PowerDVD 5.0 released

[htc10825]

some interesting features I have quoted in the thread
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=337312#post337312

[Awatef]

Seems like there is still no Inverse Telecine function

[htc10825]

How do you know this?

I think the software player for computer display will do it by default without annouce it as a new feather. Instead of deinterlacing the player pickup just the progrossive 23.976fps source.

[Awatef]

that if it is progressive

too many DVDs are encoded 29.97fps interlaced, telecined from progressive 23.976fps.

PowerDVD XP 4 just goes in bob mode, resulting in blending in software mode and half resolution/stuttering in hardware mode, and in weave mode you got the usual combing.

[Blight]

Awatef:
Mostly Anime DVDs... or videos that was originally AIRed on TV. Hardly any movie is interlaced.

[Awatef]

@ Blight: exactly, I'm talking about anime DVDs (and there are just too many of them that are interlaced although originally 24fps progressive)

[htc10825]

almost all the old anime movies were created at less than 24fps(16-21fps), for the movie production it would be increased to (progressive)24fps by dublicating the frames. Only new and computer generated Animes are truely progressive 24fps.

According to the flags in mpeg2 stream the player will do the ivtc automatically. For the player it is less time consuming to restore the progressive frames than to deinterlace them. however, some DVD were bad authored and the flags are not existing. In such case the player will deinterlace the frames and not try to reconstruct the progressive frames(see the source as interlaced video).

[Awatef]

@ htc10825
Please don't talk about things you don't have a clue about.
I have animes as old as 1972, and they all have 24fps.
Only newer animes have mixed 24/30fps or full 30fps.
The problem is, most companies (and not some!) encode 24fps animes in 30fps interlaced as they work with the NTSC masters instead of the film prints, and don't even care about applying Inverse Telecine while encoding (to save money and/or time). So if an Inverse Telecine option is not available in the player, you'll see combing or blending, and/or stuttering.

[htc10825]

please read my post carefully. If you already did then you have a problem with the IQ.

Do not confuse the "movie droduction" with "dvd production"! Many hand-drawing animes were created at lower fps than 24(to reduce the costs). But the released movie was projected always 24fps...

You did confuse more things than just one in your posts...

[Awatef]

hmph! you don't say! ¬.¬
There is no 16 or 21fps animes mister! don't bring me numbers out of your mind that have no relation whatsoever with the reality! hmph, 21fps animes he says ¬.¬

You obviously know very little about anime, so let me explain this to you (I wonder if you ever had an anime DVD ¬.¬)
Most scenes are drawn in 8fps (every frame is duplicated 3 times to get 24fps) or 12fps (every frame is duplicated 2 times to get 24fps).
*All* panning scenes have *full 24fps*, even on the 30 years old animes! if you want proof, I'll upload for you some clips dammit!

Now all this shit has nothing to do with the Inverse Telecine thing! You driven the discussion totally off-topic!
Fact is, that most anime DVDs are encoded in 29.97fps interlaced without any kind of flags! When I rip them, I can apply Inverse Telecine on them to get smooth 23.976fps output. As far as I can tell, PowerDVD 5 doesn't include such an option for playback, so if I force Weave I get combing whenever there is motion + stuttering, and if I force Bob I get lower resolution or blending, and stuttering.

That aside, is there anything in Version 5 worth the 10$ upgrade price?

[Swede]

Ok, it's time for you, Awatef, to cool down. You're way out of line here. No matter who's right or wrong this kind of language is not wanted here.