HPG 1.1.3 Unrealeased

[TFC]

HPG 1.1.2 Realeased:

Changelog:
The main change in this version, is the new name and the new logo, in order to feet Helix™ community licenses. Also a new site adress.

- Added support for AC3 input files using AC3 filter
- Added support for Job file creation with AC3 file for video muxing
- Added support for vorbis audiences for Job file creation.
- Added Helix™ Producer Milestone 6.
- Added new system to activate EHQ (normal, high, very-high...)
- Added possibility to save, load or reset Audience generator settings

- Fixed a little bug that display the wrong message box in audience generator.

You maybe have noticed that the site crashed down.
It'll take a little time to have screenshots and changelog back...

You can download this new version of HPG HERE (http://rv6.team.free.fr/binaries/HPG112.zip)

The new site address is: http://hel-xproducergui.fr.st


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[karl_lillevold]

Very nice GUI for general job setup and audience editing! If you have not tried it already, please do. I also really like the AviSynth script generator, with accurate aspect ratio and resize information.

[TFC]

Hey
In order to implement Anamorphic resize, i need to know all dvd format, i find three:
2.35:1
1.85:1
1.33:1
Is there a 4th one? What is it?

Thx for answers

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[kilg0r3]

Depending how people crop into the image area these standard values will not work. Instead, they will have to calculate them by hand. (A calculator!)

BTW if you allow to resize by producer instead of avisynth, you already supprot anamorphic resizing. When one selects a larger resolution than that of the source. Producer will NOT resize but add an aspect-ratio flag value.

Thanx for your nice program!

[TFC]

No need to calculate by hand :)
That's why i need to know those format....Is there a 4th one?

I've made some test and even with crop the producer resize keeps aspect ratio :)

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[kilg0r3]

Depending on how I crop my image, I simply need another aspect ratio than those usual ones. :)

[TFC]

Ok the 4th one is 1.78:1 :)
That works well, no matter the crop u put :)
Let me finish the V0.4 and test :)

[Wilbert]

You have many more of them! One is (about) 2.15:1 for example. There's a webpage listing the AR's of many movies, although I don't have the link any more.

[kilg0r3]

how's resizing currently done with your tool? Does it use avisynth or producer to resize?

[TFC]

U can use both, there's a complete avisynth script generator with now accurate aspect ratio etc.... :)
But if u'd like to use anamorphic resize u can for sure :)
Let me finish this version that will include:
- Audio multi channels
- Video dropdupe
- Anamorphic resize
- And this resize part i tell about

I'll make a tutor too, just need a little time to finish ;)

[TFC]

That's it HPG 1.0 is out :D :D
http://helixproducergui.fr.st
with many more options like multi-channel, dropdupe etc....
Take a look and try :D

[phrentec]

HelixproducerGUI (HPG) is a great GUI for producer.exe. it even as moderate interaction with and support for avisynth scripts. definitely worth using if you encode videos to realvideo and especially since RV9-EHQ is out. I'm still wondering why use Helix? Producer Basic or buy Helix? Producer Plus when you have HelixproducerGUI by TFC for free and with almost no limitations.

:o

Good job TFC!

for more on the development on HPG visit the helixcommunity irc | irc.helixcommuinty.org #helix

[TFC]

Thx Phrentec nice that u like HPG :D
Plz don't give direct links coz i want ppl to read all stuff thay have to read ;)

Feel free to let a post in the forum of HPG :)

[31 Flavas]

Originally posted by phrentec

I'm still wondering why use Helix? Producer Basic or buy Helix? Producer Plus when you have HelixproducerGUI by TFC for free and with almost no limitations. Heh, even though we have been using EHQ and dropdupe for what may seem like... forever... Remember that these are still exteamly new capabilites. I'm sure that only a handful of people outside of this forum, know or even care that these capailites exist. Helix Producer Pro GUI, just hasn't been updated yet.

Why use Helix GUI or buy it for that matter? I'm not intending to step on anyones toes here, but IMO Helix Producer Pro GUI is more polished, usable, and less error prone. How many of the user created GUI's can do live encoding, capture from a video card, or for that matter accept any input other than .d2v, .avs, or .wav? My point isn't that the user created GUI's are limited in their fuctionality, but rather targeted to the needs of the readers of this forum. Likewise, Real's target audience is everyone, not just us dvd ripping junkies :)

$200 for Helix GUI is extreamly modest, from that view point. But for us dvd rippers, who don't need a lot of the features, its an unnessary expense.

