on your TV?

[The Belgain]

Excellent. Is this beta public or not? I can't seem to find it on the homepage?

If not, any tentative release date (I know it's bad form to adk, sorry)?

[dvd2svcd]

Originally posted by VILLA21
Looking forward to test the pure DVD2DVD program :)TV? I wouldn't call it pure dvd2dvd since it's an extension of dvd2svcd's abilities, just like when I added VCD support. Granted the use of dvd2dvd will increase more and more and svcd/vcd will decrease. Maybe someday I'll rename it to dvd2dvd ;)

Originally posted by The Belgain
Excellent. Is this beta public or not? I can't seem to find it on the homepage?

If not, any tentative release date (I know it's bad form to adk, sorry)? No it is not a public beta. Clixo has been beta testing dvd2svcd in a very long time. He has been using dvd2svcd since day one (15 june 2001). In fact he has all versions I have ever released. Maybe someday he'll make the dvd2svcd museum ;). He and DDogg is my trusted and best beta testers.

I don't have a release date yet, but I think it'll be soon. Check up on my homepage from time to time :)

[mrbass]

Originally posted by Clixo
btw... it uses scenarist 2.7 for the authoring of the dvd !
and so far is movie only !


awesome..simply awesome..can't wait to give it a whirl. I've don't use dvd2dvd-r that much anymore mainly due to the scenarist and subtitle bug. I have way more faith that dvd2svcd will have a better chance at handling NTSC titles than dvd2dvd-r. Pretty much use dvdshrink / autoshrink for everything nowadays.

Last month I served 24GB of just D2S113B2.zip alone. That tells you the the masses are still doing SVCD more than DVD±R. However, the tide is turning slowly with the DVD±R burners coming down in price.

I see on dvd2svcd.org that there's no links to the older version. Perhaps it's imminent (sp?).

edit: It's looks like scenarist is the way to go for awhile. Adobe Encore (winxp only) DVD around the corner and someday when DVDLab supports multiple audio tracks and fixes some bugs those two might be usable for dvd authoring too. We can only hope.

Does it support scenarist nt, 2.6 and 2.7 or only 2.7? No problem for me either way just asking.

[VILLA21]

Originally posted by mrbass
I've don't use dvd2dvd-r that much anymore mainly due to the scenarist and subtitle bug.

me too...right now i use DVDDecrypter + DVD2SVCD113b2 + (VobSub+Sub2Sup) and finaly IFOEdit for authoring :)

Feature request: IFOEdit(Freeware) as a 2nd alternative authoring tool.

[dvd2svcd]

Originally posted by VILLA21
Feature request: IFOEdit(Freeware) as a 2nd alternative authoring tool. Don't worry, as soon as Derrow releases the next version I'll try and support it. The main reason I didn't select IFOEdit was that it had big problems with NTSC titles. Roumors is that Derrow has fixed this and will release a new version of it soon.

Originally posted by mrbass
awesome..simply awesome..can't wait to give it a whirl.Sorry about that, I forgot to mail you too. You've been a great beta tester too. One beta for you in your mail asap.

Originally posted by mrbass
Does it support scenarist nt, 2.6 and 2.7 or only 2.7? No problem for me either way just asking. I developed it for use with Scenarist 2.7 and I haven't tried 2.6 But feel free to try it ;)

[Siku]

@dvd2svcd

This sounds great! But is there going to be a AVI2DVD mode or is it just the DVD2DVD mode?

Regards,
Siku

[The Belgain]

Yeah, I'd like to know that too. There is a lot of demand for AVI2DVDR.

[Clixo]

:D yes it also supports avi to dvd :D

it makes everything it made before, and adds the support to author the feeded file, dvd or stream ( pva NOT tested ) to dvdr instead of the regular cd.

[The Belgain]

I'm guess I'm probably not qualified with the number of posts I have (and only a few of those to do with DVD encoding), but how do you become a beta tester for DVD2SVCD.

