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Zeul
4th June 2003, 11:12
NuMenu4U is a program designed to re-encode all of the menus on your DVD to reduce the file size, allowing for greater bitrates to be used on the main movie/extras. Any extras that are stored in the *_0.VOB files (becoming more popular) can also be re-encoded. All the re-encoding is carried out by DoCCE4U, and upon completeion, NuMenu4U integrates with DIF4U for movie/extra stripping. There is also the facility to move all of your new authored vobs (from Scenarist) into your VIDEO_TS folder. IfoUpdate will then be executed on all of the necessary IFO's. Get VTS Sectors etc will be automatically corrected.

This is the very first beta release so I need as much feed back as possible. An updated version will be on the website in the next couple of days to fix a few anomolies.

The update release should have an improved IfoUpdate UI, and hopefully a fix for Non-English OS (although I can't test this!).

Get it at: http://numenu4u.users.btopenworld.com

Adam

fourtyfour
4th June 2003, 11:31
servus...

The update release should have an improved IfoUpdate UI, and hopefully a fix for Non-English OS (although I can't test this!).

Hm, fixed the vobedit bug in new version?
Will test it as soon as possbible. (in 8 hours :( )

Or is this an old version number with new bugfix?
*confused*

BTW: how does Numenu4U work?

I thougt, menu encoding doesn´t work, cause buttons "confusing"
Can you explain it al little bit?

I want to know what I do (or the tool for me :D ) to give you better reports, ideas and to understand the stuff :)

69Mws
4th June 2003, 22:30
I'm dealing mostly with PAL DVDs and use german Win2K on my machine.

So, I got it to encode, but I had to reset first the paths of decomb.dll and mpeg2dec3.dll to the ones from DIF4U. With the dll's from NuMenu4U it didn't work for me.

I always got in CCE an error like "Framesize 808x56 is not supported".

After changing the dll-paths to the ones from DIF4U it worked fine.

It also worked with CCE 2.66, cause NuMenu4U took control over DoCCE4u and DoCCE4u itself controls every CCE Version thanks to the integration of ECLCCE 1.5b

But after encoding it stops in VobEdit in the File-Open Dialogue :(

Maybe it's the same issue like in former DoCCE4U Versions, as ECLCCE wasn't implemented yet and you had to set the "Title" of the File-Open Dialogue. In my case it would be "Öffnen" 'cause it's german Win2K.

I'm sure BBWoof can tell you something about this language issue :)

Greetz & happy testing :D
69Mws

Zeul
4th June 2003, 22:36
new version now available:

couple of minor bug fixes.
Path to CCE is now no longer required
Support for Non-English Windows OS (maybe?)
Improved UI for IfoUpdate

To use the support for non-english please goto the appropriate sub-menu and type into the boxes, the exact wording that is seen in your OS, as follows:

Goto any app that requires you to OPEN a file (eg NOTEPAD). This will bring up the Open Dialog Box. Type into NUMenu4U the exact window name that appears (eg in german Open=Öffnen). Do the same for whatever is written on the Open Button.
The exact same procedure needs to be done for a SAVE AS Dialog Box.
Then press OK. This will automatically save the new wording. To reset, just delete the text in the boxes.

For those of you who require more information on what NUMenu4U does, I will try and explain.

The structure of the menu remains intact, so all of the buttons will work properly, and point to the correct places. There is no facility to disable buttons (I don't care for butchering DVDs so this is unlikely to be implemented). The video stream is removed from the vobs, re-encoded (thanks to DOCCE4U), and then remuxed back into the vobs. This produces a vastly smaller file size. If wanted (Default setting), when NUMenu4U has finished, DIF4U will open for movie/extras processing. To avoid any confusion the VIDEO_TS folder created by NUMenu4U will also be used by DIF4U, for unused VTSs.

When the drive mounting your DVD image is selected, the menu language streams present in the menus will be shown. This is nearly always English and occasionally, French, German, or Spanish.

Choose your preferred language or keep them all. NB there is a problem with this that manifests itself from time to time, due to a bug in IfoEdit. Very occasionally IfoEdit does not auto select all of the vob id's correctly when removing menu languages. (So far I know of R1 JP3 that this happens to). If this indeed does occur, I suggest leaving the language setting as all, run the NUMenu4U. Load up DIF4U, but before launching ReAuthorist, manually strip out the unwanted language stream in IfoEdit, remembering to select the vob id's yourself.

All of the settings can be left at Default, or change tham as necessary. If you prefer to use different AVS scripts just add or overtype where necessary, and save. This will save them for future use. To reset just press reset (suprisingly).

If you change the default settings, don't forget to check save settings.

Until DOCCE4U 1.0.1.5 is released setting the Q Factor for one-pass encoding will do nothing.

If you experience a problem with DOCCE4U 1.0.1.4 and CCE v2.5 when re-encoding (some files won't be encoded), and NUMenu4U might crash, then I suggest changing the ecl.dll and ecl.exe to a previous version (2.67.0.9) appears to work fine.

Hope this gets you started!

69Mws
4th June 2003, 22:40
Ah, just got the newest beta after I posted my issues here.

Mkay, so I'm gonna try again :)

Happy hunting :D
69Mws

Zeul
4th June 2003, 22:41
69Mws thats odd the decomb.dll and mpeg2dec3.dll are the same as DIF4U

odd?

69Mws
4th June 2003, 22:47
Originally posted by adamandhelen
69Mws thats odd the decomb.dll and mpeg2dec3.dll are the same as DIF4U

odd?

I also find that strange but it's not working for me with "your" dll's for some reason :confused:

Pointing to the dif4u dll's works fine :confused:

However it's working one or the other way :D

Greetz
69Mws

69Mws
4th June 2003, 23:00
Are you planning to expand the setting for "Language required" to more languages?

That would be really great. I'm dealing with some episodic DVDs at the moment that have way too much menu languages I'll never need....

Greetz
69Mws

Zeul
4th June 2003, 23:02
how many language menus are there?

the most i have seen is 3
or are you requesting being able to keep more than one language, (why though?)

69Mws
4th June 2003, 23:21
Originally posted by adamandhelen
how many language menus are there?

the most i have seen is 3
or are you requesting being able to keep more than one language, (why though?)

Nope, I don't wanna keep more than one language. In most cases I keep german or english menu.

I'm dealing right now with Sex & the City Season DVDs and they all have at least 4 Menu Languages (german, english, french, italian) some have even more like spanish, dutch and so on.

That's maybe because some of the DVDs here are produced once for the whole european market to save costs and have only different covers in the specific countries I think.

Greetz
69Mws

Zeul
4th June 2003, 23:25
ok didn't know a disc would have that many languages. i'll try and fulfill your suggestion

it would be helpfull if you could send me an ifo file of a menu with as many languages you can get hold of.

cheers

EcchiNut
4th June 2003, 23:56
lol
/me points to his subject

j/k

Cool tool. Trying it right now on a episode-based dvd. only 2 langs though.

