My AVS Anime settings tell me what u think

[NightMare]

i use this for allmost all of my dvd rips and i stil get some good some bad i change it from time to time and this is the best i can come up with by the way i use ver 2.5.2

Telecide(guide=1).Decimate(5,mode=2)
BilinearResize(512,384)
Convolution3d(preset="animeLQ")
WarpSharp(5)

what do u think plz tell :D

[mf]

I think that's the psychlo-anime approach and to be honest pretty lame :D.

[NightMare]

so what do u suggest mf

[Kurosu]

As any good "encoder", I would suggest first to move the spatial smoother (if you really need to have one) before the resizing, as probably any additional noise remover (be it temporal or spatial). Warpsharp has the bad behaviour of producing "jumpy" lines because of the way telecide interpolates picture; besides this version isn't the best, and I would recommend awarpsharp by MarcFD.

A better and slower approach would be to use faerydust instead of convolution3D (or rather pixiedust, as you use AnimeLQ profile). Because of the way it works (16x16 block search, probably pixel-wise), getting rid of the borders is better. But it can be impossible because of the MOD16 dimensions' need of faerydust.

The use of BilinearResize can be strange, considering the low resolution. But overall, I don't mind that approach if the source is already clean, and if you plan to aim at an average filesize (175MB).

[mf]

Originally posted by NightMare
so what do u suggest mf
I would suggest Deen, LanczosResize and 640x480 as resolution, Decomb v5 beta 15, and TMCPost if you need to do deinterlace-postprocessing (does wonders for me).

Personally I use mfToon (my own invention :D) in encodes and try to get the maximum sharpness out of it, and encode them at 175MB. Of course, this is personal preference, so I can't really recommend it. But if you're using warpsharp anyway, you might wanna give it a try (and if your source is very good (no line darkening needed), just use SSXSharpen (http://nabeshin.ddo.jp/avisynth/SharpTools-v0.1.avs)).

Oh, and if your source is analogue, you might like UnFilter to get rid of the DVD-sharpening artifacts (best seen as dark edges around bright objects, and dark lines along cel shading).

[NightMare]

u r so right Kurosu i had some jumpy frames and i used the smother b4 the resize but its a bit slower i was going for speed cuz u know 26files 20min each can take a long time

i'm gona try awarpsharp and see right now i'm encoding Trigun and i'm havin some problems with it

[NightMare]

mf i use mftoon somtimes but its not so good with old animes like slayers but with tweaking it dose wonders :D
thanx for a great tool

[mf]

Originally posted by NightMare
mf i use mftoon somtimes but its not so good with old animes like slayers but with tweaking it dose wonders :D
thanx for a great tool
Oh so you're into analogue stuff then :). Try Deen("a3d", 4, 10, 10, 50) just for fun :D.

[WyldeF1r3]

Originally posted by mf
I think that's the psychlo-anime approach and to be honest pretty lame :D.

Where can I read more about this "psychlo-anime approach?" I didn't get much with the search button. Is that approach anything like fansubbers approach of too much temporal averaging, or just overfiltering in general? Isn't it generally a bad idea to use any sort of predefined "approach" concerning encoding sources since so much are different?

As for you NightMare, applying filters before resizing generally is not such a solid idea, it also tends to increase the encoding time. Owning trigun on DVD myself I can tell you that it's not in need (in fact most dvds aren't) of any aditional sharpening. All warpsharp succeeds in doing is thinning the dark lines at higher settings and warping (smoothing) the high frequency areas around those lines making the picture look shiny and plastic. Something that focuses strictly on the lines themselves like xsharpen or msharpen would be much better suited to it. Also, Billinear resize is a softer resize which can reduce image sharpness, you might want to try going with LancsozResize instead. I don't know which version of c3d you're using (the yv12 or yuy2 version) but I recommend using the yuy2 version, in my personal tests it has given NOTICABLY better results in both compression and noise reduction.

[NightMare]

Originally posted by WyldeF1r3
As for you NightMare, applying filters before resizing generally is not such a solid idea, it also tends to increase the encoding time. Owning trigun on DVD myself I can tell you that it's not in need (in fact most dvds aren't) of any aditional sharpening. All warpsharp succeeds in doing is thinning the dark lines at higher settings and warping (smoothing) the high frequency areas around those lines making the picture look shiny and plastic. Something that focuses strictly on the lines themselves like xsharpen or msharpen would be much better suited to it. Also, Billinear resize is a softer resize which can reduce image sharpness, you might want to try going with LancsozResize instead. I don't know which version of c3d you're using (the yv12 or yuy2 version) but I recommend using the yuy2 version, in my personal tests it has given NOTICABLY better results in both compression and noise reduction.

i used allot of softeners on trigun cuz of the large size i get with lancsozresize try ep5 i got a 600+ file using no filters with this setting i reduced it to 300 i use the yuy2 ver

[mf]

Originally posted by WyldeF1r3
Where can I read more about this "psychlo-anime approach?" I didn't get much with the search button. Is that approach anything like fansubbers approach of too much temporal averaging, or just overfiltering in general? Isn't it generally a bad idea to use any sort of predefined "approach" concerning encoding sources since so much are different?
Psychlo-anime is an R1 DVD anime group. They get a DVD and just rip it, no own translations, no polishing, no care about how many eps will fit on a CD. The quality is usually pretty crap for the size of the eps (230MB+), and they even resize to 512x384 (not all of them do though).

[WyldeF1r3]

lol, you say that like there's something wrong with 512x384. Sure with the advances in technology there is no reason people can't hit reasonable filesizes at 640x480, but at least they weren't resizing to 448x336 XD

[Tri]

Oh my, I really thought the samples on their page were extremly high quality :)
I myself have tried really hard to encode my Crest of the Stars DVDs to XviD, but they never ever came out looking as good as the Psychlo-Anime ones :(