I'm be happy to test it out if dvd2svcd feels like sending me this beta? I'm afraid I don't know enough programing (just a little C and VB) to be any real help though :(

[dvd2svcd]

Well, I pick my beta testers from personal experience. It's always somebody that I have had a long connection with and some one I feel I can trust. As it is now I'm not looking for anymore beta testers because those I have are quite good at feedback, sorry.

[Clixo]

bump.

[DDogg]

ROF, such a diplomat! He means that the beta testers he already has bug the hell out of him and he can't take anymore. :)

[Clixo]

lol
rof
:D

@ddog: i know what you mean ;)

[mrbass]

Originally posted by mrbass
[Does it support scenarist nt, 2.6 and 2.7 or only 2.7? No problem for me either way just asking.
ok NT is a no go but 2.6 and 2.7 work just dandy.

[jorel]

Originally posted by dvd2svcd
Well, I pick my beta testers from personal experience. It's always somebody that I have had a long connection with and some one I feel I can trust. As it is now I'm not looking for anymore beta testers because those I have are quite good at feedback, sorry.

the boring part for newbys like me:
we have to wait.....
but the recompense is great...as always!

:)

[The Belgain]

Just another feature request...would it be possble to have an option to import more than one avi file to fit to a single DVD (to merge the files)?

And how's the development coming along?

[Clixo]

@ belgian : do not make feature request .... not at the moment ! this is stil under HEAVY developmente and dvd2svcd needs to keep focus otherwise.... as he told me he gets MAD and PISSED ! .... but keep your requests for the future. just wait a little more.
For the moment with the current beta version.... as i said it is under HEAVY work. dvd2svcd do nmot whant to get ANY bug reports after this version is lauched so be patient and also de generous.... the donate link needs also some action.

[The Belgain]

Ok, sorry about that. Didn't mean to sound ungrateful for what we already have...:)

[Luper_PT]

In my case I'm not so optimistic about new DVD2SVCD, sorry.

I use DVD2SVCD to convert DivX/Xvid to DVD. For that, I'm very gratefull to DVD2SVCD, but I can´t see how DVD2SVCD can mux subtitles like sub or srt into the DVD.
If this is the case, my life will be DVDMaestro and the mess subrip makes to the subtitles until the judgement day :(

I realy hope I'm wrong

[dvd2svcd]

You are wrong. External subs also works in both dvd2dvd and avi2dvd mode. Why whouldn't they?

[r6d2]

Hi, @DVD2SVCD,

I put myself in the line of fire by posting this, after Clixo's warning, but what the hell. ;)

I think a great addition to versatility of DVD2SVCD would be to invert the order of the encoding. Do Video first, Audio later.

If the tool will (hopefully) incorporate not only the duration but also the compressibility of the source material at encoding time, you would be able to apply the 10% rule for audio size and get the audio the movie deserves after knowing how much space is left.

Sometimes you might add a second audio track, too, but you're affraid to because you don't know beforehand how compressible the movie is.

If video was analyzed before audio, you would be able to choose your filtering (light, heavy) to accomodate the Q for your encode and then go for the needed Audio BR as a result.

For users that are more earphile than eyephile, you might give the user a chance to say "at least this audio BR" (sorta "Q for audio"), so pleasing both kind of customers.

I certainly don't know the insides of you coding techniques, but seen from outside looks like no big deal. Forgive me if I'm wrong.

Regards,

[Clixo]

not only they work, but they work in sync in ALL the possible combinations. i now because i tested ALL of them

avi2dvd pal2pal
avi2dvd ntsc2pal
dvd2dvd pal2pal
dvd2dvd ntsc2pal

all 100% in sync !!

the external streams are working 100% in synk !!!

[jsquare]

Hi DVD2SVCD,
Completely agree with r6d2 on implementing video before audio processing. It makes a lot of sense for those of us that like to play with different settings before committing to a final conversion. This is only a request for future versions if possible, so don't take it the wrong way.

[sehh]

I'll push the bar a little further...


Why not do multiple steps in parallel?


Those of us with SMP systems do not use
the full potential of our hardware because
things are done in a streal line process
and CCE/Avisynth don't use 100% of a
dual processor system.