D3s7
5th June 2003, 00:23
Interesting issue...

pulls into docce4u but then cce complains w/ following message:

"Frame size 892x56 is not supports. Supported frame size is up to 720x576"

D3s7
5th June 2003, 00:31
aaah.. found the problem

meg2dec3.dll and decomb.dll are not for avisynth 2.5...

might need to detect avisynth ver like dif4u does :D

Zeul
5th June 2003, 00:35
thanks thought i had mentioned avs 2.5 not supported, yet. sorry guys, apparently i didn't. it should be in the next release though

Zeul
5th June 2003, 00:40
6dmws

got your ifo, but it only has english language menu listed (LU_1)
numenu4u will look for LU_2, LU_3 etc inidicating another menu in a different language

D3s7
5th June 2003, 01:11
here's a question...

NuMenu only copies IFO and _0.VOB files over then recommends shutting off "create VIDEO_TS" folder in DIF4U

DIF4U says "make sure VIDEO_TS folder exists" so...... when/where does the rest of the non-ripped files get copied over?? - copy them before launching DIF4u?

IE: DVD I'm working on... 5 VTS's.. only ones getting re-encoded is 1,2,4 so.. what about 3,5?

D3s7
5th June 2003, 01:14
oh and FYI:

the modified IFOEdit that comes w/ newer DIF4U causes NuMenu to lock up... needs a pure .95 to work

69Mws
5th June 2003, 07:44
Originally posted by D3s7
aaah.. found the problem

meg2dec3.dll and decomb.dll are not for avisynth 2.5...

might need to detect avisynth ver like dif4u does :D

good point, that explains why it also didn't work for me 'til I set the paths to the dll's from dif4u ;)

Greetz
69Mws

69Mws
5th June 2003, 07:46
Originally posted by Zeul
6dmws

got your ifo, but it only has english language menu listed (LU_1)
numenu4u will look for LU_2, LU_3 etc inidicating another menu in a different language

Strange.....I was sure that this one was from a menu that had at least 4 languages.....I'll look into that again and will see if I find something else for you :)

Greetz
69Mws

69Mws
5th June 2003, 07:59
I still have problems with the file-open dialogue in VobEdit on my german Win2K.

It writes now the path and the filename into the file-open dialogue, but doesn't proceed any further.

I noticed that the dialogues are not always named the same in every application. So I took the namings which are in dialogues from VobEdit, but it's not working :(

Greetz
69Mws

jerschwab
5th June 2003, 10:10
I am using the programs as specified in NUMenu4U, but it seems to hang when "Correcting Navigation Pointers" on the Reservoir Dogs (special edition) main menu. This menu was small anyway, but I was trying it just as a test.

Any ideas?

Zeul
5th June 2003, 10:28
69Mws
have you renamed the Open button aswell?

jerschwab
what version of ifoedit are you using? are you using the special one that comes with dif4u? is ifoedit actually called and openend?

d3s7
only the ifos and *_0.vobs will be copied to the VIDEO_TS folder. DIF4U says "make sure VIDEO_TS folder exists" this is normal and means that any vts's you have decided not to reencode in dif4u will now be copied to the VIDEO_TS folder from NUMenu4U instead of dif4u actually making a VIDEO_TS folder as it has done in the past.

69Mws
5th June 2003, 11:45
Originally posted by Zeul
[B]69Mws
have you renamed the Open button aswell?


Yup, I did that too. I assume this setting is for the Open Button inside the File-Open dialogue, right?

I'm just wondering 'cause no other "non-english" user posted a problem 'bout that. Fourtyfour is also german, but he didn't mention having this problem 'til now.

I'll take a look again later after work, but I'm quite sure that I configured everything as needed.

Greetz
69Mws

Zeul
5th June 2003, 12:08
yes thats right the open button inside the open-file dialog, must be written aswell. the important thing to remember is when using this function, NUMenu4U will search for a dialog box or button with the exact text you have specified. if you have mispelt etc then it will fail!
If I am unable to get this right I will have to try and determine the language of your OS and hard-code it. Don't want to do that!!

D3s7
5th June 2003, 13:09
Zeul -

Yeah.. talked with eyes last night.. 1.1.2+ will see the menu files exist and copy everything else over where 1.1.1 he said to leave it unchecked

Excellent job with the app... ran 2 last night and saved almost 500mg on one from menu reductions...

Very stable once setup for an early beta IMHO

squancey
5th June 2003, 14:07
Originally posted by jerschwab
I am using the programs as specified in NUMenu4U, but it seems to hang when "Correcting Navigation Pointers" on the Reservoir Dogs (special edition) main menu. This menu was small anyway, but I was trying it just as a test.

Any ideas?

I get this same problem and I think it is to do with IfoEdit.

I have version 0.95 and I point NuMenu4U to the file but when the program invokes the IfoEdit I see that is is version 0.94.

Anybody have any ideas as I have search my machine and only found version 0.95 ??

D3s7
5th June 2003, 14:17
known bug w/ IFOEdit

delete your IFOedit.ini from your \windows dir

Zeul
5th June 2003, 14:38
d37s

delete ini file for ifoedit
this is done by numenu4u autoamtically.

v0.94 always shows in the taskbar - i don't know why, however, it doesn't affect numenu4u - i have it searching for a wide array of names, but not the special ifoedit from DIF4U. for the moment i suggest you d/l a clean version of ifoedit from doom9, and put it into numenu4u folder. I could do this on the install but it will add another .99MB to the d/l (fine for us broadband - but not for dialup).

d37s glad to see it is working for you. happy with the quality?

this a general question for you guys. can everyone check their windows directory (not system32) to check that ifoedit.ini is there.
i suggest delete it. then start up ifoedit (any version) and close. does ifoedit.ini re-appear - it should. i have numenu4u pointing to the windows directory for the ini file. please tell me if yours is somewhere else!

D3s7
5th June 2003, 14:42
Zeul,

IFOEdit.ini for me is always in the windows dir

Quality is decent....only thing I noticed is one of them seems to run in slow-motion for about 5seconds at startup (in powerdvd) - haven't tried settop yet....

squancey
5th June 2003, 15:04
I deleted ifoedit.ini and new one gets created when I restart.

Still says v0.94 in taskbar and on the title bar of ifoedit when invoke from NuMenu4U

Still freezing at "correcting navigation pointers". Tried on various movies same problem

D3s7
5th June 2003, 15:11
Run IFOEdit directly....

if it's truely .95 it'll say .95 when you execute it normally

otherwise it probably really is .94

squancey
5th June 2003, 16:18
I think I found the problem....and it has nothing to do with IfoEdit version

It think it is to do with filenames/directories.

In NuMenu4U I used a save directory of "fight club", which it didn't like and froze.

I then tried again in a different directory with a space in the name and it froze again.

So then I proceeded to specify the save directory as "temp" and it seems to run fine.

So it seems that a space in the directory path caused the problem.

squancey

Xesdeeni
5th June 2003, 16:41
@Zeul

Since you've delved into the world of menus, would you have any insight into this set of questions: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50052 ?

