UpmiX: tool to automate stereo to 5.1 conversion (v0.71)

[SallyDog]

Thanks!

[bitsnbytes]

Originally posted by Eye of Horus
Also : you can download from the newsgroup the 4 songs. Listen to them and decide for yourself which you prefer.
EoH



I'm sorry I dont use newsgroups or know which one they are on... but if u post links i will download and examine.

So far my fav surround tests are pink floyd Time
Billy Thorpe Children Of The Sun. And Shooting Star Last Chance, Probrably Rush 2112-Overature

Oh yeah I did that Dallas Symphony cd Yeah that was kool.


Did not enjoy Lindsey Buckingham out of the cradle in surround well it was ok but not "Dynamic" as the others.

I was looking thru ur guide seems to spread out for me to get a good comprehension of the task.
Hopefully you will refine the guide a little. Aurora plugin kept barking that it uhj w was not a valid .wav file and i couldnt get xp clipoard to show up other than empty.


:angry:

[Eye of Horus]

Ready Friday....

Just a pre-note : no more Cooledit and Aurora. ;)

kind regards,

EoH

[bitsnbytes]

@ Kpex

I'm not much of A script artist, but perhaps you could get the encode.bat to render A multiple # of tracks.

Like say i rip a cd and instead of the normal naming convention of artist track and such. I rip the cd using track 01 track 02 etc.

The script would do up to track 15 and if the tracks end at track 13 it would just end there.


My kickstart bat file is Encode.bat H:\wav2ac3\infile.wav -debug : Would something like this work
Encode.bat H:\wav2ac3\track 01.wav;track 02.wav;track 03.wav;track 04.wav;track 05.wav;track06.wav -debug

I would still like to keep temp mono waves
so maybe track 01fl.wav track 01fr.wav
but would like the temp 2ch files deleted i believe they are named like frontleft frontright etc also the originating file i would like to have deleted.

Also would like to have the seconday script where it does not go into ac3encode.dll but stops at the mono wav files. so maybe two versions, one for ac 3encode and one for just the mono waves.

I rip the cd to the dir. i press encode i get 6 wav files for each song and everything else gets deleted. I believe this is something you were looking into with EAC.

[Eye of Horus]

You could also rip a complete CD with EAC.
Save the Cue.
Process the one big file.
Process the processed file with the cue to get separate tracks...

ready...

EoH

[bitsnbytes]

heh ready :cool:

[KpeX]

@all

Here is (edit: v0.50 is buggy, see post below for new version)

-All settings are now configured in the included settings.ini file. Double click this file and set output types (output_wav, output_ac3) to true or false. Also set reverb to true or false and configure the directories as before. No more commandline options are needed other than input and output names (if auto naming is not wanted).

-Supports multiple file upmixing with the included batchenc.bat. Usage: batchenc.bat "infile.lst" where infile.lst lists all files and their paths to be upmixed, .wavs or .mp3s. If no infile is specified, all wavs and mp3s in the current directory will be upmixed.

-Output waves are named based on the input, i.e. Channel1-FL-inname.wav.

Thanks to all who use and test. Hope this quick usage overview makes sense. Feel free to ask if it doesn't ;)

[daphy]

@ Kpex

nice piece of work :)
Question:
Is it possible to feed the ini file with something like a little pre-setup-program?


@ KPEX & EOH

what do you think about programs like bat2ex, BED, DOMENU, iNpUTer (http://www.bookcase.com/library/software/msdos.util.batch.html)...?
Maybe it´s possible to improve easier handling :rolleyes:

CYA Daphy

[KpeX]

@Daphy

1. Thanks :)

Is it possible to feed the ini file with something like a little pre-setup-program?

@ KPEX & EOH

what do you think about programs like bat2ex, BED, DOMENU, iNpUTer...?
Maybe it´s possible to improve easier handling

I'm not sure I totally understand the request, daphy. How would you like to feed the ini file? How would you like the handling improved?

Edit: Looking at the link you posted, daphy, most of those programs are dated in the early and mid '90's, I highly doubt they would accomodate the windows 5.x (2000/XP) batch syntax. But I'm open to suggestions, what do you think the handling is missing?

