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Midnight Tboy
6th July 2003, 05:05
hey there,

have been getting used to authoring my own dvd-rs pretty successfully over the last week or so, from existing, and newly converted CVD resolution rips, to get 2-3 movies per dvd. As I've been going on I've been trying to learn and try out the occasional new things from the old svcds/cvds I used to make, for example, using ac3 audio, ripping real selectable subs etc, so that I can learn slowly more that I can potentially do.

My next challenge I'm wondering at how I'm going to go about doing, is kind of a in-joke I want to play on a mate who asked me to do him a dvd that I'm preparing for myself now. What it is, is whenever we end up out somewhere, I always end up managing to steal a camera shot and pop my head up in the exact corner with a huge grin on face, very much like the Toastie popping up all time on old mortal kombat games, on other ppls cameras and find them weeks or months later from nights out (ok so a crap joke - but it makes us laugh :P)

What I'd like to do, is take one of these photes, remove the rest of the picture so I'm left with the blank transparant white canvas and just me popping up in the corner on it, thumbs risen. Then to be able to create a dvd, where at the touch of a button, be it the angle or subtitle button, it will show that picture up on the corner of the screen, but still keeping the film showing behind that picture if u get what I mean?

Am guessing that it probably can't be done via subtitles as they have only several colours to their pallette I believe, so am guessing that it must somehow be done with multi-angles....just I have no idea about how to go about using these multiangles, and how to set it to overlay rather than replace entire video. surely this is do-able, as am thinking of dvds such as Mallrats region 1 dvd, where u can press the angle button, and in would pop a video within a video of the crew talking. I hope this is the case.

I hope someone can point me in the right direction of achieving this,
thanks loads in advance,

Tuck

Eyes`Only
6th July 2003, 09:00
that angle effect you see with Mallrats is an illusion. If you demux that DVD you will see that one angle is the video without the Picture in Picture video in the corner, and the other is the video with the PIP effect. There is no way to put a video on top of another video by any 'special trick'. The only way you are going to manage this is to use a video editing app (After Effects, etc.) and adding a video or still shot into several frames of the existing video.

As for subtitles, you are limited to 4 colors, so unless you can make a 2-bit image of yourself that you want to use, it isn't a viable option.

Midnight Tboy
6th July 2003, 15:13
doh, shame that it aint as simple as that then - damn I wish I was an 8bit NES charachter :P

cheers for the help, a lil laters then I'll look at using after effects when I'm a bit more efficient at it, as haven't used that app for a good few years now,

thanks for letting me know,
Tuck

Arky
7th July 2003, 15:01
What NLE do you use, Midnight Tboy?


Arky ;o)

Midnight Tboy
8th July 2003, 06:12
Arky.....NLE? what's that? forgive me if I'm being a bit thick today, but brain istn't fully functional, as its 6:11am here at mo :P

Tuck

Arky
8th July 2003, 11:25
NLE = Non Linear Editor

So what I meant was "what program do you use for editing your video files?"

e.g Adobe Premiere, Pinnacle Studio/Edition, Ulead Media Studio Pro etc etc.

The reason I asked is because many NLEs these days have basic compositing capabilities already integrated. Having said that, many of these integrated compositing features are not advanced enough to do what you need.

All I can say is that if you tell me what you use, I will try to offer you some suggestions as to how to achieve what you require, provided it is possible within your existing NLE. Otherwise, After Effects, Combustion, Pinnacle Commotion, or Boris FX, may be your best option (cost notwithstanding!).

Regards,


Arky ;o)

Midnight Tboy
8th July 2003, 11:52
heh, silly me, I shouldve known that one after all this time. Mind, its nearly 12 noon now and I'm still up...eek. head is spinning somewhat, so shower and bed call soon

thanks for the offer of the help, luckily you dont need to though, as I've used several over the past few yrs with university, and own most of them, so should be pretty straightforward....only has been a year or so since I last had need to load one up and use it.

My favourite preference tho was NothingReal Shake for compositing, and then Combustion 2, ( I wish they'd bring Softimage Eddie for the pc!!) I've got after effects too although admittedly I could never get used to it. dont know why, just didn't like the whole adobe layout of it, (and prob just me having been snobbish after using the more industry standard ones ;))

I think once I've caught up on this backlog of encodes I've got to do (and need to reorder some more discs!damn!), then I'll get one of them installed (am hoping that they can take CVD resolution mpeg-2 videos as input - never tried any non-captured/rendered footage avi in them) and have a tinker about. No doubt I'll be lazy and never get round to it though, was just a novel idea I wanted to stick onto some discs to wind my mates up....shame though, as would have been pretty good to have been able to insert easily, selectable photographs overlaying the main video etc...for example, a holiday footage video, popping up in corner the snapshots taken there as a kind of sideshow at bottom of the screen, without need for rerendering the entire selected videos.

thanks for all ya help guys,
Tuck

Mach10
9th July 2003, 16:53
you could stick your face in some spot in this movie of yours with Vegas Video 4 ... it will be permanent.

Load the one you have ... and drap your face [on another video] into the spot where you want to appear.

Does this make sense. Vegas Video uses alot of drap and drop.

Eyes`Only
9th July 2003, 16:55
yeah I don't think the issue is how to superimpose images/video at this point, he just thought you could create an overlay of video, similar to a subtitle track but with lifelike color.