Anyway to use TOK with DVD2SVCD?

[canoner]

people mentioned that the TOK tool from kvcd.com provides a better way of predicting CQ value for TMPG. I checked out kvcd website but found it to be less organized than DVD2SVCD. I haven't figured out what I need and what is the procedure of doing the whole thing. Anyway, I decided to try TOK without going KVCD way. But I keep getting error messages from TOK. Has anybody succeeded in using TOK with DVD2SVCD? Can you tell me how you did it?

[jorel]

canoner,

DVD2SVCD have a great "built in" prediction and work
very fine using TMPGEnc,then you don't need to use
ToK to get the final size.

DVD2SVCD works fantastic with the last best script from Kwag,
the KVCD Notch BETA-1a,and GOP like KVCDs and
using TMPGEnc as encoder too!

is a wonderfull program!

;)

editing:
link with big details to use DVD2SVCD to make KVCDs...

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4424&start=0
:)

[canoner]

Originally posted by jorel
canoner,

DVD2SVCD have a great "built in" prediction and work
very fine using TMPGEnc,then you don't need to use
ToK to get the final size.

DVD2SVCD works fantastic with the last best script from Kwag,
the KVCD Notch BETA-1a,and GOP like KVCDs and
using TMPGEnc as encoder too!

is a wonderfull program!

;)

editing:
link with big details to use DVD2SVCD to make KVCDs...

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4424&start=0
:)

The "built in" prediction in DVD2SVCD is doing weird things lately. It uses diverging sequence of values some times and then it can never get to a right CQ value. I heard TOK works better and that is why I asked.

can you explain a bit more on how to use the script from Kwag? I see a lot of scripts under the other thread, but mostly from you, not Kway.

[jorel]

ok canoner,
the link that i post was the last script to dvd2svcd
and i got perfect size using 0.96 in file prediction factor.
the script changes to find better quality and the factor
change too cos differents filters give differents CQs and sizes,
you know.
the best to explain for us about prediction here is
DVD2SVCD moderator,i think.

link to last script(really new)form Kwag:
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3483
check this link to see the news ever,
cos if any filter change to better(like always do),
the script follow catching best result.

one more link with good explanations for matrices,GOP,..etc:
http://www.kvcd.net/e107/article.php?21.255

:)

ps:
sorry for late answers,i was out.

[canoner]

Thanks, jorel! I think I have quite a bit reading to do first and then I will try it out.

[Rassilon]

Originally posted by jorel
ok canoner,
the link that i post was the last script to dvd2svcd
and i got perfect size using 0.96 in file prediction factor.


Does increasing this closer to "1" supposed to make it more accurate? As lately on 2 DVD's both 90 minutes long, the prediction worked well on 1 and lousy on the other..
DVD1
Frames: 134485
CDSize: 800.00
Number of CDs: 1
Cut point 795.00
Using CQ Value: 37.43
DVD2
Frames: 127309
CDSize: 800.00
Number of CDs: 1
Cut point 795.00
Using CQ Value: 50.34

[r6d2]

Originally posted by Rassilon
Does increasing this closer to "1" supposed to make it more accurate? Not really, not as a general rule.