Keep up the good work TFC, Sirber, Dark cracker, et all... :)

[superdump]

Just a small "bug" I've noticed. In the bitrate calculation window, when the bitrate is calculated it is displayed as bits per second and then inserted into the xml project thingy as kilobits per second.

Thanks :)

[TFC]

Maybe u want to say that it's calculated in Kb/s and inserted in Audience file as b/s ;)
That's not a bug that's normal :D

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[Kb_cruncher]

By far the best rv9 gui i have used so far,great job TFC.If you could consider adding end credit function it would be perfect:D

[GoWaN]

Could it be added a zip without the realproducer please?

[TFC]

hmmm...
Send me a mail Gowan :)

[Synaps]

TFC you have a problem with your forum :confused:, i can't accede it

[kilg0r3]

Originally posted by GoWaN
Could it be added a zip without the realproducer please?

dito

[TFC]

@Synaps
No particular problems with the forum....Checks your cookies parameters....

@Gowan & Kilgor3
HPG need some directories and some files that are included in archive...

[superdump]

TFC: is your website down? I can't seem to get onto it. :S

EDIT: Never mind. It's working now. :)

[GoWaN]

I like this gui a lot, but it lacks a couple of important features for me like job queue and shutdown PC when finish.

[Synaps]

ouep Gowan, shutdown is great, me to i hope in a future release ! ;)

[TFC]

No shutdown in future realease, but job queue ;)
soon :)

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[TFC]

HPG 1.1 Realeased:

Dowload it here (http://rv6.team.free.fr/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3)

Screenshots (http://rv6.team.free.fr/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8)

Changelog (http://rv6.team.free.fr/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4)

Hope u'll like it :D

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[TFC]

Added new preview system that let you directly view crop and resize changing in preview window at frame you selected.

I made a patch to update HPG 1.1 :
Download HPG 1.1 Preview Update patch (http://rv6.team.free.fr/binaries/HPG11_UpPatch.zip)


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[TFC]

Don't be shy to tell what u think :D

[TFC]

I've just found a little bug in job file creation part....End tags are not written to the file :angry:

I'm really sorry for inconvenients :( :( :(
So plz download the patch again (if you haven't allready did, do it :D) the problem now solve.....Really sorry.

The patch have to be apllied on original HPG 1.1 exe, it will have the preview update + this bug fixed

Download HPG 1.1 Patch (http://rv6.team.free.fr/binaries/HPG11_UpPatch.zip)


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[TFC]

Remade an archive with the patched executable, updated screenshots and Changelog pages ;)

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[kilg0r3]

Hi TFC,

just wanted to let you know that I am very interested in using your programm. It is just that I currently have really no time at all to encode movies. :(

the rest of the bunch seems to be on vacation :)

[TFC]

Nop take your time :D
Vacation....mmh that word sounds beautifull :D :D :D

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[kilg0r3]

vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation vacation

at your service :D

[TFC]

LOL:D :D

soon for me :cool:

[SeeMoreDigital]

I think the sun's getting to you guys already!

Can I ask how you get the preview window to work? Me thinks the holiday bug has infected me too!

[Sirber]

Soon for me too, but here it's raining like hell :devil:

http://www.meteomedia.ca/Meteo/Villes/can/Pages/CAQC0441.htm

*** Sorry for OT :D ***

[TFC]

mmhh you can open the preview window by clicking on the button that is right on the Black cross' left, you can also use "tooltip text" that will show u "preview" when u let your mouse over the button ;)

For sure all this in Avisynth scripts generator :D

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[multicone]

Job Name Category Functional Area Timestamp MessageID Message
,Error,Command Line,2003/08/06 22:55:45,10503,You must specify one or more audience(s)
PID1508,Informational,Command Line,2003/08/06 22:57:30,10529,Preparing to encode file "V:\matrixTrailer\matrixflux5_7.AVS" to file "V:\matrixTrailer\matrixRV9.rmvb"
PID1508,Informational,SDK Encoding,2003/08/06 22:57:30,15000,Starting encode
PID1508,Warning,SDK Encoding,2003/08/06 22:57:30,0,Skipping audio prefilter because there is no audio input or disableAudio is true.
PID1508,Informational,SDK Encoding,2003/08/06 22:57:30,15004,Starting analysis pass
PID1508,Error,SDK Encoding,2003/08/06 22:57:30,15001,Job failed to start encoding
PID1508,Error,Command Line,2003/08/06 22:57:30,10532,Encoding failed!