[KpeX]

@all

Don't use version 0.50, there are several dumb syntax mistakes, fix coming soon.


Edit: v0.51 is also buggy.

Usage remains the same, thanks to all who test and use.

Edi2: Here's version 0.52 (http://www.freewebs.com/kpex/encodeac3v0.52.zip), hopefully got all the bugs ironed out now.

[KpeX]

Time to revive an old thread - anybody use this anymore? :D

Anyways, here's UpmiX v0.6 (http://www.freewebs.com/kpex/UpmiXv0.6.zip). Basically it should be more configurable and simpler to use now. Here's a quote from the readme:

Changes:
v0.6
-Rewrote a lot of the script
-Changed the name ;)
-Supports any input format besweet can decode
-Resampling is an option
-Complete besweet logging function


Credits:

Reverb ideas and settings: Eye of Horus and Kempfand
Bugfixes and Testing: Doom9 Forum

Tool to use BeSweet and Sox to process stereo audio to 5.1 Dolby Digital AC3, or 6 wavs.

Usage:

There are two batch files included with the distribution, Encode.bat is for upmixing a single file, and BatchEnc.bat for a group of files.

1. Setup: Unzip all the files in the archive to the same directory. Configure the settings.ini file each time you encode, it contains all settings needed for the upmix.

-The first two settings are clear, set output_wav and output_ac3 to true or false, depending on what kind of output is desired. Both can be true.

-Resamplefreq should be the frequency to resample to in Hz. Leave this field blank is no resampling is desired.

-Reverb should be set to true or false, to determine if a reverb will be applied to all channels except LFE.

-Preload_audio should be set to the delay in milliseconds to apply before the AC3. When synching with video remember to set this to zero.

-AC3_bitrate should be set to the desired AC3 bitrate in kb/s.

-The last two fields, soxdir and bsdir, should reflect the locations of sox.exe and besweet.exe, make sure to use paths without spaces (i.e. c:\program files\ becomes c:\progra~1\).

2. Usage: Simply call the batch from commandline after setting parameters, i.e. Encode.bat "path\infile.xxx" "path\outfile.ac3". If an outfile name is not specified it will be automatically named.

3. Batch usage: The included batchenc.bat can be used in two ways. If you simply run the batch without any parameters or by double clicking it, all .mp3 and .wav files in the current directory will be encoded to AC3. Alternatively, you can create your own list file that looks like

path\file1.mp3
path\file2.mp2
path\file3.wav
...

Save as file.lst and then encode it from commandline: BatchEnc.bat "file.lst"


Also keep in mind that ac3enc.dll of Besweet is known to produce b0rked AC3 streams, and should be used only for testing. When upmixing for any archival purposes or anything else you want to keep, please use the 5.1 wav function and encode with a commercial AC3/DTS encoder.

Enjoy the new version,

[puzio]

Hello Kpex.

Sorry for my english.
Thank You for your guide. I have one question.

On the guide there is line:

START /wait %bsdir%\besweet.exe -core ( -input %if% -output "%workingdir%\frontleft.wav" -logfilea "%workingdir%\%logfn%" -2ch ) -ssrc ( --normalize %sscom% -equ "%workingdir%\left.eq" -q 1)

If input is 32bits-float wave file the output frontleft.wav is only 16bits . So can You tell me how I must write this line to get 32bits float output. I use Besweet1523. BeSweet supports input/Output 32bits float but I don't know how.


THX

[KpeX]

Hi puzio, and welcome to the forums,

I could not find a switch either to perform the operation - -6chfloat is the only switch I can find to output 32bit wav. For the most part it shouldn't matter, however, because the heavy editing work is done within BeSweet, which uses a full floating point process. hth,

[jorel]

hello KpeX !

i don't knew UpmiX and EACtoAC3.
after read your post here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74496

i came to this thread, read a little (true,i don't read all)
then download and play the evanescence's "encodedAC3_samples" .

:eek:
very cool!!!

i have some questions and doubts, please help me..
the mp3 sample have too high volume, big presence...
nothing is wrong,i like less volume from the source, my personal taste.
i only use BeSweet with BeSweetGUI cos i'm horrible in command lines(too).
what i have to change in the command line to decrease the volume ?
or better....
don't have a "GUI" for UpmiX and for EACtoAC3 ?
future new versions ?
will be simple to use with a GUI
and give cool results...it can't stop!

thanks in advance! :)

great guide:
http://www.freewebs.com/kpex/EACtoAC3.htm
thanks for this too!

