Help Please! Gods & Generals (Four hour 2 sided DVD)

[bretbowman]

I'm trying to backup my Gods & Generals DVD. Half the movie is on side A and the Other half on Side B (total playing time: 231 minutes - I'd like to burn this eventually onto on standard dvd-R). I have extracted both sides into separate folders demuxing the audio. I'd like to rebuild both "side's" vobs into a master folder that contains vobs from both sides in one set, and keep AC3 audio extracted/separated... or if there is an easier way than I've taken so far, please feel free to correct me. :)

I think that I'm going to run into similar problems when I try to backup my Pearl Harbor DVD set (movie split over 2 DVDs), so if there is a universal way to execute this proceedure that will work for BOTH movies, please let me know.

Thanks in advance for any assistance that can be offered. I know that as of right now I cannot do this with the software that I have, so I'm sure that I'm going to have to be learning some new programs.

Thanks,

Bret:)

[oddyseus]

Search for flipper discs. There r numerous threads and suggestions about such situations.

[jupiter0713]

Originally posted by bretbowman
I'm trying to backup my Gods & Generals DVD. Half the movie is on side A and the Other half on Side B (total playing time: 231 minutes - I'd like to burn this eventually onto on standard dvd-R). I have extracted both sides into separate folders demuxing the audio. I'd like to rebuild both "side's" vobs into a master folder that contains vobs from both sides in one set, and keep AC3 audio extracted/separated... or if there is an easier way than I've taken so far, please feel free to correct me. :)

I think that I'm going to run into similar problems when I try to backup my Pearl Harbor DVD set (movie split over 2 DVDs), so if there is a universal way to execute this proceedure that will work for BOTH movies, please let me know.

Thanks in advance for any assistance that can be offered. I know that as of right now I cannot do this with the software that I have, so I'm sure that I'm going to have to be learning some new programs.

Thanks,

Bret:)

Gods and Generals certainly was a test in reauthoring - that is essentially what I had to do to make this be what I wanted it to be and did it across 2 discs (movie only on one disc and commentary with some of the extras on a separate disc).

First I ripped movie part 1 and part 2 into separate folders, then commentary part 1 and part 2 with some of the extras into a separate folder. using the joining guide I found on www.sirscrub.com, I joined Movie 1 and 2 into one folder and commentary 1 and 2 with extras to another folder...followed the guide using VOBEdit and IFOEdit using DVD2One to join and DVDShrink to reauthor (I have no menus on any of this - to get it the way I wanted, there was just no way to keep the menus). for some reason, after the join, there was about 25 chapters with no time or data at the split so I placed 2 copies of the movie title into DVDShrink using reauthor mode, and did start/end points for both parts. Essentially did the same with the 2nd disc (commentary and extras that also has no menus, just spearate titles that play sequentially).

This was a terribly authored disc from the studios, in my opinion and dont see why the commentary had to have its own video stream...it should have just been a separate audio track - this cannot be seen anything else except the studio's attempt to prohibit backups by making it this complicated. I certainly hope that it doesn't become a standard method for authoring on the studio's part - I personally HATE movies that I have to flip the disc or insert another in order to watch it straight through.

[influenza]

Doesn't dvd2one has this option to join these kinds of dvds? I would suggest to use it to join it (without compression if you want cce to do this). After the creation of the new title just tread it as any normal title, so reencode and put it on a dvd-r

[jupiter0713]

Originally posted by influenza
Doesn't dvd2one has this option to join these kinds of dvds? I would suggest to use it to join it (without compression if you want cce to do this). After the creation of the new title just tread it as any normal title, so reencode and put it on a dvd-r

Yes it does, but I'm not happy with the re-encoding results (doesnt come out right in my opinion - and I'm not completely up on my CCE re-encoding methods), so I use DVD2One with no compression and use DVDShrink to reauthor at the compression I need, and do an analysis before proceeding. works like a charm - at least until I figure out how to properly re-encode with CCE.

[idbirch2]

I use DVD2One with no compression and use DVDShrink to reauthor at the compression I need

I think, no I know, on a 4 hour movie any 1-click program will give poor results whether its DVD2One or DVDShrink - that's just too long for any transconder. Fully re-encoding is the only option with a movie this long. Check out the guides here on Doom9, you only have to follow them through a couple of times then it becomes second nature.

You'll find that The Big 3 make the CCE/Scenarist method of backing up very easy - give it a try. I would even consider doing a direct copy of each side onto seperate DVD-Rs with a disc that big. Even though you'd have to swap the disc, with a nice double DVD case, sleeves and labels it would make a nice looking box set (plus the menus would remain intact - I imagine that certain links in the menus will instruct you to flip the disc - these will obviously be wrong if you back up to a single disc.)

[Ak47]

Think even thogh it's a large title you might still get away with this on a single DVD-R.. I have seen and created multis which exceed this running time..

Your main problem is, as mentioned by others, the desire to use a 1-clicker to perform the backup...

CCE encoding would produce passable output.. but anything else will be dire IMHO