Is it not allowed having source files and target files on network drive ? Same AVS script is working fine in VdubMod, but does not contain audio. First is complained it need an 'audience file' so i select one, but AVS contains no audio, only video. So i ticked 'disable audio', but still the GUI requests audience file ?

[31 Flavas]

Originally posted by multicone
Is it not allowed having source files and target files on network drive ? Same AVS script is working fine in VdubMod, but does not contain audio. First is complained it need an 'audience file' so i select one, but AVS contains no audio, only video. So i ticked 'disable audio', but still the GUI requests audience file ? I think you need to use a HPG1.1 produced audience, if you use HPG. At least I seem to recall TFC saying that at some point.

[TFC]

Well, you got this error from a job file encoding isn'it?
Maybe you don't create your audience with HPG...If you wish to create a Job file with HPG, you have to use an audience file created with it!

For a video only encoding:
you can create a video only avs script without selecting any wav file, set your audience as a "audio-video" audience (set in presentation type), then create your job file using audience you just made.
"Ctrl + J" or "File >> Encode Job file", select the job file you just created.cross your fingers :D.Press yes

Like this you can set two (or more) more job with "audio only" and select a wav as input file and real media file as output, Open the batch Job file encoding part ("Ctrl + B" or "Tools >> Batch Job file encoding", select your job files in order you wish to encode them, start encoding :)

EDIT: Job file creation not yet compatible with ogg and lossless audiences.Will be in next realease :)

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[multicone]

Originally posted by TFC
Well, you got this error from a job file encoding isn'it?
Maybe you don't create your audience with HPG...If you wish to create a Job file with HPG, you have to use an audience file created with it!

No. I was wanting to test RV9 encoding, as now i can mux in MKV, to compare with XviD. I opened same AVS as i was using in VdubMod before for XviD 2 pass encoding.

For a video only encoding:
you can create a video only avs script without selecting any wav file, set your audience as a "audio-video" audience (set in presentation type), then create your job file using audience you just made.
"Ctrl + J" or "File >> Encode Job file", select the job file you just created.cross your fingers :D.Press yes

Can i not use existing AVS ? Must make new AVS with HPG for testing ?

Like this you can set two (or more) more job with "audio only" and select a wav as input file and real media file as output, Open the batch Job file encoding part ("Ctrl + B" or "Tools >> Batch Job file encoding", select your job files in order you wish to encode them, start encoding :)
EDIT: Job file creation not yet compatible with ogg and lossless audiences.Will be in next realease :)
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Sorry, i dont understand ... i want to mux Ogg Vorbis into RV9 MKV later with Dark-Cracker matroska muxer tool, so i dont need any audio.

[TFC]

For sure you can use your own avs, but you have to set your audience!

Sorry, i dont understand ... i want to mux Ogg Vorbis into RV9 MKV later with Dark-Cracker matroska muxer tool, so i dont need any audio.

That was just an example :), you can also encode your ogg files with HPG if you want ;)

[multicone]

Originally posted by TFC For sure you can use your own avs, but you have to set your audience!

This is what i do, and resulted in above error message :

input file : my AVS
output file : matrixtrailer.rmvb
audience : Vorbis 56k Dial-up Audio.rpad

The i go : 'start encoding'
It makes no difference if i tick 'disable audio' or not, encoding window starts, than stops after few seconds.


That was just an example :), you can also encode your ogg files with HPG if you want ;) [/B]

I will use BeSweet for this, for normalizing, resampling etc ....