For example, i've got 4 RAID SCSI U160
drives here on a dual athlon board. This
means i can do A LOT of harddisk processing
without loosing too much speed (system
is rated at ~330mb/s buffered harddrive transfer).

It would be nice to do the video encoding
and sound extraction+encoding at the same time.

[sehh]

I've also counted the CPU usage and HD access while encoding
a 2 hour movie on my system.

A 2 hour movie takes about 6 hours to complete, and CPU usage
never exceeds 75% during that period.

HD access is high during the extraction process (of the video
and the audio) and during the creation of the bin images.

It would be nice if the extraction and encoding of the audio
was done while CCE was encoding the video. Since during that
time cpu usage is only as high as 75% and HD access is limited.

Another possibility would be to generate both bin/cue images
at the same time.

In other words, as many tasks are done in parallel the better.

I am sure it would be possible to make 6 hours of encoding into 5 or less.


Just an idea... :)

[r6d2]

Originally posted by sehh
I'll push the bar a little further...
Why not do multiple steps in parallel?

Those of us with SMP systems do not use
the full potential of our hardware because [...]
Sorry, @sehh, but I think the implementation of your idea has significantly higher impact in terms of effort with current technology, will help very few people (just those with SMP systems) and does not improve the quality of the encode.

My 2 cents to the wish list will help everyone to get a better encode faster (without the need to reextract and reencode audio) and with (I guess) quite less effort from the programmer.

There will be a time, some day, when SMP systems become mainstream and the OS will support seamless multithreading, making every task to use full systems resources and realizing every programmer's dream.

On the meantime, I guess you lucky guys just may have your system calculate prime numbers, digits for Pi, or any other "idle" appropriate task. Even defrag your hard disk.

Regards,

[sehh]

r6d2, you'll be surprised how many SMP'ers are around here.
although i understand that we are quite few.

still, i don't think it would require a lot of work. The same
steps will be exectued, in just different order and in parallel.

it wouldn't require any changes in existing ways of encoding.

well.. only dvd2svcd himself knows, so he is the only
person who can comment on the subject.

[r6d2]

Originally posted by sehh
r6d2, you'll be surprised how many SMP'ers are around here.
although i understand that we are quite few.
I would be surprised indeed, particularly when many equals few.
well.. only dvd2svcd himself knows, so he is the only
person who can comment on the subject.
Actually, anyone who has done paralell programming can comment on the subject.

And the fact that your suggestion has limited market and does not improve the quality of the encoding still prevails.

[sehh]

I see your point, although i disagree at your comment
about "parallel programming".

dvd2svcd would only have to make a small change to execute
two steps at the same time, instead of one after the other.

there is no 'extreme programming' involved.

so, for example, we could execute VCDImager twice, once
for each bin/cue image. There is no conflict or extra
programming to do that.

[r6d2]

Originally posted by sehh
dvd2svcd would only have to make a small change to execute
two steps at the same time, instead of one after the other.

Yeah, like burning two images at the same time! I have a friend who has 2 burners on different IDE ports. There are many, but are few too :)
so, for example, we could execute VCDImager twice, once
for each bin/cue image. There is no conflict or extra
programming to do that.
But @sehh, what happens with 3 disc encodes? Spawn a third one? And if the bottleneck is reached? So, in order to avoid this we define a CPU threshold level and incorporate process managing to an encoding tool?

Or a simpler case: Audio and video at the same time... Give less ram to CCE in order to run audio? What if the OS starts paging like crazy? Threshold level again on the disk i/o?

Sometimes things look simple, but they aren't. Try for yourself. Abort audio encoding and let DVD2SVCD restart. When CCE is encoding, try launching audio encoding by hand and come back with the result.

It is not extreme programming either, who knows if you really found something?

