Multiangle in main movie help

[Alanoll]

first off, i'd like to say if this has already been addressed somewhere feel free to point me in the right way :p

mmkay, my problem. I'm reauthoring Shanghai Noon.
In VTS1, there are 3 angles. However it is only parts of the movie. Like VOBID1 doesn't have the angle, while 2/3 are angle. There are 39 VOBIDs with 2/3,12/13,33/34,and 36/37 as the angles.

How would i compile this in Scenarist? Yes i've looked at trilight's guide, and i get the *.5 errors. How do i do it so the new IFO matches the old? If i put angles on all the VOBIDs that don't, then i'm creating angles and the old IFO doesn't have room for the old.

If someone could be so kind, please type a quick guide please?

[influenza]

Extract by vobid using doitfast4u, be sure to check all angles if you also want subs.

Based on your example:

create tracks for the vobids in scenarist, but you only create tracks for the parts that do no have angles or for the part that are angle one so:
1,2,12,33 etc

for the parts that have two angles go to the track editor and using the angle button (little camera in the upper part of the screen) add an extra angle. Drag the video part that contains the angle there (3, 13, 34 etc). In the layout editor compile your layout just as the original by dragging the tracks to it. If you drag a track containing an angle there will be two vobids created automatically just as the original. (First try a little piece of the entire pgc and compile that open your ifo to see if it's the same. to prevent you from a lot of work for nothing :sly: )

[Alanoll]

i tried that.
quick questions...
do i restrict GOP and all the other good stuff on the VOBIDs that aren't angles as well?

[influenza]

no only for the vobids that are angles (2/3,12/13 etc). But what's exactly your problem? If you do it like this I'm 100% sure it will work out.

[Alanoll]

Info Multiplexing VOB Main Stream
Error This VOB duration (1222.5 frames) is not multiple number of frame.
Error dvd_mux : DoMux Multiplexing Error
Error Terminated Multiplexing (test2.scn-VTS__05_V02.16~9_1.mpv-t_t.vob.0).
Error The VOB duration must be even number of fields.
Error Multiplex is failed.
Info Multiplexing failed, Track<VTS__05_V02.16~9_1.mpv-t>

Error MuxFromDB:MuxVTS failed
Error Multiplex failed
Error DVD files could not be created



that would be my error message. VOBID2 is the multiangle 2/3 , with VOBID 4 being a Cell afterwords. And then Chapter and whatnot.
It worked fine with Just VOBID 1 and 2/3 but when i tried to add number 4 i get that message.

[influenza]

I think this has to do with a bug in dvd2avi, sometimes some frames are thrown away by it. You should check your dvd2avi project and make sure there'a an even number of frames and also that the number of frames is the same for the angles.

[Alanoll]

VOBID1 has 16493 frames
VOBID2 has 978 frames
VOBID3 has 978 frames
VOBID4 has 7254 frames

like i said before, it compiles fine and whatnot with just VOBID1 and multiangle 2/3, but once i had VOBID4 with is single angle, it won't compile.

[influenza]

Does vobid4 compile on its own? What your layout (number of audio etc per track)?

[Alanoll]

it compiles on its own. If i remove the Angle it compiles on its own. There are only one Audio track per VOBID (at the moment) for simplicity's sake.

How do you remove the angle? (little off topic i know), but my IFOEdit doesn't have the "Remove Angle" option available. And when i just recreate without angle and hit the Get VTS Sectors, i get an error that the end of the IFO is not where its supposed to be.

I'd prefer to keep the angles, but on this whole board, i haven't seen anyone who's done it yet, or atleast has posted about it.

[influenza]

I always keep all angles and have never had any problems with it (at least none that were unsolved). I don't know about removing angles with ifoedit, never used it.

What you might try (don't know how long it will take) is removing your vaf file and reencode just vobid4, just to be sure it's ok.

I wish I could be of more help, but the error message it's kind of strange. if it compiles on it's own it should also compile fine in conjunction with the other files, but scenarist can bitch every now and then unfortunately.