Xesdeeni

69Mws
5th June 2003, 18:02
Ok, I cross-checked again the non-english OS settings with the dialogues from VobEdit.

Open dialogue is labeled with "Öffnen", same is the button.

Save As dialogue is labeled as "Datei speichern unter", button is named "Speichern".

I put it exactly that way into the settings, but it's not working.

When it comes to the VobEdit File Open dialogue it fills in the path and the name of the first m2v, but doesn't proceed any further :(

Greetz
69Mws

Eldorado
5th June 2003, 18:10
Very interesting new tool! We've been missing something like this!

I'm wondering, I'm currently in the process of doing a PAL -> NTSC conversion, audio and video are rather easy, but I have never attempted converting a menu.

The menu is animated, and has multiple menu's, languages, chapter selection (with animated clips in boxes), will this be able to handle them? I'm assuming that since NuMenu4U uses CCE to re-encode, I can use the same Avisynth script I used to convert the movie?

There is also audio tracks that go along with the movie, but I don't think it would really matter if the audio isn't the same rate... ? But the big thing would be the positioning of the buttons, since I'm resizing what would I need to do to ensure the button highlights are correct?

Zeul
5th June 2003, 20:57
New version out now.

Changes include:

Support for AVS 2.5+ (i hope)
New UI - you can now select a different language (if available) per menu.

Updated UI for IfoUpdate - you can now choose any setting for any IFO. Usefull for cell only mode etc.

Better integration with DIF4U

Possibly a fix for our Non-English OS friends

Zeul

69Mws
5th June 2003, 21:38
The language selection is very nice, thx :)

But I have a strange thing going on now:
I configured File-Locations of IfoEdit and VobEdit and the Non-English OS Settings. So far, so good.

When I fired it up, it starts IfoEdit and IfoEdit just stands there doing nothing :confused:

Taskmanager shows NuMenu4u using whole CPU Power and not responding :confused:

I took a look into the destination folder to see whether it's writing files, but there are just the automatically created folders and nothing more, no demuxed files and stuff :confused:

I don't seem to have luck with your nice program 'til now, but I'm not giving up that soon :D

Greetz
69Mws

Zeul
5th June 2003, 21:48
69Mws this language barrier is causing me a headache!

69Mws
5th June 2003, 21:53
Originally posted by Zeul
69Mws this language barrier is causing me a headache!

Well, you asked for non-english os Testers and here I am, your worst non-english-os-beta-testing-nightmare :D :devil: ;)

BTW: when I leave the non-english os settings empty, it opens at least the file-open dialogue in IfoEdit, but that's it...no further processing.

Did you talk to BBWoof about that language issue? Maybe he can help you, 'cause he also had that problem before the ECLCCE integration.

Greetz
69Mws

D3s7
5th June 2003, 21:54
a line from Pulp Fiction comes to mind :D

Zeul
5th June 2003, 21:58
69Mws had a thought
do you have access to spy++ program?
i need to verify what the class name of the text box is.
in english OS its called EDIT, if it is different in german, NUMenu4u will always fail

D3s7
6th June 2003, 03:21
Zeul, you want bug reports here or in email (prefered method?)

had the sad face because vobedit was pointing to the wrong location - fixed that and the face was still sad but it let me start

face just never updated

Zeul
7th June 2003, 01:57
new version is up and running.
I have rewritten the code for ifoedit and vobedit, so it should now work for different language OS (fingers crossed!) (thanks for eyes'only for a very good idea).
D3s7 The smiley face is corrected

69Mws
7th June 2003, 11:31
Originally posted by Zeul
...so it should now work for different language OS (fingers crossed!)

Tested again, still not working for me.

I figured that it has different issues, depending on how many language units are available.

If more than one language is available it hangs in IfoEdit after closing the file-open dialogue, no matter which language I choose.

If only one language is present it's working 'til VobEdit. File-open dialogue closes and then VobEdit also just stands there doing nothing more.

Greetz
69Mws

Zeul
7th June 2003, 12:37
69Mws thanks for your continued support

what screen res are you using, is it 800*600 or different. i think this is the problem with ifoedit. the problem has been sending a message to the checkbox to select the language, and up until now have had to use automated mouse clicks (unreliable). after some extensive research into subclassing i am sure i can sort ifoedit in the next release. glad to see the open/save dialog is now working, although i made a silly mistake and forgot to delete a line of code, but at least i have got it recognising the open dialog box correctly.

ps bug reports here i think are best so everyone can see and agree/disagree.

Zeul

69Mws
7th June 2003, 12:43
No prob, betatesting on nice programs is always interesting :)

I'm using a resolution of 1024x768@32bit color-depth

Greetz
69Mws

Zeul
7th June 2003, 12:54
just a thought
you say ifoedit hangs. if you test with minimize external app unchecked so everything is shown, at what point does ifoedit stop responding. does the vob extras window and streamlist windows appear?

squancey
7th June 2003, 13:03
Originally posted by 69Mws
Tested again, still not working for me.

Just a thought....are you using spaces or non-alphanumeric characters in your destination path / file names, because this caused the app to pause at Ifoedit stage for me.

squancey

69Mws
7th June 2003, 15:04
Originally posted by Zeul
just a thought
you say ifoedit hangs. if you test with minimize external app unchecked so everything is shown, at what point does ifoedit stop responding. does the vob extras window and streamlist windows appear?

It only hangs when more than one language unit is present! It does that after opening and "filling" the file-open dialogue. Then this dialogue closes and it does nothing more.

When only one language unit is present it's all working 'til it comes to VobEdit. There's then the same behaviour as mentioned with IfoEdit.

Hm...don't know what you mean by vob extras window and streamlist windows, so I guess they didn't show up :( ;)

Greetz
69Mws

69Mws
7th June 2003, 15:06
Originally posted by squancey
Just a thought....are you using spaces or non-alphanumeric characters in your destination path / file names, because this caused the app to pause at Ifoedit stage for me.

squancey

Nope, thanks to growing up in the old days of MS-Dos I avoid having spaces in foldernames, especially when it comes to testing new applications in their beta stadium :D

Just numbers, letters and maybe underscores. Something like this for example: GHOST_SHIP or buffy_4_1_demux

Greetz
69Mws

Grover
8th June 2003, 03:33
Hi Zuel,

I've been playing around with your great (and badly needed) program for a couple of days now and I've been having the same problems as desribed above in regards to NM4U hanging at VobEdit for DVD's with multiple languages in the menus.

(Any way to get NM4U to create a log file when it runs to make it easier to track down problems ?)

I've tried to include as much info as possible below and it's in no particluar order.

At present I am trying to do MIB (original, PAL, R4) which has around 1.2 GB of extras in mainly in the VTS_01_0 and VTS_02_0 menus. There is another 50-70MB in each of the VTS_03_0 thru to VTS_07_0 menus.

