HELP, Horizontal lines all over the place

[goden99]

HELP, Horizontal lines all over the place
I am fixing up an old anime (audio and video).
But i just realized after hours and hours of work that i see LINES when I put it on my big screen TV. there all horizontal and noticable EASLY on my PC screen but not as much on a regular 30'' screen but obviouse on pc screen and 47''.
The left is Before and Right is after (Several filters being used)
( I have put all the pictures at the end for better viewing )

To see the lines zoom in to the right side and they become quite obviouse.

Here are the settings I am using in virtual dub to improve the quality
is what i used with Virtual dub.

http://www.golden.net/~charleyso/sasukinewsettings.jpg

I suspect it has something to do with interlacing or deinterlacing but I don't know what that is...

Hope one of you experts can help me.
Thanks in advance.


http://www.golden.net/~charleyso/beforeandafter.jpg
http://www.golden.net/~charleyso/beforeandafter2.jpg
http://www.golden.net/~charleyso/beforeandafter8.jpg
http://www.golden.net/~charleyso/beforeandafter6.jpg
http://www.golden.net/~charleyso/beforeandafter5.jpg
http://www.golden.net/~charleyso/beforeandafter4.jpg
http://www.golden.net/~charleyso/beforeandafter3.jpg

if you want to see the high quality pictures
just copy paste the url and replace the .jpg to .bmp (but there around 500k a pic)

[goden99]

I have added a sample, I have removed audio and encoded it to Divx and make it a short clip to be easly downloaded.

Sample Video (Save as and play it) (http://home.golden.net/~charleyso/sample.avi)

[Guest]

What you are calling "lines" are actually stairstepping (jaggies). This is happening because you are deinterlacing by throwing away a field. When played large the stairstepping becomes really obvious. You need to retain as much vertical resolution as possible by using an adaptive deinterlacer.

[goden99]

Thanks for your reply.

I thought i was putting it side by side ?

Unfold fields side-by-side is the setting i used.

What other filter would you sujest ? (this is the one that came with virtual dub that i used)

[Guest]

Well, I was a little quick to reply! Too quick.

You are actually doing a blend deinterlace. The unfold/fold just allows you to do spatial filtering on the interlaced source.

Can you post a short source (unprocessed) frame. I want to see how much stairstepping there is in the original.

You can try Smart Deinterlacer. :) Or Gunnar Thalin's area-based deinterlacer. Both will keep as much vertical resolution as possible.

[goden99]

Origional Sample (http://home.golden.net/~charleyso/Origionalclip.mpg)

Sorry for the delay i couldn't upload anything to my ISP after a lot of trial and error i realized that my limit was exceeded so i removed the clip posted before. and now there is only this one.

By the way the source was a Betamax tap and an ATI all in wonder 8500 was used to capture it. I would of recaptured it but the tapes have degraded even future (tracking would go nuts and you wouldn't even see picture at some point) so i was stuck to fixing these clips.


Could you please explain the difference between the regular deinterlace and the smart deinterlace ? (I don't know much about video sorry) and were I can get this filter from.
Same with Gunnar Thalin's Area based deinterlacer.

[Guest]

Quick question before I reply...

What resolution did you capture at?

[goden99]

I never captured it. It was captured by someone else.
I belive it was 352x240.
(yes i know he should of done 352x480)

[Guest]

You're hosed, then. It will never look good on a big screen.

[Guest]

Originally posted by goden99
[BCould you please explain the difference between the regular deinterlace and the smart deinterlace ? (I don't know much about video sorry) and were I can get this filter from.
Same with Gunnar Thalin's Area based deinterlacer. [/B]Refer to my website link below and look for Smart Deinterlacer and others.

[goden99]

Thanks :)
I guess i will try it next time.
Waiting for me 2.4CGhz to arrive. (OCing it ti 3.2) so it would take somuch lses time