[multicone]

Latest log with other AVS script :

Job Name Category Functional Area Timestamp MessageID Message
,Error,Command Line,2003/08/07 08:35:56,10503,You must specify one or more audience(s)
PID1908,Warning,File Reader,2003/08/07 12:20:06,8104,Failed to Render File, V:\matrixTrailer\matrix.avs, with DirectShow Reader. Check for available codec.
PID1908,Warning,File Reader,2003/08/07 12:20:06,8107,Neither uncompressed audio or video was available in DirectShow Reader
PID1908,Error,File Reader,2003/08/07 12:20:06,8406,Failed to load QuickTime libraries. QuickTime 5 or later is required.
PID1908,Informational,File Reader,2003/08/07 12:20:06,8212,Missing RIFF header. V:\matrixTrailer\matrix.avs is not a valid AVI file.
PID1908,Error,File Reader,2003/08/07 12:20:06,8322,Unexpected file format, V:\matrixTrailer\matrix.avs may be a flat file.
PID1908,Error,SDK Configuration,2003/08/07 12:20:06,0,Failure to load reader for file V:\matrixTrailer\matrix.avs
PID1908,Error,SDK Configuration,2003/08/07 12:20:06,0,Unable to initialize input
PID1908,Error,Command Line,2003/08/07 12:20:06,10525,Failed to initialize inputs


EDIT : Hmmm .. this is maybe my fault, not HPG. I did not test this script with VdubMod. File was MOV file originally, sorry ..

[TFC]

audience : Vorbis 56k Dial-up Audio.rpad
This is a premade audience not the one you set!!!!!!! this couldn't fit for your encode!!

To encode from a mov file, u need quicktime codecs....

[multicone]

Sorry, i have not understood what audience file is :( ...

Now i have made my own audience file with the 'audience generator', setting 'presentation type' to 'audio - video', 'RV9' as video codec and 'VBRbitrate'. Other settings are :

4000
500
100
60
25
100
EHQ 85
and loss protection 'enabled'

Audio is set to 'music', 'stereo', '96 kbps-RA8'

and i saved it with a new name and load it into the GUI.

The original source was MOV file, but its a AVI file now, with WAV PCM sound and DV compressed video. AVS loads good in Virtualdub, works perfect, with WinDV codec installed ( it shows in Virtualdub for compression also ).

This time error is :

PID1132,Warning,File Reader,2003/08/07 19:21:36,8104,Failed to Render File, V:\matrixTrailer\matrixflux5_7.AVS, with DirectShow Reader. Check for available codec.
PID1132,Warning,File Reader,2003/08/07 19:21:36,8107,Neither uncompressed audio or video was available in DirectShow Reader
PID1132,Error,File Reader,2003/08/07 19:21:36,8406,Failed to load QuickTime libraries. QuickTime 5 or later is required.
PID1132,Informational,File Reader,2003/08/07 19:21:36,8212,Missing RIFF header. V:\matrixTrailer\matrixflux5_7.AVS is not a valid AVI file.
PID1132,Error,File Reader,2003/08/07 19:21:36,8322,Unexpected file format, V:\matrixTrailer\matrixflux5_7.AVS may be a flat file.
PID1132,Error,SDK Configuration,2003/08/07 19:21:36,0,Failure to load reader for file V:\matrixTrailer\matrixflux5_7.AVS
PID1132,Error,SDK Configuration,2003/08/07 19:21:36,0,Unable to initialize input
PID1132,Error,Command Line,2003/08/07 19:21:36,10525,Failed to initialize inputs


Maybe your AVS scripts need to use DirectShow ?

[TFC]

Well it seems that the producer don't like your file....
Maybe it comes from the AVI file....don't know why...
Wich codec do u use to encode your AVI?

[multicone]

Do producer expect certain colour space on input ?

[TFC]

Mmh producer doesn't support less than 24b color, i'm not really sure, Karll could answer for sure.
its a AVI file now, with WAV PCM sound and DV compressed video
Did you try to encode your file without the sound? only the video without any audio stream in....
Think you have to make some more test :rolleyes:

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[multicone]

Originally posted by TFC Did you try to encode your file without the sound? only the video without any audio stream in....
Think you have to make some more test :rolleyes:++TFC

no problem, glad i can help :)

Here is the output of a new AVS, using new AVI without PCM audio, just video :