[Alanoll]

i'm gonna try and start from scratch. I'll reencode VOBIDs 1,2,3,4 for test, as well as recreate the project in Scenarist.
I hope this works.

Thanks for your help even if it doesn't work.
What version of Scenarist do you use? It might be a bug in my 2.6 version. Just curious if its version dependent.

[influenza]

I'm using 2.6 as well

[Alanoll]

nope same error.
anyone else able to try and help besides influenza?
please???
someone has got to have had this error and found a way to fix it.

[{misfits}]

Did you possibly use VerticalReduceBy2() anywhere in the encoding process? I had the same error in Scenarist when I used that method incorrectly in the .avs file.

[Alanoll]

nope.
i just ran it through with the default settings from DIF4U & DoCCE

[D3s7]

I'm getting that same error on a DVD i'm doing...... not sure what it is

you ever have any success?

[tao52]

This is how I fixed this problem.

Right now I bet your avs script looks like this or something like it

import("D:\DoItFast4U\new.avs\addaudio.avs")
LoadPlugin("D:\DoItFast4U\new.avs\mpeg2dec3.dll")
Mpeg2Source("VTS__01_V04.16~9_1.d2v",idct=0)

AddAudio()
ConvertToYUY2()

and the begining part of your d2v file has these 2 lines

Field_Operation=1
Frame_Rate=23976

The first thing you have to do is change the field operation to 0, then change the framerate to 29970. The 2nd thing to do is add the following 2 lines to your AVS script

LoadPlugin("D:\DoItFast4U\new.avs\decomb.dll")
FieldDeinterlace()

Make sure you add both of these lines after the Mpeg2Source line in your avs script. Also dont forget to correct the paths to your files as mine are surely different from yours.

If anyone can explain to me why this works please let me know. All I know is that I have a full backup of this movie using this method and it is perfect no sync issues at all.

[D3s7]

Interesting... so basically changing it to an interlaced file and set to decomb fixes that error..

I'm giving it a try right now.....

I tried dumping in the original .m2v file too and it didn't work w/ that one either... lets see if this works


Just tried that w/ the file I'm using that's in question... same outcome..

Error This VOB duration (1652.5 frames) is not multiple number of frame.
Error dvd_mux : DoMux Multiplexing Error

[wollmann]

I got today this massage while trying to do an angle DVD:

Error The duration between VOBs in the multi-angle block is not same. (Main:9832.0 frames , Angle#1:13608.0 frames)
Error Please check the video streams or the track editing.
Error dvd_mux : DoMux Multiplexing Error
Error Terminated Multiplexing (blast.scn-VTS__01_V02.I-TFF.4~3_1.n_1_t.vob.1).
Error Duration between VOBs in the multi-angle block is not same.
Error Multiplex is failed.
Info Multiplexing failed, Track<VTS__01_V02.I-TFF.4~3_1.n_1>

can someone help me? what can I do? how can I make the frames to be the same?

wollmann

[D3s7]

Your angle file has WAY more frames then your main... you sure you dropped in the correct VOBID?

[wollmann]

yes I did.
and they both have the same time.
well, just got on the problem, CCE didn't went fine, will try again now.

I will tell you the results.

Thanks

o.k.
now it wrote me this:

Error ERROR in Interleaving.
Error ERROR in making ILVU.
The PTSs are different at ILVU#160 in CELL#2.
Error Dvd_ilv : Reconfig Vobset Tree Error
Error Terminated Interleaving (blast.scn-VTS__01_V02.I-TFF.4~3_1.n_1_t.vob).
Error Start PTS of ILVUs in each angle are deferent. The encoding paremeters should be same between angles.
Error Interleave is failed.


what should I do in this matter?

[Eyes`Only]

Make sure you close all GOPs and restrict auto I-frame insertion in CCE. If you haven't done this, delete your .vafs, and go back and reencode.

[wollmann]

I did, and it a week ago, and it worked great.

Thank you All!!!