VTS_01_0 and VTS_02_0 have ENGLISH, FRENCH and GERMAN languages.
When I select only the ENG in these two (the others VTS's selected as normal) NM4U will go thru all the steps (CCE etc...) until it hangs at an open dialog box in VOBEDIT waiting for direction to *.m2v file/s.

The actual NM4U window freezes and I cannot get there to see what exact stage it reaches. The NM4U app sits in Taskmanager at 100% of CPU usage and shows as 'not responding" in the APPS tab. I'm running it with un-checked for minimized apps. NM4U just goes to a white scren when it freezes at the Vobedit stage.

I can click CANCEL in the VobEdit dialog box and it then just opens VobEdit with nothing selected. I can then shut this down normaly but NM4U is still dead in the water at 100% CPU so I just end it using task manager. The folders seem to have all the correct files in them including the NEW .m2v folder which I assume means everthing up to the end of CCE encoding has gone to plan.

It is suggested to try selecting ALL languages as a possible way to work around for this issue. I am using v1.1.43 and for these VTS where there is more than one language NM4U only lets me choose ONE out of the three. I can have ENG or FRE or GER but not more than one. I can de-select the whole VTS by unchecking the top of the branch.

If I deselect these two multi-language VTS's completely at the top of the branch then NM4U runs like a charm on the rest of them and I get the little window at the end with the nice green ticks and a message telling me I'm a star and what to do next (DIF4U etc...)

I have used MN4U successfully on two other movies so far (Godfather Pt3 and Scarface). Again PAL, R4. These only had one language selection per VTS (ENGLISH). They worked perfectly (what a great program !!!!) so the issue seems to be only when removing languages.

My IfoEdit reports only version 0.95 when running NM4U. IfoEdit is running perfectly in all instances. Only VobEdit that causes problems.

I am in Australia and am only using the "ENGLISH" version of NM4U. ie - I haven't changed any of the language settings for buttons etc.

I have tried changing my screen res as suggested and am using one word folder names such as "MIBworking" without any spaces and in the root directory of the drive. None of these seemed to make any difference when I tested them.

If you need any more info just let me know. I'm only too glad to help in whatever way I can.

Keep up the good work.

Cheers...

Zeul
8th June 2003, 10:48
ok guys
new version up
fingers crossed i have now removed the correct lines of code! for ifoedit,vobedit

now have the facility to keep all of the manu languages if you want
each cell now has the correct aspect ratio set for it in docce

let me know what you think
Zeul

69Mws
8th June 2003, 13:22
News from the front: :D

No change of issues for me with .46 :(

When multiple languages are present, IfoEdit will hang after closing the file-open dialogue. No other windows appear. It also happens when I set it to take all languages.

When only one language is present it's demuxing, encoding, firing up VobEdit and then VobEdit hangs after closing file-open dialogue.

Greetz
69Mws

hendrix
9th June 2003, 12:28
hmm...i keep getting a Run-time error '13' type mismatch when using this app...:confused:

OS = Win 2K

Zeul
9th June 2003, 13:00
type mismatch, when does this appear.
is it straight after demuxing, before dvd2avi is run?

thanks

hendrix
9th June 2003, 13:37
it occurs right when i hit the nice little smily face :D

Grover
9th June 2003, 15:25
Update:

Hi Zuel,

I have tried NUMenu4U version 1.1.0.46 and as long I select the box with ALL (ie - all ENG, FRE and GER languages) then it will run perfectly right thru to the end.

I can also select and de-select the single language VTS's as required.

I can also de-select complete multi language VTS's. (ie - for my testing I am completely unticking / de-selecting one of multi language VTS's that has 740MB in menus and selecting only the other one that has only 370MB of menus (so it runs quicker)).

If I try to choose only ONE language fromthe multi language VTS (I only tried ENG) then I now get the IfoEdit hanging problem right at the beginning when NM4U is trying to remove unwanted languages using IfoEdit. (it just sits there at an open dialog box).

Let me know if need any more info.

Cheers...

fourtyfour
9th June 2003, 20:54
servus...

I'm just wondering 'cause no other "non-english" user posted a problem 'bout that. Fourtyfour is also german, but he didn't mention having this problem 'til now.


hehe, I was on "vacation" :D (I think I need more vaction than before now)

I tried newest available beta.

Vobedit recognize streams, but on my movie, a synchronisation error from mpeg file comes up in a loop!!!

Only crash vobedit with taskmanager helps to stop this error.

any ideas ?

69Mws
10th June 2003, 00:14
Glad you're back Fourty :D

Greetz
69Mws

Dvd@Best
10th June 2003, 11:37
HI...
Hmmmmm Gr8 proggy...nice work man...
well if i request something will u add that feature .....i know t depends on wat the request it...but as far i can think....it is possible for the person like u...

ok come to the point...
i want u to add a option/feature to ur program....
which takes VIDEO_TS.ifo as input
Compare it with the given VIDEO_TS.ifo.
IF the menu languages of the given ifo is same as in input ifo then copy all the cmd of the correpondent menus unit LU frm the input ifo to given ifo.

now a question will raise WHY i want to do this,well i do some authring in which i create the stucture of the dvd in scenarist.So after the compling i use IFOEDIT to copy the cmds frm the original one to authored one.
And most of the dvds has more then 100 cmds , so its really killing me.Also ifoedit crashed sometime while copying cmds...so its all paining..
I hope i had cleared my problem and my NEED.
I am sorry if my english is bad.

Thanks in advance.
DVD@BEST

shoarthing
10th June 2003, 22:09
Zeul - Hi - many thanks for all the work you're putting into this 'last link in the 4U chain' [well, first link really, butcha know what I mean . . .]

v046 works well for me on most simple-ish PAL projects: the things I would like to see sorted/developed may sound like details; but I suspect they mean a doubtless tiresome re-think of the interface:

a) It's really, really common to find [say] an interlaced VTS_01_0 alongside a progressive VIDEO_TS & so on: since *.avs parameters are set globally, you have to run NUMenu4U at least twice, then [since it won't work to the same folder] move stuff across before you run DoItFast4U . . . and,

b) it's not too rare in PAL DVD's [especially the multi-menu'd 'Bonus' ones the kids like so much, & walk on, & use as plates & etc . . ie the ones you really have to back up pronto] to find a mix of TFF & BFF . . . again, there's no access to CCE flags [or, indeed, to the *.ecl's].

. . . so what I'd like to see is [say] right-click to a tweaking window for each menu NUMenu4U lists; allowing individual settings for *.avs & *.ecl parameters per menu.

. . . but overall NUMenu4U is a fascinating piece of work showing that VobEdit/IFOEdit can indeed counter CCE's GOBs by working entirely in the relatively small closed GOPs of a menu - great stuff.

brashquido
11th June 2003, 01:36
Hmmmm....