PID1132,Warning,File Reader,2003/08/07 22:59:48,8104,Failed to Render File, V:\matrixTrailer\matrixnoaudioavi.avs, with DirectShow Reader. Check for available codec.
PID1132,Warning,File Reader,2003/08/07 22:59:48,8107,Neither uncompressed audio or video was available in DirectShow Reader
PID1132,Error,File Reader,2003/08/07 22:59:48,8406,Failed to load QuickTime libraries. QuickTime 5 or later is required.
PID1132,Informational,File Reader,2003/08/07 22:59:48,8212,Missing RIFF header. V:\matrixTrailer\matrixnoaudioavi.avs is not a valid AVI file.
PID1132,Error,File Reader,2003/08/07 22:59:48,8322,Unexpected file format, V:\matrixTrailer\matrixnoaudioavi.avs may be a flat file.
PID1132,Error,SDK Configuration,2003/08/07 22:59:48,0,Failure to load reader for file V:\matrixTrailer\matrixnoaudioavi.avs
PID1132,Error,SDK Configuration,2003/08/07 22:59:48,0,Unable to initialize input
PID1132,Error,Command Line,2003/08/07 22:59:48,10525,Failed to initialize inputs

[multicone]

Checked another AVS that was on my harddisk still, and also load fine in Virtualdub :

PID2024,Warning,File Reader,2003/08/07 23:03:18,8104,Failed to Render File, V:\starwars\starwars-696x288.avs, with DirectShow Reader. Check for available codec.
PID2024,Warning,File Reader,2003/08/07 23:03:18,8107,Neither uncompressed audio or video was available in DirectShow Reader
PID2024,Error,File Reader,2003/08/07 23:03:18,8406,Failed to load QuickTime libraries. QuickTime 5 or later is required.
PID2024,Informational,File Reader,2003/08/07 23:03:18,8212,Missing RIFF header. V:\starwars\starwars-696x288.avs is not a valid AVI file.
PID2024,Error,File Reader,2003/08/07 23:03:18,8322,Unexpected file format, V:\starwars\starwars-696x288.avs may be a flat file.
PID2024,Error,SDK Configuration,2003/08/07 23:03:18,0,Failure to load reader for file V:\starwars\starwars-696x288.avs
PID2024,Error,SDK Configuration,2003/08/07 23:03:18,0,Unable to initialize input
PID2024,Error,Command Line,2003/08/07 23:03:18,10525,Failed to initialize inputs

Same problem :(

Is a special version of Avisynth required ? I have the one coming with latest Gordian Knot ? Do i have to add a special line to my scripts, to convert color space ?

[karl_lillevold]

@multicone: Producer can usually encode anything that can be played in a DirectShow player, so I don't know what's wrong here. I have seen it fail for 8bit colordepth files, maybe it's a similar problem here. I am going to send you a URL where perhaps you can upload a sample so I can take a look. The sample would be just a few frames cut from the AVI in VirtualDub, and using Direct Stream Copy + the edited AVS file to use the short AVI sample. Make sure you can reproduce the problem with the short sample before uploading.

[multicone]

Originally posted by karl_lillevold @multicone: Producer can usually encode anything that can be played in a DirectShow player

So this is maybe the problem ? I dont have DShow filters installed for DV compression, WinDV is codec for Virtualdub ? I tried to play the sample in Windows Mediaplayer and TCMP, but only the first picture of the sample is shown, then screen is only black, while time is running.

But in Virtualdub, if i open AVS, it will load fine and i can see all pictures ?

The complete sample file is about 570 MB and is 3 minutes long, without audio its still 530 MB as video is not really well compressed ( DV codec, FourCC ' dvsd' ). How big file can i upload to your URL ?

[karl_lillevold]

i am sure the problem is related to DV, but DirectShow contains a wrapper for VFW, so it should work, I think, but the fact that it does not play in a DShow player is an indication your DV codec is not DShow compatible, or perhaps Windows picks up the wrong DV codec. I don't have much experience with DV, but I think there are alternative codecs available... Anyone?

570 MB would take too long to upload, but if you could use VirtualDub 'Direct stream copy' to copy a hundred frames or so, and reference this shorter sample in the AVS script, that would be really helpful. Direct stream copy is important to preserve the format of the AVI file. You can send e-mail if you have any questions regarding the procedure for making a short sample.

[karl_lillevold]

so even though your AVI is not completely uploaded yet, I tried to install the DV codec (Adaptec? WinSoft?), and extract just a short segment, but I am afraid the DV codec completely messed up my system. Just accessing the AVI file, or opening it in MPC, would lock up explorer forcing a reboot. I am afraid this codec has some serious issues, maybe it's dual CPU and threading related, maybe it's DirectShow related, but there's not much that can be done. I had to reboot 4-5 times trying this out, and then use WinXP System Restore to get back to a good state. I am not going to install these codecs again.