[ChickenMan]

Originally posted by Clixo
:D yes it also supports avi to dvd :D

it makes everything it made before, and adds the support to author the feeded file, dvd or stream ( pva NOT tested ) to dvdr instead of the regular cd.
Therefore I assume it does NOT convert the audio from MP3 (as in most AVI's) to AC3 for true DVD compatability mode them. In a normal AVI encoded with dvd2svcd, the audio is extracted, converted to WAV and then the wav to MP2. The final step uses BeSweet which is very capable of making AC3 from the wav as well. I just do this externally at the moment. This would streamline AVI to DVDR remarkably if implemented.

[dvd2svcd]

I would have supported wav -> ac3 if it wasn't for the fact the ac3enc (ffmpeg) isn't making proper AC3 audio file. I know that Pioneer users can't use the AC3 audio created by ac3enc (ffmpeg). I am however considering using Scenarists AC3Enc to create the AC3 file.

[sehh]

Originally posted by r6d2
Yeah, like burning two images at the same time! I have a friend who has 2 burners on different IDE ports. There are many, but are few too :)


Sure why not? i've got two as well :)

Originally posted by r6d2
But @sehh, what happens with 3 disc encodes? Spawn a third one? And if the bottleneck is reached?


Why not do the third one as well? My RAID system sustains nearly 400mb/s, so three bin/cue's at the same time are fine by me.
(400mb/s is buffered ofcourse, raid controller has 128mb onboard)

Originally posted by r6d2
Or a simpler case: Audio and video at the same time... Give less ram to CCE in order to run audio? What if the OS starts paging like crazy? Threshold level again on the disk i/o?


CCE uses around 700megs maximum here. That still leaves me 500megs
of free memory (1.2gig total). I've even tried running two dvd2svcd's
and when i had two CCEs encoding at the same time things worked
out smoothly (i forced each cce process on separate cpu's).

Originally posted by r6d2
Sometimes things look simple, but they aren't. Try for yourself. Abort audio encoding and let DVD2SVCD restart. When CCE is encoding, try launching audio encoding by hand and come back with the result.


CCE and audio at the same time? I eat that for breakfast ;)

[r6d2]

Originally posted by sehh
CCE and audio at the same time? I eat that for breakfast ;)
So, we are talking about a feature that needs not only 2 CPUs, but also multiple cd burners, 1.2-GB of RAM, a RAID capable of sustaining 400mb/s...

Sorry, @sehh. I guess that even fewer people have such a good breakfast. :D

If I were you, I'd buy a DVD burner and transcode everything with DVD splitting. Seems you have the money ;)

[ChickenMan]

Originally posted by dvd2svcd
I would have supported wav -> ac3 if it wasn't for the fact the ac3enc (ffmpeg) isn't making proper AC3 audio file. I know that Pioneer users can't use the AC3 audio created by ac3enc (ffmpeg). I am however considering using Scenarists AC3Enc to create the AC3 file.
Thanks for your reply. I have a Pioneer a05 and I'm having no problems with BeSweet (ac3enc) AC3 conversions. I author in Maestro usually and have yet to find a dvd player that cannot play them properly. I do hear some people complaining it doesnt work for them though.

The Scenarist AC3Enc sounds like a great way to "fix" the problem. I look forward to an update of dvd2svcd.

Cheers,
CM

[sehh]

Originally posted by r6d2
So, we are talking about a feature that needs not only 2 CPUs, but also multiple cd burners, 1.2-GB of RAM, a RAID capable of sustaining 400mb/s...

Sorry, @sehh. I guess that even fewer people have such a good breakfast. :D



i am at a loss of words :rolleyes:


Originally posted by r6d2
If I were you, I'd buy a DVD burner and transcode everything with DVD splitting. Seems you have the money ;) [/B]


to tell you the truth, i like SVCD's more. Dunno, they have
something about them that makes me like the idea of plain
CDs holding a whole DVD movie, which play on dvd decks.... :p

[sehh]

Oh, did i mention that i love the "change cd" picture?

can't do without it :D

plus, when one cd ends, it makes things look as if
you are in the cinema and have a break in the middle
of the movie, so you can go to the toilet, get
something to eat, etc. Sure you can just press pause
in the dvd movie, but the svcd's just makes it
feel... oldfashioned?

so i'm staying away from dvd2dvd at the moment...