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killingspree
20th July 2003, 13:00
hi,
I'm currently doing a full backup of Disk One of Shrek (R2) - which contains the main movie and a few extras.

Anyway, the problem I encounter is connected to either DoItFast4U or Vobsub.
But let's start up front: I did a normal PGC rip, then encoded using DoCCE4U, afterwards i reauthored using Reauthorist. when i loaded the scenarist script into Scenarist NT (2.6) it crashes after a while.

So i started piecing the DVD together manually (not to hard - 3 VTS two of them with 2 PGCs - nothing special. What I discovered then is that the subtitles were causing the problem. Somehow the times for the respective sub pictures were overlapping causing scenarist to give some nasty errors. since those were only a couple of occurances (maybe 15 per sub stream) i was able to fix the first one (which was most important for me). the other ones were not fixable at all.

Now i'm wondering if this might be an error on the original DVD or, what is probably more likely, directly connected to the fact that i ripped directly from the DVD and not from an iso file (i was in a hurry... :)

steVe

brashquido
22nd July 2003, 04:00
I suppose the obvious test would be to rip the movie again, but this time to ISO then give it the big 3 treatment from there.

influenza
22nd July 2003, 07:30
I did this one using the big three and everything went according to plan. No problems with subs or anything.

killingspree
22nd July 2003, 10:25
hehe... I just prooved myself to be stupid once more. The DVD contains 2 angles... :rolleyes: and oh well... di4u didn't tell me :)

anyway, i'm now ripping it by cellid... hope it'll work out the way i want it now.

i reauthored the first try manually leaving out the subs completely, but the DVD got totally screwed...

will report back after manually reauthoring the multiangle part!

steVe

influenza
22nd July 2003, 10:29
Hi,

I did this by vobid and that worked out (said big free, but only for extras that is). I only had a problem that after reencoding I ended up with assets that were to big to fit on dvd-R (wrong bitrate calc by doitfast4u), I'm curious if you will have the same problem.

killingspree
22nd July 2003, 11:03
well i did the bitrate calc manually so i think it should be ok. anyway, when i first started up reauthorist it wanted to encode one 22 minute extra @ 18 000 kbit or 312% - LOL ... i just turned down the bitrate manually and then calculated the bitate for the main movie after knowing how much free space i had left on the DVDR...
currently i'm encoding, so this evening i will know how it works out! :)

steVe

influenza
22nd July 2003, 11:04
The reauthoring should not be any problem. The angled stuff is really short anyway.

fourtyfour
22nd July 2003, 16:58
servus...

Hm, I did the movie last year with Scenarist manually.

You will become problems with the angles duration.

You need to equalise the durations from dvd2avi project!

Look at the CCE duration with imported *.d2v and compare with the original length of the file and youŽll see the difference.
There is a possible way to get right duration by filling up the " 2Žs "
in the project.

Without this equalise you will have a audio/video sync at the begin/end of the angles.

This is a very "stupid" bug from DVD2Avi reported long time ago.(DVD2Avi forum)

killingspree
22nd July 2003, 21:59
the angles are very short so a slight bit of non-sync video won't hurt too much... :)

but just to verify: is it always 5 frames that D2A 'looses'?

but why i'm really posting here again: DoItFast4U screwed up the subs again :( - i ripped by CellID, but Di4u 'decided' to do the subs by VobID. since about 3 quarters of the movie consist of one vobid (which consist of 21 cells) - this is kind of strange as i'm left with 21 folders all containing the subs for the whole vobID :confused:

steVe

influenza
23rd July 2003, 07:24
why not do it by vobid anyway?

killingspree
23rd July 2003, 08:02
wouldn't work out iirc. the distribution of cells doesn't allow it...

anyway, i've just left the subs out. they weren't this important anyway!

steVe

influenza
23rd July 2003, 08:29
Why wouldn't the distribution of cells not allow it? If you do it by vobid you can also lay-out the cells as wanted. I've done it by vobid and everythings fine.