I'm using .46 on PAL region 4 of Blackhawk Down, but am getting the similar problems as Grover was with VOBedit just sitting there. Could it be linked to the screen resolution as I read in an earlier post? Just mine is set to 1280 x 1024, and if I manually click open, it goes to save, but then comes up with a run-time 53 error, file could not be found. I've only played with it for a couple of hours, so I'll post back when I can give a bit more detail.

*edit*

As pretty much everyone else has said, very excited by this program. I've been putting my large menu projects asside up until now wondering what the best way to attack them was, I see this program as the last essential step in reducing original data size to produce trully excellent 1:1 backups. About the only thing from here is support for non PGC rips by RA :D

brashquido
11th June 2003, 05:14
Nope, same thing. I just tried using .46 on Sum Of All Fears which only has the one menu language, and it still hangs upon opening VobEdit. As soon as I click open, NuMenu4U seems to input a filename and path, then it almost immediately comes up with a runtime-error 53: file could not be found. It's too quick for me to read the filename and path. I'm not using a fancy pants paths either, just c:\demux\{movie name} where the movie name is 8 characters or less with no spaces. I've also tried using several different screen resolutions, but I didn't think that was a potential problem since a few releases back anyway.

shoarthing
11th June 2003, 15:05
brashguido - Hi - doubt it's screen resolution: am using 1200x1600 &/or 1024x1280.

KTac
11th June 2003, 23:32
I too am having the problem of crashing while running VobEdit. It re-muxes the first VOB-ID alright and then I get run-time 53 error. VobEdit stops at the save dialog for the re-mux of the second VOB-ID.

Zeul
12th June 2003, 11:03
ok to try and fix the foreign language os i need some testers in addition to 69Mws who has been very supportive. so if you have a non-english version of windows and would like to help please pm.

thanks for the input so far

E-Male
12th June 2003, 12:06
I also ge stuck at the "öffnen"/open-box
german winxp

KTac
12th June 2003, 12:14
I forgot to write this initially. I am using Windows XP English version. This doesn't seem to be a foreign language OS issue, at least not for me.

paulers
16th June 2003, 00:31
I tried this program and it worked perfectly the first time! Im using XP pro and I encoded The Sopranos Season3 disk1.

Very cool! I'm real excited for this application! Nice work!

see ya!

-Paulers

brashquido
16th June 2003, 01:04
I'm in pretty much the same boat as KTac. I'm using the English version of Windows 2000 Pro.

paulers
16th June 2003, 17:17
I think I may have spoke too soon. After taking a closer look at the video in the menu, the video plays out of synch and a part of the menu jumps around.

Did I do something wrong?

paulers
17th June 2003, 17:43
I tried it 4 more times with the same menu and had the same results. I even tried tweaking the .avs settings. All the video falls out of synch with the audio.

brashquido
20th June 2003, 00:18
Just tried another DVD. Changing Lanes PAL R4 with a 231MB menu and the program halts upon Vobedit being opened. Maybe it's the program versions I'm running? Apart from Avisynth (2.5) they're all the latest versions, and CCE is 2.66.107. What are those of you who are sucessful using?

Grover
20th June 2003, 03:49
I'm using Avisynth (2.5), CCE 2.5,

NuM4U has worked perfectly for me as long as there is only ONE language in the menu VTS. (as per my post further back in this thread)

Cheers...

brashquido
20th June 2003, 05:06
2 out of 3 menu's I've tried have been single language :confused:

paulers
21st June 2003, 05:50
I believe mine only had english menus. I wonder if I should try a different version of avisynth. I just grabbed the latest.

paulers
21st June 2003, 21:58
nope Sopranos audio is still out of sync

surreal120
22nd June 2003, 22:52
I am getting the old problem with IfoEdit just sitting there doing nothing, except there is only ONE menu language unit. Using IfoEdit .95 and version 46 of NuMenu on Win XP Pro. Tried with several DVDs, all same result (so far I've never been able to get NuMenu to work).

Is there anything special you have to name the output folder (I am just calling it like "Movie\Menu")? Are you supposed to point to the folder created by DIF4U?

Grover
23rd June 2003, 07:12
Are you supposed to point to the folder created by DIF4U? I always thought you should run NuMenu4U BEFORE DIF4U.

NuM4U will start up DIF4U once it has finished and will set DIF4U to run with the "DO NOT CREATE VIDEO_TS FOLDER" option. This is because NuM4U will have created a "project folder" and pointed DIF4U to it. The folder will have the compressed VIDEO_TS created by NuM4U.

I've used NuM4U about 15 times successfully so far. And just as many times it has failed /hung/ crashed. Mostly on multi-language titles. But I just did Remember the Titans (PAL R4) which has only ENGLISH and NuM4U crashed / hung the first time I ran it (don't know where as I wasn't watching it and there is no log file produced). I deleted the folder and ran it again and it worked perfectly. No idea why, but it worked so I'm happy.

Cheers...

paulers
23rd June 2003, 18:07
I don't understand what could cause synching issues. I just tried dvdshrink and it encoded the menus correctly without synching issues. I guess I could just take the dvdskrinked menus and replace the origionals, then encode the movie.

Grover
24th June 2003, 03:37
Originally posted by paulers
I don't understand what could cause synching issues. I just tried dvdshrink and it encoded the menus correctly without synching issues. I guess I could just take the dvdskrinked menus and replace the origionals, then encode the movie. I could be wrong but I think the difference might be that NuMenu4U involves de-muxing, encoding and then re-muxing the video with the original , whereas DVDShrink does not use this method. I would guess that if there was any slight errors during the process then the video and auido could get out of sync somehow.

I have used DVDShrink as you describe a few times now for movies with large amounts of stuff in the menus that NuM4U crashes on (ie - multi language). Quite often you can reduce the other languages you don't want to still pictures and remove the audio and then you don't need to compress the English (for me) menu items or only by level 1 or 2 to make the VIDEO_TS folder a more reasonable size.

Cheers...

D3s7
25th June 2003, 20:08
One thing I've found is when you launch DIF4U from NuMenu the VIDEO_TS.* files don't get copied over.. you have to manually do that

otherthing to watch for (at least for me) is the files NuMenu copies over are flagged read only...

Buddy
26th June 2003, 19:27
After installing the last and every version I get run-time error 75: Path/File access error.
Looks like I'm the only one again?:D

D3s7
26th June 2003, 19:30
Nope I get that too when closing out if any of the subapps are still running

Buddy
26th June 2003, 19:39
The program does not start with the error and the strange thing is that it runs correct on my 1800 computer but it does not run on my 2400 computer.:confused:

D3s7
30th June 2003, 03:12
Anyone find a fix for the "Type mismatch" error after demuxing?

I all of a sudden started having the same issue... - tried reinstalling w/ same result

Zeul
30th June 2003, 23:13
i think i have fixed that particular anomoly in the newest version i am currently working on, i suspect it only appeared when you a tried a different dvd, to previous attempts

quantum
3rd July 2003, 19:45
So far I'm impressed, except for the fact Numenu is the only program that has ever ruined a DVD burn in process on my XP system. I have a Pioneer A04/104 and when Numenu starts up and queries the drives, it halts any burn in process with Nero. I verified this twice. Thankfully I was burning to an RW so I didn't waste a disk.

quantum
3rd July 2003, 23:29
I was able to successfully process a menu. Some issues:

1) I have the 'frozen vobedit' problem as mentioned by others in this thread. It happens on my Win2k machine. It does not happen on my XP machine. Is there any fix for this?