I think the best solution is for you to convert your AVI to another format and use this as input to Producer. You can use VirtualDub to convert, I would suggest to convert to I420 using the Helix YUV codecs (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56972). Install codecs, choose I420 as Compression in VirtualDub, and "Save As..." in VirtualDub. Or you can use HuffYUV 2.1.1, to save some space, but encoding will take longer.

[multicone]

Thanks Karl for your help, the 530 MB DV compressed version is now uploaded. I was installing a new DV codec now, the free version from Panasonic ( will send to you also for testing ). Now i can see the movie fine in WindowsMediaplayer :) . As you told me, i opened it in Virtualdub and converted into a HuffYuv movie, it turned out to be 3x bigger ( about 1.5 GB ) then the DV compressed, but still perfect picture quality.

But when i try to play the HuffYuv compressed movie in WindowsMediaplayer, its all strange colours ? Can one not play HuffYuv compressed movies in Mediaplayer ? Also trying to load this 1.5 GB movie into HPG with a new avisynth script failed, of course.

Then i made something different :

I was loading the DV compressed movie into Virtualdub again and converted into a XviD AVI with constant quantizer 1. File size was greatly compressed, down to 80 MB ( original MOV was 100 MB ), but picture looks very bad, a lot of blocks, i guess because of the very high resolution ( 1000 x 540 pixels ), maybe XviD dont like.

However, this movie looks bad but plays perfectly in all players, even at very high resolution ( this is source movie, before resizing ). Now i was trying to load into HPG, first with the following AVS script :


avisource("matrixnoaudio-XvidQ1.avi")
LanczosResize(640,432)

PID2004,Warning,File Reader,2003/08/09 08:37:39,8104,Failed to Render File, V:\matrixTrailer\matrixnoaudio-XvidQ1.avs, with DirectShow Reader. Check for available codec.
PID2004,Warning,File Reader,2003/08/09 08:37:39,8107,Neither uncompressed audio or video was available in DirectShow Reader
PID2004,Error,File Reader,2003/08/09 08:37:39,8406,Failed to load QuickTime libraries. QuickTime 5 or later is required.
PID2004,Informational,File Reader,2003/08/09 08:37:39,8212,Missing RIFF header. V:\matrixTrailer\matrixnoaudio-XvidQ1.avs is not a valid AVI file.
PID2004,Error,File Reader,2003/08/09 08:37:39,8322,Unexpected file format, V:\matrixTrailer\matrixnoaudio-XvidQ1.avs may be a flat file.
PID2004,Error,SDK Configuration,2003/08/09 08:37:39,0,Failure to load reader for file V:\matrixTrailer\matrixnoaudio-XvidQ1.avs
PID2004,Error,SDK Configuration,2003/08/09 08:37:39,0,Unable to initialize input
PID2004,Error,Command Line,2003/08/09 08:37:39,10525,Failed to initialize inputs



Then with another AVS script :

DirectShowSource("matrixnoaudio-XvidQ1.avi")
LanczosResize(640,432)

PID2076,Warning,File Reader,2003/08/09 08:38:53,8104,Failed to Render File, V:\matrixTrailer\matrixnoaudio-XvidQ1.avs, with DirectShow Reader. Check for available codec.
PID2076,Warning,File Reader,2003/08/09 08:38:53,8107,Neither uncompressed audio or video was available in DirectShow Reader
PID2076,Error,File Reader,2003/08/09 08:38:53,8406,Failed to load QuickTime libraries. QuickTime 5 or later is required.
PID2076,Informational,File Reader,2003/08/09 08:38:53,8212,Missing RIFF header. V:\matrixTrailer\matrixnoaudio-XvidQ1.avs is not a valid AVI file.
PID2076,Error,File Reader,2003/08/09 08:38:53,8322,Unexpected file format, V:\matrixTrailer\matrixnoaudio-XvidQ1.avs may be a flat file.
PID2076,Error,SDK Configuration,2003/08/09 08:38:53,0,Failure to load reader for file V:\matrixTrailer\matrixnoaudio-XvidQ1.avs


Again, both AVS script load fine in Virtualdub.

What more can i do :( ? Producer only allow certain resolution and colour space ? Why do all my AVS scripts load fine in Virtualdub, but not in producer with HPG ?


