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SupernovaOnLine
24th June 2003, 14:57
I have encoded a many DVDs and I don`t understand something. I encoded every DVD to 2 CDs and used the best quality possible (I think..) using guides (Doom9).
But there is a problem. Sometimes I used equal settings for about 5 DVDs but in about 2 cases the DVD rip was perfect and in the other cases there were some strange "buggs"
I used PAL DVDs (25 fps)...there was (not great) difference just in resolution..but just in two cases. I used Two passs encoding...
I heard that very complexive movie to rip is Minority Report. What to do in such cases like that...?
In my problem..
I ripped Star Wars 1 and Stephen kings IT. SW became a very quality DVDrip (with no problem at all), But S.K.`s IT became a movie with good sound but the picture didn`t feel right- it didn`t playback clearly at all. It was like "jumping from a frame to frame".
PS: Stephen King`s IT is two-sided DVD (runtime ~180 min), so I ripped it to four CDs.
Can anyone help me...
...Where is a problem...
:confused:
OUTPinged_
24th June 2003, 17:33
First i wanted to post "there are no best settings blah blah".
But then i remembered that for 90% of movies i am ripping i dont change xvid settings. :/
More experienced people (like me \o/ ) tweak only certain stuff when doing "generic dvd movie rip":
quantization type - some people only use one, others use both, others use custom matrixes. Your encode will not become bad only because you used "not right" matrix" (chosing between h263 and mpeg one)
vhq - mostly for speed issues. no vhq for quickies, vhq1 or vhq4 for getting best of it (some people prefer "1" over "4", they believe "4" produces worse output)
quantizer caps - some people cap stuff, some dont. capping makes your encodes to be less dependable on cc settings but then you have to tweak it from time to time. (i mean strict capping here, like 2-5)
cc settings - some people tweak it for every encode, some dont ;-) I can't say that people that always tweak cc make better encodes than those that use some particular values they find best.
credits - again, some people set it, some do not. My position is that there is always some benefit for cutting another 50mb from that first pass file, so do that.
Other settings people set to those they believe are optimal. In example, i disable qpel, lumi and gmc all the time, others enable qpel in some movies, etc. but it is pretty rare to see a guy that decides if this movie he is encoding should have b-frames/qpel or no, or should it have 1 or 2 consequtive b-frames.
So it is legit to label some settings "universal for dvd ripping". :-)
(@SupernovaOnLine: I wasnt too helpful, was I? :-)
MoritzT
24th June 2003, 17:35
Always remember that different settings are "best" for different movies!
There are no universal "best" settings.
Maybe you could give us some info about the settings you used, the avisynth filters, your xvid version etc.
Moritz
MoritzT
24th June 2003, 17:57
@ OUTPinged_
But then i remembered that for 90% of movies i am ripping i dont change xvid settings.
While that may be true, most of this stuff is described in either of the following three:
* Doom9's guide
* Snowbeach's guide
* Nick's newbie thread
I don't mean to be flaming, but thats how it is, and nobody wants the quality of this forum to decrease up to a point where there are only questions such as "Universal settings for XVID...?"
Just my 2 cents.
Moritz
Turbonutter
24th June 2003, 18:36
I always use:
MSP 6
VHQ 2 (sometimes 4 if there's no rush)
H.263, sometimes MPEG
qpel and chroma ticked
no b-frames (but the jury's out on that one)
I encode credits at 20% and have chroma optimiser ticked.
Not for anime I always have VHQ4 on and H.263 is always, always used.
*flashbacks to anime artefacts*
argh!
:)
OUTPinged_
24th June 2003, 18:39
There are no universal "best" settings.
The dude above asked for settings that would make ok encode with most amount of movies. Is there anything wrong with that?
Almost all my time i tweak settings is when i choose resolution/filters/etc. Xvid itself requires very little changes between movies - only settings i mentioned.
Like this: you got 10 dvds and you have to encode them all. They have different length, noise level, aspect ratio, etc. Will your xvid settings (besides those i mentioned) for each dvd differ greatly? I bet they wouldnt - you will spend all your time looking at filter output, choosing resolution, etc.
MoritzT
24th June 2003, 18:48
@ OUTPinged_
The dude above asked for settings that would make ok encode with most amount of movies. Is there anything wrong with that?
Well.....
as I already said, such "ok with most movies" setings are described in the 3 guides mentioned above.
Moritz
bond
24th June 2003, 19:11
you can find many great hints here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53136)!
JohnMK
27th June 2003, 05:22
Originally posted by MoritzT
@ OUTPinged_
Well.....
as I already said, such "ok with most movies" setings are described in the 3 guides mentioned above.
Moritz
You can read Plato if you wish, but I much prefer someone just a bit more modern.
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