<edited>
the link to AVS2AVI CLI page in the EACtoAC3 guide is not working.

[KpeX]

Hi jorel,

Guides are outdated, the batch itself is outdated. Later tonight or tomorrow I will update UpmiX and the guides on my site, but for right now, everything on the site is pretty outdated. For now, I recommend using 0.6 as described in the readme and ignoring my outdated guides ;)

Regarding a GUI, I'm no programmer, so sorry :).

I will look into gain settings for the next version, if I can find a simple way to do it.

Thanks for your comments :)

[Tuning]

KpeX,

I have a small question.....

Can I perform the same procedure for creating 5.1 Ogg/AAC?
i.e, creating mono -> *.mux -> muxing in besweet with correct channel order.

Thanks:)

[KpeX]

Originally posted by Tuning
KpeX,

I have a small question.....

Can I perform the same procedure for creating 5.1 Ogg/AAC?
i.e, creating mono -> *.mux -> muxing in besweet with correct channel order.

Thanks:) I'll add such a feature :).

[KpeX]

Ok here is version 0.7 (http://www.freewebs.com/kpex/UpmiXv0.7.zip).

Added:

-Nero MP4 encoding ability ( completely untested, as I don't have Nero installed at the moment. Someone let me know if this works or not ( Tuning ;) )).

-Ogg Vorbis encoding ability has been added theortically, but it doesn't work. See here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=476495#post476495) for more information.

-Ability to add a user selected gain value (in percentage) when encoding, see the readme and settings.ini files for more information.

So summing up: gain works, nero might work, vorbis doesn't work. Have fun,

[jorel]

Originally posted by KpeX
Ok here is version 0.7 (http://www.freewebs.com/kpex/UpmiXv0.7.zip).
Added:
-Nero MP4 encoding ability
( completely untested, as I don't have Nero installed at the moment.
Someone let me know if this works or not ( Tuning ;) )).
-Ogg Vorbis encoding ability has been added theortically, but it doesn't work.
See here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=476495#post476495) for more information.
-Ability to add a user selected gain value (in percentage) when encoding,
see the readme and settings.ini files for more information.
So summing up: gain works, nero might work, vorbis doesn't work. Have fun,

thank you for the new version 0.7 (http://www.freewebs.com/kpex/UpmiXv0.7.zip). KpeX ! :)

excuse me to copy some details from the read-me...it's a "how to" include,
"Usage:

There are two batch files included with the distribution,
Encode.bat is for upmixing a single file,
and BatchEnc.bat for a group of files.

1. Setup: Unzip all the files in the archive to the same directory.
Configure the settings.ini file each time you encode,
it contains all settings needed for the upmix.

-The first four settings are clear,
set outputs to true or false, depending on what kind of output is desired.
Any combinations can be true.

-Resamplefreq should be the frequency to resample to in Hz.
Leave this field blank is no resampling is desired.

-Vorbis_quality should be set to the desired quality for vorbis VBR encoding.

-normval should be set to the desired percentage of maximum gain for the audio.

-Reverb should be set to true or false,
to determine if a reverb will be applied to all channels except LFE.

-Preload_audio should be set to the delay in milliseconds to apply before the AC3.
When synching with video remember to set this to zero.

-AC3_bitrate should be set to the desired AC3 bitrate in kb/s.

-The last two fields, soxdir and bsdir,
should reflect the locations of sox.exe and besweet.exe,
make sure to use paths without spaces
(i.e. c:\program files becomes c:\progra~1).

2. Usage: Simply call the batch from commandline after setting parameters,
i.e. Encode.bat "path\infile.xxx" "path\outfile.ac3".
If an outfile name is not specified it will be automatically named.

3. Batch usage: The included batchenc.bat can be used in two ways.
If you simply run the batch without any parameters or by double clicking it,
all .mp3 and .wav files in the current directory will be encoded to AC3.
Alternatively, you can create your own list file that looks like

path\file1.mp3
path\file2.mp2
path\file3.wav
...

