Log in

View Full Version : What about filters to make a "movie-look"


vidiot
2nd June 2003, 22:25
...or is it called "film" look?

Here are so much talented people, that build up filters to make (our) videos look cleaner and smoother.(Thank you for that!)

The only other filter I knew of, is the grain filter in Dtv.

So I only want to suggest some filters like:
"Salt nŽpeppa"
"Hair in the lens" :D
"Drop out nŽspots"
"radial masking" (for super 8 "look a like")

and I guess youŽll find some more very useful ones...

PS: This is not a joke...

Thanks for reading
Harald

trbarry
3rd June 2003, 02:10
I wrote a YV12 fast AddGrain filter based upon some of Sansgrip's code but I never published it. I'll clean it up and post it if anyone is really interested.

- Tom

vidiot
3rd June 2003, 07:42
Tom,
thankyou, - that would be a nice one.
I knew of Sansgrip filter - I guess it was invented to avoid mpeg block artifacts -> I never thought of it as a grain filter!

Very curious now...
Harald

PS: Does anyone know about comercial filters like that?
If not for Vdub or Avisynth, maybe for Ulead MSP 6.5?

ErMaC
4th June 2003, 04:04
There's a rather expensive Premiere / After Effects plugin called FilmFX which I've demoed and is really damn impressive. It ain't cheap though.

vidiot
4th June 2003, 07:29
Thank you ErMac,

IŽll have a look at it (just to get the idea how they make it).

DDogg
4th June 2003, 17:37
You may find some interesting reading here also:

http://store.yahoo.com/redgiantsoftware/magbulres.html

@Shodan, if you read, they have a Demo for AE.

dar1us
19th June 2003, 16:29
@trbarry

:eek: Really Interested :eek:

If you could post that... Which is it based upon, the Noisegenerators... They were good, working for me at the moment, a little slow... But look nice when layering. As long as it works in 2.5, it's good enough for me!

I have the source for it, but dont know how to go about building it... I seen the sticky, but my connection is poor, and I dont really have the time to fiddle with it.

Anticipating response


harrison

bilu
19th June 2003, 17:02
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=55881

TADA!!!! :D


Bilu

trbarry
19th June 2003, 17:06
If you could post that... Which is it based upon, the Noisegenerators

dar1us -

I released it yesterday on my site and posted in the Avisynth Users forum. You won't have to build anything though the source is there if you want to.

And yes it supports Avisynth 2.5, YV12 only. I'm not releasing any more pre-2.5 filters and many from now on will be only YV12.

Basically I just used SansGrip's random number generator code. I haven't done time trials but I'm guessing AddGrain should seem very fast. If it isn't then I probably forgot something, so let me know.

Probably irrelevant, but yesterday I found a setting for it that can make any scene look like it is raining. I don't know why I'm so fascinated with that, but it's nifty. ;)

See the readme.

www.trbarry.com/Readme_AddGrain.txt (the readme file
www.trbarry.com/AddGrain.zip (source & dll

- Tom

edit: Ha! crossed post above. bilu beat me on a reference to my own post. ;)

bilu
19th June 2003, 17:27
8) No cross posting. Post your message to the appropriate forum and nowhere else or it will be locked or deleted without warning.


My post was to redirect the user to your other thread, is this considered cross-posting? :confused:

I'm curious because I do it a lot of times :D

Bilu

trbarry
19th June 2003, 17:51
My post was to redirect the user to your other thread, is this considered cross-posting?

bilu -

No, not at all, very sorry.

Cross posting is putting multiple messages about the same thing many different places. This is annoying and against the rules.

But a "crossed post" is referring to the confusion that results when 2 people both are replying to the same post at the same time and the subsequent order of messages can be misleading. This is neither avoidable or against the rules, just sometimes confusing. Maybe there is a better name for this.

But you've aptly pointed out I should avoid that phrase here. ;)

- Tom

dar1us
19th June 2003, 22:02
@trbarry

Nice one m8y:) Also, cheers to SansGrip.

Only thing I would request is that the noise 'standard deviation' factor was made so that decimal values could be added. 1 is too small, 2 is to big.

[EDIT] I am a fool, it does take decimal values. I looked at the script, I had opened the bracket, and not closed it).

The other issue [Only thing:)] is that the noise seems to change too fast, it is kinda like a little in ya face the fact that the noise has been added. It is hard to describe what I mean... I wish I knew how to go about fiddling with things myself... Would save you from my requests and it would be my job to workout how to optimise it for myself.

Cheers again


dar1us

Kurosu
20th June 2003, 00:00
This filter should behave much like trbarry's addgrain filter. It's a straight port of Michael Niedermayer Noise Generator filter for mplayer. It's still far from producing the old movie look most advanced filters do.

I haven't tested addgrain, but this filter is rather fast, and the effect is not completely artificial.

Get it here (http://kurosu.inforezo.org/avs/NoiseGen.zip)

trbarry
20th June 2003, 03:49
The other issue [Only thing] is that the noise seems to change too fast, it is kinda like a little in ya face the fact that the noise has been added. It is hard to describe what I mean...

I'm not sure what you mean. I may have messed it up with later tinkering but at least once I was testing with small values and could not even notice them. Something like AddGrain(0.001,0,0) should be just about invisible.

But I'll try it again.

- Tom

spyder
30th June 2003, 05:50
@trbarry: I like the rain effect...very cool. I think it's better than many effect plugins in professional packages. :) I think you should have named it AddRain instead of AddGrain ;)

PS: adjusting the color a little makes it really convincing ;)

trbarry
30th June 2003, 07:07
I think you should have named it AddRain instead of AddGrain

Good one. ;)

What do you do to the color to make it more rain-like?

- Tom