IC sizing doesn't change?

[ehagberg]

I've upgraded to the latest patch and I've tried to increase the amount of disc space IC uses when encoding a particular movie.

Every time I do so, I clobber the discdata files and make sure that the internet checking is turned off in ICHSE before running IC.

However, each time I re-encode, I get the same amount of space used, all the way up to even setting the ratio to one click below 100%... once I re-encode at 100% it does do just a plain copy, so the re-encoded size jumps way past where I'm trying to get it.

Is anyone else having this problem? Is there anything I should be checking so that I can actually control the ratio in some fashion?

Thanks,
-Eric

[monomer]

Yes, I too noticed that strange behavior a couple of months ago. That along with many other sizing issues lead me to the conclusion that sizing correctly (within 4.1Gb and 4.37Gb) the first time with IC7 was a total 'crap-shoot'. It usually took me 2 to 3 tries on average to get it to an acceptable level. Since the time requirements were now about the same as using CCE (via DVD2DVD-R) I went that route instead and have never looked back. Also the results are just so much better on the larger movies. Good Luck trying to figure out IC7's sizing 'secrets', that's a bridge many have tried to cross before... do a search, there are some who think they know how to predict IC7 file sizing, but be warned "your mileage may vary".

[benf2]

yes, i had the same problems. No matter what i chose it gave the same result. I just updated to the newest release and am going to try InstantCopy Hidden Settings Editor 1.3.1 and see if this improves my results.

[Allistah]

Just use DVDShrink. IC is damn good, but with all the problems it has, it just isn't worth the headaches it gives you. DVDShrink v2.3 is fast, looks great, and I haven't had a single problem with it yet. :-)

However, I do strip my dvds down first with IFOEdit before I run them through DVDShrink.

-Allistah

[Aragorn]

See it from this side : Some movies can't be compressed better than a specific limit... (And usually the other way round, some movies can't be compressed to 30%).
So usually there is a limit somewhere between 30% and 99% which is possible... E.g. for some movies it may be 34% and 69%. If you select 30% you will get 34% (worst quality possible) and if you select 99% you will get 69% (best quality possible)... So don't look on the sizes, have a look on how good the quality is!

Aragorn

[MackemX]

Originally posted by ehagberg
However, each time I re-encode, I get the same amount of space used, all the way up to even setting the ratio to one click below 100%... once I re-encode at 100% it does do just a plain copy, so the re-encoded size jumps way past where I'm trying to get it.
sounds like the 2.35:1 issue to me

if you set it to 99% or even as low as say 75% it will always come out the same cos IC cannot get higher than say 70% due to the black bars contained in image

there are also other factors that include MB's that aint recognised and this can also have an effect on the final outcome and incorrectly reported original title sizes is another issue

IC is useless at sizing and some DVD's are just impossible to get to anywhere near 4.37GB (even more for movie-only)