Save as file.lst and then encode it from commandline: BatchEnc.bat "file.lst"

4. EAC usage: Set EAC compression options as a user defined encoder using extension
.ac3/.mp4/.ogg, and specify cmd.exe as the encoder,
with the cli options '/C "path"\encode.bat %S %D'

Be sure to use the latest BeSweet beta,
and feel free to modify and improve or post suggestions on the Doom9 forums."

;)

[Tuning]

KpeX, the last part on AAC creation is not working...
Here is the log:


BeSweet v1.5b26 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using Shibatch.dll v0.24 by Naoki Shibata & DSPguru (shibatch.sourceforge.net).
Using bsn.dll v0.22 by DPeshev,Richard,DSPguru (http://DSPguru.Doom9.org).

Logging start : 04/18/04 , 08:51:05.

C:\Downloads\UpMix\BeSweetv1.5b26\besweet.exe -core ( -input C:\Downloads\UpMix\UpmiXv0.7\ac3.mux -output absoloutly everybody-AAC5.1.mp4 -logfilea C:\Downloads\UpMix\UpmiXv0.7\EncodeAC3.log -6ch ) -ota ( -d 0 ) -bsn( -6chnew -config )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : C:\Downloads\UpMix\UpmiXv0.7\ac3.mux
[00:00:00:000] | Output: absoloutly everybody-AAC5.1.mp4
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: No
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 44.1KHz
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------
[00:03:42:710] Conversion Completed !
[00:00:18:000] <-- Transcoding Duration

Logging ends : 04/18/04 , 08:51:23.

The file that should be generated is "absoloutly everybody-AAC5.1.mp4", which is not found in Upmix folder or BeSweet folder.

Btw, Besweet acts like doing some encoding and stops without any output file. :(

Has any one tried ? :o

[KpeX]

C:\Downloads\UpMix\BeSweetv1.5b26\besweet.exe -core ( -input C:\Downloads\UpMix\UpmiXv0.7\ac3.mux -output absoloutly everybody-AAC5.1.mp4 -logfilea C:\Downloads\UpMix\UpmiXv0.7\EncodeAC3.log -6ch ) -ota ( -d 0 ) -bsn( -6chnew -config ) I was worried this wouldn't work, it may be the case that BeSweet doesn't support encoding of a .mux file to BSN. Tuning, if you could try the same command but omitting the '-6ch' switch from the core section and see if there is any change, that would be appreciated.

[Tuning]

BeSweet v1.5b26 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using Shibatch.dll v0.24 by Naoki Shibata & DSPguru (shibatch.sourceforge.net).
Using bsn.dll v0.22 by DPeshev,Richard,DSPguru (http://DSPguru.Doom9.org).

Logging start : 04/18/04 , 09:11:33.

C:\Downloads\UpMix\BeSweetv1.5b26\besweet.exe -core ( -input C:\Downloads\UpMix\UpmiXv0.7\ac3.mux -output absoloutly everybody-AAC5.1.mp4 -logfilea C:\Downloads\UpMix\UpmiXv0.7\EncodeAC3.log ) -ota ( -d 0 ) -bsn( -6chnew -config )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : C:\Downloads\UpMix\UpmiXv0.7\ac3.mux
[00:00:00:000] | Output: absoloutly everybody-AAC5.1.mp4
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: No
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 44.1KHz
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------
[00:03:42:710] Conversion Completed !
[00:00:18:000] <-- Transcoding Duration

Logging ends : 04/18/04 , 09:11:51.

Again the same, acts like encoding..but quits without an output file.

[KpeX]

Originally posted by Tuning


Again the same, acts like encoding..but quits without an output file. Thanks Tuning :). It appears that mux > MP4 does not work for now, so the only working output is 5.1 AC3. I will look into alternatives when time allows.

[gircobain]

Any clue on why the eq files are leading to differently sized channel wav's?

[Tuning]

Originally posted by gircobain
Any clue on why the eq files are leading to differently sized channel wav's?
I found a while ago that if the input file has some problems ( for example corrupt), it can cause messed up behaviour after each step.

May be this is your case too try on different files.

To me all files had same size.