@ Karl : I will upload the 80 MB Xvid compressed AVI to your FTP also, ok ? It plays fine in Mediaplayer with ffdshow, so why cant i load in producer ?

[31 Flavas]

Originally posted by multicone

But when i try to play the HuffYuv compressed movie in WindowsMediaplayer, its all strange colours ? Can one not play HuffYuv compressed movies in Mediaplayer ? Also trying to load this 1.5 GB movie into HPG with a new avisynth script failed, of course. I'm no videophile (i just dvd rips, nothing else), but I think I can clear up at least one thing here.

YUV != RGB (RGB, (Red Green Blue), is what your monitor projects)

I don't know how to expain YUV, except it is used to save diskspace (kind of like any codec), but AFAIK, it is more similar to, if not, lossless. So if you playback YUV video without converting it back to RGB video, you get the bandy freaky strange colors you got. This explains the strange colors you got in Mediaplayer. No codec has been used so no YUV->RGB conversion is happening. (Saving the YUV->RGB conversion until the codec plays the video is what decreases encode time)

Dunno, about the avs script issues though. I would think you should just have raw YUV video at his point (video that Producer understands). But, maybe you need to load HuffYUV in the avs script to decode the video for Producer? I don't know. Like I said, I only do dvd rips, quite litteraly nothing else :)

[superdump]

YUV is basically the three components of images in a different way to RGB. Y is the luminance (i.e. how bright/dark the pixel is) and U and V are the chrominance values (one is the red-green value and the other is blue-yellow, again IIRC).

It should be the job of the decoder to convert from whatever YUV format is coded into the bitstream of the video and output whatever format is required, I believe.

EDIT: Me being VERY stupid.

[karl_lillevold]

@multicone: this alternative DV codec appears to behave itself much better. I can now encode your DV source file without any problems, as well as your XviD version of same. Something must be not working correctly on your system in terms of how Producer reads files.

Looking at your error messages, it almost looks like Producer can not find its tools directory, where all the DLLs for file reading (incl DirectShow) are supposed to reside. Maybe producer got unpacked without its directory structure.. Could you check that there are sub-folders in the Producer directory. There should be a few, 'tools' and 'codecs' are two examples. 'audiences' another example.

If this is not the problem, could you create an empty file called debug.txt in Producer's directory, then retry the encoding, pipe the text output to a file, and send this to my e-mail (as I gave in PM)? Make sure the debug output contains a lot more information than before. Hopefully this will say something about what the problem is.

[multicone]

Originally posted by karl_lillevold
If this is not the problem, could you create an empty file called debug.txt in Producer's directory, then retry the encoding, pipe the text output to a file, and send this to my e-mail (as I gave in PM)? Make sure the debug output contains a lot more information than before. Hopefully this will say something about what the problem is.

I did this and tried several times again with different AVS scripts, but producer will not write anything into debug.txt . Do i have to make a setting somewhere so debug.txt is written ?
All the folders are there as you say, but i estimate that HPG will extract producer incorrect on installation, so producer dont know its homedirectory ?

TFC ?

[karl_lillevold]

Producer does not write anything into debug.txt, but having an empty file in the producer directory, causes producer to output much more information to stdout when it is run. This is the information I need to see. Thanks. However, I do think the problem is something relatively simple, but resulting in Producer not being able to load its required tools DLLs.

[TFC]

HPG 1.1.2 Realeased:

Changelog:
The main change in this version, is the new name and the new logo, in order to feet Helix™ community licenses. Also a new site adress.

- Added support for AC3 input files using AC3 filter
- Added support for Job file creation with AC3 file for video muxing
- Added support for vorbis audiences for Job file creation.
- Added Helix™ Producer Milestone 6.
- Added new system to activate EHQ (normal, high, very-high...)

- Fixed a little bug that display the wrong message box in audience generator.

You maybe have noticed that the site crashed down.
It'll take a little time to have screenshots and changelog back...

You can download this new version of HPG HERE (http://rv6.team.free.fr/binaries/HPG112.zip)

The new site address is: http://hel-xproducergui.fr.st


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[SeeMoreDigital]

Thanks TFC

Sorry to hear you had problems with your server!