2) When doing a single CCE pass, the Q factor is always 40, no matter what I set it to? I have the latest docce4u 1.5

3) (question) Does the program always create a 'non forced film' when running dvd2avi? Is pulldown being run after the process? I'm in NTSC land.

4) When choosing multipass VBR, why must I use three passes or higher? Often I do one pass. It gives me VBR encoding with predicatable file size, and I don't see a big difference between one pass and three pass. In any case, why not give the user the option?

Buddy
4th July 2003, 09:54
For some reason the program started to work on my 2400xp. But on both my computers I don't pass the vobedit anouncement that it can't find the mpeg stream and after that I only get vobedit errors and my computer won't get out of the program without the help of windows taskmanager.

quantum
5th July 2003, 17:01
Tried to process menus for the Matrix NTSC.

Run-time error '13':
Type mismatch

Immediately after pressing the smiley face button. Happens on both XP and Win2k.

Buddy
5th July 2003, 18:58
Is there anybody outthere that has a working program????:confused:

D3s7
11th July 2003, 17:29
Ok dumb question here...

Is the .ifo's that NuMenu generates fully compatible or does it need to be patched if your not resizing the rest of the VTS?

IE: Have a movie that will fit on DVD-5 if I shrink the menu file.. no need to transcode anything else

Darklistener
11th July 2003, 18:32
Hi
ich have a problem

run-time error '53': File not found

does someone knows how i can fix it or what I made wrong?

D3s7
11th July 2003, 18:34
check your file setup to the subprograms. soundslike you moved/deleted a file

Darklistener
11th July 2003, 23:30
i checkt it all i have every where the right .exe chosen ...
docce4u recodiert the menu and then when it should be take together to vobs there is nothing i dont even find a reauthrist scrip or something else

plz someone give me a tut ^^

Zeul
15th July 2003, 16:47
ok guys i'm back (sort of)
have been on holiday, moved house, lost broadband, no satellite TV... the list goes on.

But now I should be able to address many of the issues raised in the forum. I believe i have fixed the freezing VobEdit/IfoEdit problem and the multi-language problem. Correct aspect ratio is now set, frame diagnosis is now used. Other enhancements too.

All will be revealed in the next beta release.

I am a bit concerned by the out of synch issue. If anyone can spread more light on this issue it would be appreciated. (Is it NTSC only?) It could be an issue with pulldown??

Zeul

D3s7
15th July 2003, 17:01
Welcome back :)

if your doing Frame detection, don't forget a temp fix for the docce4u bug

quantum
16th July 2003, 00:14
Looking forward to the next beta. If by 'frame diagnosis' you mean something similar to the way dif4u figures out wether to use forced film, deinterlacing, etc., I hope you give some way to manually override and adjust the avs script. The automatic stuff rarely picks the right settings for me. I always double check the AVS in virtual dub before running it through CCE.

Darklistener
18th July 2003, 05:57
Hi
does anyone knew when the new beta will be released?

Zeul
18th July 2003, 14:04
thanks for enquiring

the new beta version us being tested now, by a select few. when the reports are in I will release.

Zeul

Steel
21st July 2003, 01:37
I am also getting "runtime error 13" "type mismatch" directly after it demuxes the vobs. I am trying to do Gangs of New York D1 R1. Windows xp sp1. Tried twice, same error.

Darklistener
26th July 2003, 07:53
I'm realy looking forward to the next version
because the older versions don't functioned on my pc.

How far are the tests?

When you think is the new beta ready for release it?

thx :)

Zeul
26th July 2003, 14:08
First, appologies for the lack of support so far, but please read below.

@ Darklistener

Thanks for your enquiry. A new version has been completed and will be up on the website by Tuesday.

Known Issues:

There is still a problem with some OS (mostly Non-English) and freezing of vobedit/ifoedit.

A synch issue has also arisen. Basically if a cell is long enough, it will be out of synch with the video. If your menu is static or the motion is animated, this is not a huge problem. However if your motion menu is taken straight from the movie (eg Back To The Future R2), there is a noticable delay. I believe this is more problematic with PAL sources, as NTSC sources seem to have a lot of very short cells, PAL has a few long cells.

Occasionaly the video can stutter, this again is due to a different GOP structure.

I don't think these issues are going to go away, especially synch, and stutter. This is all due to trying to use a cce m2v stream which has a different GOP structure to the original.

Fix:

At the moment I am working on a radical new approach that doesn't use Ifoedit or Vobedit. This removes any OS issues, and the synch/stutter problem. Basically its analyse the new VOB and rewrite the IFO to match, keeping the same navigational commands. So far I am about half way through. This is not like using vobedit, because the whole VOB file has to be rewritten,not remuxed to include all the menu overlays. Then the IFO rewritten to match all the new positions of the vob file.

I did consider making an SCP script for Scenarist, but all of the menu overlays would need to be created as a bmp image that scenarist would import, exactly matching the positions of the original.

The muxing will be carried out at command line, so having to avoid vobedit (which causes synch issues anyway).

This advanced release is a little way off yet, but I feel is the only way forward. So bear with me while I learn all the mechanics of a VOB file and IFO file. If this proves to be unworkable then I will have to look at the scenarist root, but initial tests look promising.

What started out as a bit of fun, and a helper for me, is becoming a full time occupation!

Zeul

Darklistener
26th July 2003, 14:34
You are working very hard to fix the bugs.
I'm very impressed.

I'm looking forward to your new ideas and versions of numenu4u.

I'm from germany so please excuse my spelling mistakes :-)

thx 4 your supp0rt :)

Steel
26th July 2003, 14:52
Has anyone tried to NuMenu gangs of new york disc 1 video_ts.vob? Region 1 NTSC. Numenu complete removes vobid 6, which is the main vob id you need to re encode to downsive the video_Ts.vob. the first 5 vob ids are very small and short, but vob id 6 is like 800 megs, and numenu just drops it. any ideas?

Zeul
26th July 2003, 15:16
@ Steel

Are you stripping any languages? ie is IfoEdit called?

Zeul

Steel
26th July 2003, 15:18
No, I am not stripping any languages. VOB ID 6 is an "extra" on the dvd. Cutscenes or something like that.

Zeul
26th July 2003, 15:25
@ Steel

Strange. Is cell 6 demuxed and in your demuxed_vob folder? Is it put in new_vob_id folder?

Steel
26th July 2003, 15:28
yes VOB ID 6 is demouxed.

Steel
26th July 2003, 15:34
ANother thing I've just noticed, VOB ID 6 is not listed in the menu language unit in the video_ts.ifo. Im not sure if that has anything to do with it or not. I can email you the IFO file if you'd like.