[trooper11]

i just cant get mine to work either. i am ripping from a cd to a wav file then inputting it to convert to ac3, but all i get are quick besweet pop ups and then they close, then sox.exe stays open for a bit then closes, no sign of encoding and no output. i dont know what could be wrong with the source, the wav plays fine on its own, but in the log it keeps saying besweet cant open tempaudio.wav files .could there be a problem with besweet?

[KpeX]

trooper11: I would appreciate a sample of such a file. I await your PM.

[trooper11]

pm sent

[gircobain]

Originally posted by Tuning
I found a while ago that if the input file has some problems ( for example corrupt), it can cause messed up behaviour after each step.

May be this is your case too try on different files.

To me all files had same size.
Actually I found out that the reverb effect added by sox is what is causing different sizes. Oh well, guess I might just give up on adding reverb.

[jorel]

Originally posted by gircobain
Actually I found out that the reverb effect added by sox is what is causing different sizes. Oh well, guess I might just give up on adding reverb.

"seems logical" but not means that is right for this case.
when put reverber in any sound, the size will encrease
cos the time to show that audio encrease too!

is that type of problem that you got?

[KpeX]

Originally posted by gircobain
Actually I found out that the reverb effect added by sox is what is causing different sizes. Oh well, guess I might just give up on adding reverb. Thank you for this report. I will look into this when time allows, I have not tested reverb effects much lately.

[KpeX]

Here's version 0.71 (http://www.freewebs.com/kpex/UpmiXv0.71.zip). Mainly a bugfix release.

Changes:
Fixed my lame mistake that would have caused incorrect channel mapping on some systems with non-alphabetic default listings. Although this is rare and you probably shouldn't be concerned about old encodings, channel mapping will now be correct on all systems.

Enjoy,

[jorel]

Originally posted by KpeX
Here's version 0.71 (http://www.freewebs.com/kpex/UpmiXv0.71.zip). Mainly a bugfix release.

Changes:
Fixed my lame mistake that would have caused incorrect channel mapping on some systems with non-alphabetic default listings. Although this is rare and you probably shouldn't be concerned about old encodings, channel mapping will now be correct on all systems.

Enjoy,

enjoy ?
oh yes,this i will do...i only did tests cos my hds are full!
believe me, i came in this thread 5 times per day to see all details,
who and why post,news,etc...
everything cos like i told you, the results are amazing !
i'm cleaning my system, i need big space,
i have lots to do with UpMix .

thank you for the new version!
:)

[Eye of Horus]

The original method as Kpex posted a while ago, finally has it's follow-up. And...... improved quality !
Kempfand and me developed the same method as a Bidule to use in Plogue's excellent Bidule software !
The tool uses only freeware .
It works in 32 bits (which is already a big improvement for the soundquality and we did some adjustments)

For more information, see the thread :
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60137

The new bidule is on the last page of the thread.......

kind regards

Eye of Horus

[Tuning]

EoH, Can a GUI be made to automate your procedure....:)

Kpex's method can be GUI'sed and is easy because there is only two command line tools.

[Eye of Horus]

Originally posted by Tuning
EoH, Can a GUI be made to automate your procedure....:)

Kpex's method can be GUI'sed and is easy because there is only two command line tools.

A gui for a bidule ???

yeah, right :D


EoH

[Tuning]

Originally posted by Eye of Horus
A gui for a bidule ???

yeah, right :D


EoH

Sorry I haven't tested your method, It is difficult for my poor brain to undersatnd.
Sorry If I made some mistake by asking a GUI. :o

[Eye of Horus]

Originally posted by Tuning
Sorry I haven't tested your method, It is difficult for my poor brain to undersatnd.
Sorry If I made some mistake by asking a GUI. :o

Hi,

I forgot to mention that the SAD bidule is on the last page of the thread.........

EoH

[jorel]

Originally posted by Tuning
Sorry I haven't tested your method, It is difficult for my poor brain to undersatnd.
:o

for me is worse, my english is horrible too. gircobain did a great new UpMixGUI here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75445

;)

[Eye of Horus]

Originally posted by jorel
for me is worse, my english is horrible too. gircobain did a great new UpMixGUI here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75445

;)

Don't let language problems keep you from the best results !!!
(I'm not English or American too !!)

