Aspect Ratio Blues

[dome]

Sorry if this has been covered before but i'm too stupid to work this out 100 % myself and i can't find any guides on it.
I'm trying to encode an 87 min film (halloween) the digitally restored beefed up soundtrack version and it is PAL 2.35:1 specially formatted to fit 16:9 TVs.
I know the black bars are going to be chunkier than a normal widescreen(on my PC) but they seem to be even bigger on the divx file after encoding(about 2.4 or 2.5 to 1)
What should i be looking for in terms of width/height and w/h zoom (it only seems to say 0% ratio error when width zoom goes to 114 % !!!

PS : Not that it's a problem but there seems to be a cosmetic bug on the resolution tab in GK(the input pixel aspect ratio settings "anamorphic/non anamorphic are hiddenn unless you switch from pal to ntsc then back again (on input resolution tab)

Thanks to anyone who can help or show me the link to a decent guide for this one problem.

[manono]

Hi-

I'd suggest doing your cropping by hand (by using Pixel Crop). First crop the black bars away, and then crop from the left and right to bring the Aspect Error down. With luck you should get down below 2.4:1. If the Aspect Error says 0%, and you have the DAR set correctly (16:9 or 4:3), then you're OK. It's just that I prefer to crop into the video from the sides, rather than the top and bottom, as GKnot's Smart Crop does. I hate to make those 2.35:1 movies any narrower than they already are. And you might go to the Options Tab and see if you have that "Follow The ITU-R" box checked.

[dome]

Thanks a lot...i actually tried that after tweaking around with it for about 2 hours :p seems to be the only way to get that ration to 2.35 so thanks for that.:)
Only problem is, despite setting the movie for 700 mb and using 2 Pass, it's come out at 853 mb.This is the thrid time this has happened to me and i never had this before in Gordian Knot in over a year !!
Back to a more stable version (for me):scared:


LOG:
03:01:54: Started DivX5-First Pass: C:\DVD\Rips\DVDVolume_VTS_02_PGC1\pro.avs
03:05:06: Finished DivX5-First Pass: Duration: 3 minutes, 11 seconds.
03:05:06: Trying to open Log-file.
03:05:06: Success: Log-file open.
03:05:06: Encoded: 5454 Frames.
03:05:06: Speed: 28.459 Frames per Second.
03:05:06: WARNING: Number of counted frames differs from settings!
03:05:06: WARNING: Settings: 130700
03:05:06: WARNING: Counted: 5454
03:05:06: WARNING: Difference: 125246
03:05:06: Correcting Bitrate...
03:05:06: Original Bitrate = 1405 k(=1000)Bits/s
03:05:06: Error: Correction impossible.
03:05:06: Now encoding at 1405 k(=1000)Bits/s

Adding this script to C:\Program Files\Gordian Knot\VirtualDubMod\LastJob.vcf :

// $job "DivX5-Second Pass"
// $input "C:\DVD\Rips\DVDVolume_VTS_02_PGC1\pro.avs"
// $output "C:\DVD\Rips\DVDVolume_VTS_02_PGC1\pro.avi"
// $state 0
// $start_time 0 0
// $end_time 0 0
// $script

VirtualDub.Open("C:\\DVD\\Rips\\DVDVolume_VTS_02_PGC1\\pro.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x78766964,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("C:\\DVD\\Rips\\DVDVolume_VTS_02_PGC1\\pro.avi");
VirtualDub.Close();

// $endjob
//
//--------------------------------------------------
// $done

03:05:06: Started DivX5 - Pass: 2: C:\DVD\Rips\DVDVolume_VTS_02_PGC1\pro.avs
03:07:38: Finished DivX5 - Pass: 2: Duration: 2 minutes, 32 seconds.
03:07:38: Speed: 35.849 Frames per Second.

03:07:38: Done.
03:07:38: Movie = C:\DVD\Rips\DVDVolume_VTS_02_PGC1\pro.avi
Total Encoding Time: 5 minutes, 43 seconds.
29/06/2003 03:07:38: Job " 1" finished.

[Awatef]

as for oversizing .. I think you put a too high bitrate.

87 min movie on 690MB = 1108k total, so if you take 112k audio, you can put 1000k for video, and you'll land somewhere between 690 and 700MB.

[dome]

Originally posted by Awatef
as for oversizing .. I think you put a too high bitrate.

87 min movie on 690MB = 1108k total, so if you take 112k audio, you can put 1000k for video, and you'll land somewhere between 690 and 700MB.

well setting audio at less than 128k isn't a good idea with lame vbr due to audio sync issues and i don't set the bitrate..the program does that and automatically recalculates it after every pass. :)

[Awatef]

there is no audio sync issues because of vbr or because of too low bitrate.

the only thing that *may* cause sync issues is a sampling rate below 32KHz.

Anyway, you want 128k? take 128k and put video bitrate on 980k, manually if it has to be.