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MONSTA
29th May 2003, 20:37
Hi all, I am having problems with subtitles. I am reauthoring the phantom menace, but when it gets to the part of the film when the aliens speak in their own language I am knackered. Dont speak nubian and dont have a clue what they are on about. I need to know how to get the forced subs to show, but I am having no joy.

I have managed to rip the subs to my drive in .bmp format using subrip 1.15. There are a total of 28 .bmp files all together and they appear to be what I am looking for.

However, I cant get them to import into scenarist without various errors about pixel size and other technical terms like that.

I was given help before on this forum for the same thing. I have searched the archives for my past postings and found the file I wanted. The answer came in the form of a header file that I put in place of mine and hey presto it worked.

Unfortunatley that was for a region 2 PAL dvd and the one I am trying to do now is a region 1 NTSC. Can someone please offer me some help with this problem.

Thanks in advance....

Monsta.:confused:

oddyseus
29th May 2003, 21:27
if u r reffering to my post of subtitle headers, I can tell u that the difference in the two systems r the screen's height. Pal is 576 and NTSC is 480. All u have to do is change accordingly the 576 to 480 and any number lower than this to an anologue. ie 574 is going to be 478. etc.

The header I have posted is the following

st_format 2
Display_Start non_forced
TV_Type NTSC
Tape_Type NON_DROP
Pixel_Area (2 478)
Display_Area (0 2 719 478)
Color (4 3 4 3)
Contrast (15 0 0 15)
E2 (0 0 255 ===)
E1 (255 0 0 ===)
PA (0 0 0 ===)
BG (255 255 255 ===)
Directory
#####################################################
SP_NUMBER START END FILE_NAME

The only problem that u might face is the colors of the subs as this one surely uses different one from yours. If u can't make it work just use the top 6 lines of the header in place of yours and keep the color definition portion.

MONSTA
29th May 2003, 23:19
Thanks oddyseus I have now put the subs into scenarist and it doesn't complain.
I had to change these 2 lines...

Pixel_Area (2 478)
Display_Area (0 2 719 478)

so that 478 is now 477 for both

However the subs still dont show. I know they are in there as they show in scenarist, but when the movie plays......no subs. I have tried changing one line from this...

Display_Start non_forced

to this...

Display_Start forced

and I had to change these 2 lines...

Pixel_Area (2 478)
Display_Area (0 2 719 478)

so that 478 is now 477 for both

thinking that might be the problem, but still no subs in the film?

Any ideas would be appreciated, however if you cant help then I still appreciate the last answer.

Cheers mate.

Monsta.

oddyseus
30th May 2003, 14:28
Monsta, u have a major pain in front of you. I know cause I faced it a little while ago.

U have to understand the logic behind coding the actual subtitle colors to the 4 primary ones.

Read the Scenarist guide in the site. It explains this subject.

In simulation window u have to locate the frame that a sub is shown, pick up the colors u want write them down and copy them in the sst script.

Actually is a tricky situation if u haven?t ever done it before, so I am willing to layout a mini-guide for you. Just send me the sst file and I ll do my best.