I need sth like the fill filter but the other way round!

[Dark-Sider9]

Hi,

I got some MPEG2-Raws. Since I recorderd them via DVB, their format is 4:3 but it's letterboxed because the movie originally was cinemascope.

The movie is an older one an the Black letterbox borders are more like dark-grey.

First I tried to corp them away. But when resizing the vid it's anamorph - doh!

Then I looked at the fill filter. I could use now one fill filter for each border but this is lame (since I have to do a lot of those old movies...).

Isn't there any filter like the cropping function but instead of deleting the pixels, overwriting them with a color of your choice, e.g. black?

bye
Darky

[Leuf]

Look more closely at the resize filter, there is an option to expand the frame and letterbox. Though it sounds like you need to adjust the levels of your video.

[Dark-Sider9]

I already looked at this filter.

Just a dumb example: my vid is 400x300. After Croppting it is 400x200.
When I resize it to 640x480 it is anamorph. When turning on the letterbox feature in the resizere there is no effect - except my new vid should be 800x600 with a black border ;-)

Only soulution I found myself: to set the resizer to 400x200 (what actually doesn't resize the movie and perhaps there's some quality loss...) and adding a letterbox of 400x300 and resizing it afterwards again to 640x480. But this is IMHO worse than adding 4 fill filters...

Isn't there any faster way?

bye
Darky

[Guest]

Originally posted by Dark-Sider9
When turning on the letterbox feature in the resizere there is no effect - except my new vid should be 800x600 with a black border ;-) You're doing something wrong then. Turn on letterboxing. Leave the pixel size at 640x480. Set the canvas size to 800x600. Choose your color. Where are you going wrong?

[Dark-Sider9]

But when I'm resizing a 400x200 movie to 640x480 it's anamorph. The 800x600 Letterbox around the movie doesn't fix the aspect ratio - does it? ;-)

bye
Darky

[Guest]

I don't know what you mean by anamorph, but it doesn't matter, because anything you can do with 4 fills, you can also do with the letterboxing.

[Dark-Sider9]

Anamorph (i thought this word exists in the english vocabularry .. ;-)) means, not keeping the Aspect ratio...

400x200 has an Aspec ratio of 2:1 - 800x600 has 4:3. So faces will look strange etc.

The built in resizer in vdub extends (or shrinks) the width and height without keeping aspect ratios. To get a propper result I had to set the resizer to: 800x400 and adding a letterbox of 800x600.

But I do not want to calculate propper aspect ratios every singel encode...

You say everything I can do with fill, I can do with the letterbox thing... then just tell me how.

bye
Darky

[Guest]

You started the thread by saying that you had a video at 400x300 and after cropping the letterboxing, you get 400x200. You wanted to instead of cropping, make the letterbox areas black. I don't see where the 640x480 resizing comes in.

To do what you asked, make a null transform filter and crop off the borders. Then readd them back with a resize filter set for size 400x200 and letterbox canvas area 400x300. This will not produce any quality loss. This achieves what you asked for.

[Dark-Sider9]

Yes, there you are right. But this way I would have to adjust the cropping area and the resizer each time.

If there was somehow an inverted fill filter, I only had to adjust one filter. I really have to do a lot of vids...

bye
Darky