EoH

[jorel]

Originally posted by Eye of Horus
Don't let language problems keep you from the best results !!!
(I'm not English or American too !!)

EoH

thanks for support my friend but like i posted for you months ago,i really need a guide for "stups", for me is hard to follow but i can "feel" that the results are amazing! i have your guide saved in hd but for more than i read i'm still confused. in next future you will build a "simple guide for stups"? :o can i have hope? :p

[daphy]

I uploaded this GUI to http://needfulthings.webhop.org

Just to save you traffic ;)

[Eye of Horus]

Originally posted by jorel
thanks for support my friend but like i posted for you months ago,i really need a guide for "stups", for me is hard to follow but i can "feel" that the results are amazing! i have your guide saved in hd but for more than i read i'm still confused. in next future you will build a "simple guide for stups"? :o can i have hope? :p

Yes you can ! It will be published tomorrow. I will publish the address here.......

kind regards,

EoH

[jorel]

Originally posted by Eye of Horus
Yes you can ! It will be published tomorrow. I will publish the address here.......

kind regards,

EoH

great!
(thousands) thank you very much EoH !
i trust that your new guide will help me and lots of people around the world with poor english like mine! :)

[Eye of Horus]

Originally posted by jorel
great!
(thousands) thank you very much EoH !
i trust that your new guide will help me and lots of people around the world with poor english like mine! :)

I hope this one works better for you ;)

http://www.dtsac3forum.digitalzones.com/SAD51Bidule.htm

Good luck and let me know !!

(BTW Friday is the last day before I take a break till the 25th : Vacation !!)

EoH

[trooper11]

ok horus i have a question. when you say 32bit, are you saying our source should be in 32bit wav files? I was using dbpoweramp to rip 16bit wav files form my cds, what should i use to get 32bit? Also, is there a way to set up a batch file for multiple tracks? I saw the besweet batch, but i mean for the bidule part. Thanks.

[jorel]

Originally posted by Eye of Horus
I hope this one works better for you ;)

http://www.dtsac3forum.digitalzones.com/SAD51Bidule.htm

Good luck and let me know !!

(BTW Friday is the last day before I take a break till the 25th : Vacation !!)

EoH

thank you,thank you EoH!
:)

i save the guide and i'm downloading the needed files now. the pictures are very clear and is easy to follow.
...i was trying to send a pm but got this message:
This user's mailbox is currently full, and cannot be sent any messages until it is cleaned out.
please,send a pm to me,i'm thinking in post your guide in more forums,i need details for that!
thanks in advance!
:)

[Eye of Horus]

Originally posted by trooper11
ok horus i have a question. when you say 32bit, are you saying our source should be in 32bit wav files? I was using dbpoweramp to rip 16bit wav files form my cds, what should i use to get 32bit? Also, is there a way to set up a batch file for multiple tracks? I saw the besweet batch, but i mean for the bidule part. Thanks.

Use Soundforge or Cooledit to convert your 16 bits WAV to 32 bits floating....

All experts (I am no expert, only a guy who writes guides and has some ideas, which the experts convert into code for me ;) ) say : use 32 bits.

And you will definitely hear a difference !!!
(don't forget to complete the whole process in 32 bits. Surcode will take them without any problem), but you cannot use WMP for listening in 32 bits ! When you want to listen to for example one of the 6 mono files in 32 bits, you need to load them into Soundforge or Cooledit.

Off for a vacation !!

bye,

EoH

[Eye of Horus]

Originally posted by jorel
thank you,thank you EoH!
:)

i save the guide and i'm downloading the needed files now. the pictures are very clear and is easy to follow.
...i was trying to send a pm but got this message:
This user's mailbox is currently full, and cannot be sent any messages until it is cleaned out.
please,send a pm to me,i'm thinking in post your guide in more forums,i need details for that!
thanks in advance!
:)

No problem ! Post them where you want !!
Want to translate them ? Go ahead !!

I am off now for a vacation .....

TTYL in 2,5 weeks !

kind regards,

EoH

[trooper11]

thanks alot for your help. are there any apps that will rip 32bit wav files from cd tracks?