Zeul
26th July 2003, 15:49
has an avs script been created?

if not open up ***.d2v file and are there any listings?

Steel
26th July 2003, 15:49
VOB ID 1 = Unknown
VOB ID 2 = FBI and Copyright notice
VOB ID 3 = Miramax Logo
VOB ID 4 = Uknown
VOB ID 5 = Parental Setting Warning
VOB ID 6 = Some sort of extra thats looks lie a preview

Steel
26th July 2003, 15:50
It goes through the whole process without any errors, and the new menu it makes is missing vob id 6 completely.

Zeul
26th July 2003, 15:55
in new_vod_id check the merge.bat file. right click, edit and post the script.

Zeul
28th July 2003, 20:53
version 1.1.0.58 is now available for d/l

see previous post for known issues

Zeul

D3s7
28th July 2003, 21:39
Ught oh.. found a bug in the new version

File path location - the button for IFOEdit.exe's location actually updates VOBEDit's path...

On mine, the path to IFOEdit always is showing empty w/ no way to update...

--- closing w/ the "X" so not to save I checked the reg and it's pointing correctly for both entries... I'm running a test to see if it works and is just a visual problem

Zeul
29th July 2003, 01:20
OOps quick update now done.

D3s7
29th July 2003, 02:15
Ahem

The requested URL /NUMenu4U.v.1.1.0.58.exe was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.


:)

Link is suppose to be .60.exe I'm guessing?? (seeing how that's there)

http://numenu4u.users.btopenworld.com/NUMenu4U.v.1.1.0.60.exe

Zeul
29th July 2003, 02:22
well spotted glad to see you're paying attention, hehe

now fixed

E-Male
29th July 2003, 08:54
your site seems to be down :(

Zeul
29th July 2003, 09:18
no problems with the site

E-Male
29th July 2003, 11:42
works now

quantum
29th July 2003, 19:33
Just installed and started the new version. It runs on my Win2k box which previously had the frozen vobedit problem, so that seems to be fixed.

[Edit] Oops, spoke too soon. It never actually finished. There's good old vobedit hanging out there with nothing to do...

Darklistener
29th July 2003, 22:20
hi
on the dvd are 3 menus
if i extract it also

but i can only choose eng. the other 2 are not listed

is it a prob wies ifoedit or what can i do?

Darklistener
1st August 2003, 19:04
Hi
I don't know if you want to tell or not, but can
you tell me what infos stands in which files during
the "doing" of numenu4u :)

it won't work at my pc also the reencode is complete
so i want to put the files to gether to the new menu
wie scenarist by my own and use the things of numenu4u
that are going well :)

thx


P.S: plz excuse my terrible english I'm from germany =)

D3s7
2nd August 2003, 18:26
Hey Zeul...

I don't think the IFOUpdate utility section is actually executing IFOUpdate...

it moved my files over however it appears it didn't execute IFOUpdate after that...

I'll let you know mroe after I test more
___________________

Update: It's opening IFOUpdate, setting all the settings however appears it doesn't actually "Update IFO" :)

Zeul
4th August 2003, 13:44
thanks D3s7
I'll look into that

D3s7
4th August 2003, 21:43
BTW... Kudoos for adding that utility...... excellent way of doing it seeing how there's so many "options" to do IFOUpdate

Darklistener
6th August 2003, 14:43
Hi
I have tried to reencode my menu with numenu4u V. 1.1.0.60.
The demuxing und reencoding works fine.
The files in DEMUXED_MENU_VOB,FRAMESERVING,
NEW_M2V, NEW_VOB_ID seems fine.
But where the new menu should be is nothing.

So my question is: how can I rebuild the menu
with this files?
With Scenarist? If yes then how?

Can anyone help?

sry if there are spelling mistakes or something else.
I'm from germany so please excuse it :-)

D3s7
6th August 2003, 15:08
you get any errors? numenu come up saying "Complete"??

If so the menu files should be in your VIDEO_TS directory

Zeul
6th August 2003, 15:14
As stated by D3s7 you're files should be in VIDEO_TS dir or further to you're previous post does NUMenu4U actually finish?

Zeul

Darklistener
6th August 2003, 16:02
thx 4 answering
but numenu4u isn't complete and the file isn't
in the folder.
There I would have found it on my own, i hope :)

kuestess
6th August 2003, 17:50
I'm having a problem re-encoding the menus from Pulp Fiction (NTSC, R1). NuM4U gets through the CCE part and then at the VobEdit step, just sits there with an empty (nothing in the filename line) Save As dialog box and stops. Doesn't freeze, just waits for a filename. Any ideas?

Zeul
6th August 2003, 20:08
@kuestess

familiar problem i'm afraid, am working on a solution at the moment
zeul

E-Male
7th August 2003, 07:25
for me [win xp, german] this problem is solved with the new version

Darklistener
7th August 2003, 19:26
Hi
I tested around and i got
the same problems how kuestess got.

the other thing i didn't understand
is that i have ifoedit 0.95 on my pc
and located in numenu4u the ifoedit.exe
which is from version 0.95 but when
numenu4u opens it on the top is
written ifoedit version 0.94
any ideas?

thx :)

D3s7
7th August 2003, 19:28
delete your ifoedit.* files from \windows or \winnt (where you installed)

common problem w/ ifoedit

jerschwab
11th August 2003, 08:15
I am getting a "sharing violation" error when DoCCE4U tries to load up the ccedata.txt file created by NuMenu4U. Has anyone received this error or know what I can do?

Zeul
11th August 2003, 08:47
@jerschwab

I have never experienced that b4 - can you provide any additional info?

zeul

Eldorado
11th August 2003, 16:30
Is it possible to encode menu's < 25meg? I get an error message saying it must be at least 25meg.

I'm trying to convert a PAL menu to NTSC, it's only 22meg in size, and using NuMenu4U makes the conversion very easy!

Zeul
11th August 2003, 17:09
@Eldorado

I have set the minimum threshold at 25Meg ( I didn't see why anyone would want to bother re-encoding a vob of such a small size). However I hadn't considered ppl doing a format change like yourself. I will address this issue at a later date, offering to change the min demux threshold.

ps as an update on the long overdue NEW! version, progress so far is that a complete reauthor of the menu vob is now done (not a remux), which removes all synch/stutter/GOP issues. My only stumbling block is demuxing the subpics @ commandline. VSrip (the obvious choice) only works on non-menu vobs, but am working on a fix for this.

Ifoedit is to be used for reauthoring individual cells (at the moment), and as such I have written a small commandline utility to add a cli control to ifoedit (this needs a lot of testing by YOU!!) Please pm me if you would like to try the ifoedit_cli.

Zeul

Master Yoda
15th August 2003, 16:59
I just re-encoded a menu that is 500mb and use's a CBR, down to about 230mb using a avg of 2800.The menu looks good but it does'nt play as smooth as the original, is there anyway to sort this or am i doing something wrong,dont think i am.