Cheers

[TFC]

I forgot this in changelog :D

- Added possibility to save, load or reset Audience generator settings

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[TFC]

I find some issues between AC3Filter and OggDS.dll, if the OggDS.dll present and registered, the producer won't be abble to open AC3 files...
The only solution i find is to unreg OggDS.dll, delete it and reboot...

Don't know yet if there's another solution :(

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[TFC]

Ok the problem didn't come from OggDS.dll, it comes in fact from VSfilter.dll (Don't ask me why :rolleyes: )
So just unreg VSfilter.dll to make the Producer open AC3 files

I updated the archive with OggDS.dll (If installed separately, producer cannot encode in vorbis anymore...) and a bug fixed version of HPG that u can download HERE (http://rv6.team.free.fr/binaries/HPG112.zip)

If you have allready downloaded it and don't want to redownload it, you can get this little Patch (http://rv6.team.free.fr/binaries/HPG112_BugFixPatch.zip)

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[31 Flavas]

I just tried encoding again using HPG 1.1.2, I looked at the HPG produced audience and job file and noticed they are missing custom packet size tag. I added these in manually and told HPG to encode, but now I get the fatal error messaage in Producer Log:

Unable to set uncrecognized property customPacketSize of type uint on video codec

This is the line i'm using in both the audience and job file.

<customPacketSize type="uint">16000</customPacketSize>

Why is Producer barfing at me?

Thanks.

[karl_lillevold]

@31 Flavas: the customPacketSize codec property is no longer needed in the latest Producer, because it is set to 15,000 automatically for high bitrate VBR streams. If you would still like to set it, this will still work, but remember to place it inside the codecProperties tag:

<codecProperties type="bag">
<customPacketSize type="uint">16000</customPacketSize>
</codecProperties>

[31 Flavas]

Ok!

The reason why I asked was because on the window that pops up it says "setting video packet size to 1352" as the last line and just before the Analysis x% Errors: etc ... line. But, you know i've never actually noticed that line till just now...

I'll take your word that it is not something that needs to be set, though :)

[karl_lillevold]

if it says it is setting it to 1352, it does need to be set manually, since it should have said 15000. Is there not an option in HPG for packet size? Maybe your encoding is not at a high enough bitrate to trigger this large packet size. I am on vacation in Norway, so I can't check right away, but I seem to recall we chose around 450 kbps or so, assuming anything below this was likely to be targeted for streaming.

[31 Flavas]

@karl

Yes, this looks to be the problem. I tacked a zero on the end of the avg+max bitrate and it now says 15000.

I must have not been over the barrier. I had 475k total bitrate and 64k audio. So the video was ~~410k -ish.

@TFC

Ok, spill it :) How can I set video packet size manually :) Producer barfs if manually type (or cut&paste) in the code.

I can't really edit the audience or job file period. If for example I want to set EHQ by number in either, even with every thing correct. Producer will still bailout telling me it can't set unknown property or some such text.

[TFC]

I just tried encoding again using HPG 1.1.2, I looked at the HPG produced audience and job file and noticed they are missing custom packet size tag.

Well u can edit your audience manually, but won't be abble to create a job file....Wait for the next version, that will have some new audiences options (like the custom packet size, ehq 100 etc...)I've some hard drive pb so let me change it :( )

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[31 Flavas]

Actually I worked this out with Karl by PM.

To use the packet size option i need to surround it with a <codec properties> tag. And I wasn't. And the bit about making equivlant changes to the EHQ also needed this.

I though I was soooo smart catching the encoder/ing difference and the uint/string change, but as it always works out... There was one more thing I needed to change (in this case add). Bleh!

[TFC]

I put a poll on HPG's web site to know if HPG's users want a new interface :)

Check website (http://hel-xproducergui.fr.st)

Plz vote and let a post to tell what u want, and what kind of interface improvements u'd like

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[TFC]

Here the 1.1.3 version of HPG, this is an unrealeased version.
Changelog:
- Added EHQ Extra High setting
- Updated EHQ levels:Fast=50, Normal=60, High=70, Very High=80, Extra High=100
- Added advanced parameters (CalcPSNR, NoisyEdgeFilter, ScalingFactor and Pattern adaptivity)
- Added a temporary options to reg/unreg VSfilter to have AC3 files works correctly...
- Fixed settings saving

You can d/l it HERE (http://rv6.team.free.fr/binaries/producergui.exe)

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Ps: Plz vote if u'd like to have a new interface or not ;)