Snowface
15th August 2003, 17:41
Well....I've been working with The Big 3 for some time now and it makes it so much easier, I really love working with them.
But now I've tried NuMenu4U and somehow I can't get it to work...(this gets complicated). I start it up and it does it's thing. It even finishes, but there's no new menu...eventhough VobEdit has Remuxed, there are no new files :confused: anywhere.
I also learned that, because CCE (btw I'm using v2.5 crc patched for Athlon) makes a different IBP sequence, you can't remux the new m2v files.....you need to reauthore them....but there are no ac3 or wav files to be found....just demuxed m2v files and the old vob files....
And if don't close any program and continue with DoItFast4U, it still overwrites the video_ts folder.....:scared:
Since it has a very simple UI, I can't say what creates this problem.
I'm using WinXP Eng with SP1, CCE 2.5, the latest versions of The Big 3 IfoEdit and VobEdit etc.

Any thoughts anyone?

Zeul
15th August 2003, 20:14
Master Yoda @ Snowface

read my previous threads

Snowface
15th August 2003, 23:29
I'd read this entire post before asking my question, but apparently I missed an entire page....sorry
I read that the remuxing also bring a few problems and you're working on the problem, so I can remove that question.
But there something still not clear about the empty menu folder: I start it up and it does it's thing. It even finishes, but there's no new menu...eventhough VobEdit has Remuxed, there are no new files anywhere. On page 7 Darklistener had a simlar problem, but in his case NuMenu4U wasn't finished.
Or have I missed or misunderstood something yet again?

Zeul
16th August 2003, 15:47
@Snowface

I think this issue is caused when the vob is run through IfoEdit, but the destination path hasn't been set properly. It seems intermittent, but the new release (coming soon!) will work differently, so this won't happen.

Zeul

Snowface
16th August 2003, 15:50
Thnx, I'll double-check every again and I can hardly wait for your new (yet another) excellent tool.

Xitrum
18th August 2003, 01:46
Hi Zeul,
I have heard about NuMenu4u for a while, in fact, I did try it once when the first beta was released, but I had problems trying to get it to work at the time, so I never tried it again, but I'm still following your progress with the program.
I'm just wondering, whether am I correct in assuming that what you're trying to achieve can be done quite easily with the combination of DVDShrink and the big 3s?
If a movie has a large menu in size, what I often does is used DVDShrink to shrink down the menu and the extra, but leave the movie at 100% (for faster processing). After DVDShrink finished, I just deleted the main movie files. I then used the big 3 to reduce the main movie from the original disk. When that completed, I then used IFOUPdate and IFOEdit to update my main movie files with the rest of the movie files produced by DVDShrink and that always worked.
The only thing different I can see, is that with your program I would end up with a better quality for the menus because the menu are re-encoded with CCE.

jerschwab
18th August 2003, 04:56
Hi Zeul, sorry I didn't respond sooner... I've been real busy.

Here are some more details on the "sharing violation" error:

- DVD is Fawlty Towers Disc 1 (from the Box Set)
- Ripped DVD as normal (iso mode) with DVD Decrypter.
- Mounted image
- Began processing with NuMenu 1.1.6

This is the exact error in DoCCE4U:
A sharing violation occurred while accessing C:\DVD-R_Processing\FAULTY_TOWERS_DISC_1\DEMUXED_VTS_01_0\FRAMESERVING\docce4u.txt

If there's anything you would like to know, please ask. I'll leave the files on my hard drive for a few days.

Zeul
18th August 2003, 10:24
@ Xitrum

Read you own post - you have answered the question for me
Quote:

The only thing different I can see, is that with your program I would end up with a better quality for the menus because the menu are re-encoded with CCE.

Zeul

Xitrum
19th August 2003, 00:30
@Zeul
Thanks for replying. Personally, I am not so worry about the quality of the menus and extras, but I do for the main movie. But I'm aware that there are others out there who will not be happy for anything less.
Keep up the good works.

Demo
24th August 2003, 01:54
This is my first post here though I have been lurking for a while, trying to sort my problem out. After registering I was not allowed to post for 5 days so I emailed Zuel with the information I have learnt. Alas I don't know if he got the mail.

Many of you have been having problems and quite a few have had the same problem as I......Numenu4u stops at IFOedit with no real explanation.

I tore my hair out for several days trying to get Numenu4u to work, following, precisely, the instructions of a colleague........I think my colleague was growing tiresome of my failures but don't tell him I said that.......Whoops I do believe he visits this forum :).

After several days of trying on the first computer, which was running win2kSP4, I tried on a second computer, which ran on WIN2kSP3, and ended up with the same problems. I then started up a third computer, which is a test computer that was running win2kSP4 and had nothing else installed, installed the necessary programs and I still had the same problem.

I then formatted the test computer and installed winXPsp1, installed the necessary programs and waited for the failure.........To my surprise the failure never came and Menu4U completed.

The settings were the same throughout.....I had even mailed my colleague to send pretty little pictures of the settings, thinking I was doing something stupid. Even I can follow pretty little pictures :).

Since mailing Zuel I have changed the first computer from win2kSP4 to winXPSP1 and Menu4U works fine.

Obviously my conclusions from this are; Numenu4U will not work on win2kSP3/4 but may work on earlier versions of win2k.....It may be just one windows update that causes the problems.

BTW the motherboards concerned are an IWILL MPX2, an Abit BE6 and an Abit ST6 so it won't be a motherboard/chipset issue

BTW2 if anyone is managing to run Numenu4U on a win2ksp3/4 box please post details, including any updates to the OS you have installed...If it is just a single windows update that is causing the problem perhaps we can find out which one. I am quite willing to install any OS on the test machine to find the problem.

quantum
24th August 2003, 14:52
This has been my experience also. Works on my XP machine, not on my Win2k machine.

When you get it to work, it does a great job. I just compressed the menu's from Sopranos Season 3 Disk 1 to the same size as Shrink did for still frames.

I still have a problem with the Q factor when using One Pass VBR. It always forces the Q to 40 in DoCCE4U. I can't figure out if this is a DoCCE4U thing or caused by Numenu. I have worked around it by stopping DoCCE4U, changing the value in the registry, and reloading the job list. Unfortunately, it resets back to 40 after every job.

tao52
29th August 2003, 01:53
I also have the sharing violation error it happens when DoCCE4U tries to load the docee4u.txt file that NuMenu4U creates. When I navigated to the folder and open the file in Notepad it was empty. The file size is zero. It seems that NuMenu4U creates the file however it never seems to write to it.

tao52
29th August 2003, 02:12
Also forgot to mention using V 1.1.60 on a win XP pro machine with SP1. It demuxes just fine. The menu is seperated into all 7 cells. It just doesnt write the docce4u.txt file.

Snowface
29th August 2003, 11:41
Tao52
I have the same thing....It's almost like it only writes the last vob-cell right?

Zeul
20th September 2003, 02:11
This thread now closed.