Multiangle?

[Fmazzanti]

Hi,
I was wondering about the possibility of backin' up multiangle dvds with the combo doif4u+docce+ra. How must this be done, if possible? Rip everything in doif4u checking the multiangle checkbox for every pgc and then proceed as usual in RA and DoCCE4U?
Thanks...

[brashquido]

I've just come across my first multiangle title too (K-19: The Widowmaker). I didn't check the IFO on my first attempt, and if it wasn't for the fact that the first 400 odd subtitles of each language in the movie VTS where missing I wouldn't have even realised. Instead of having no subtitles where the first 400 should've been, all subtitles were brought forward, so subtitle 400 became subtitle 1. I tried demuxing by PGC again with all angles selected, but the first 400 odd subtiles of each language were still missing. Pitty RA can't handle demuxes done by VOB ID/Cell ID yet :( . Still kicks buttocks though :) .

[influenza]

Since all the titles having multiangles I have ever seen must be done by vobid you can't use RA for this.

besides that I don't think that the video will be encoded correctly (close all gops, auto I frame).

[fourtyfour]

servus...

Jepp, I´ve never seen a multiangle movie without VobID structure, too.

RA can only handle strip by PGC movies.

that´s the point :(

Only way ist to make this movie manual.

[aquabubble]

Well, I have seen one or two only in my career, but this is an example of the kind of VTS that can be backed up with RA:

PGC_1 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [00:00:06.13 / 25 fps] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 4) (uses VOB-IDs: 1,2,3,4)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 1/ 1] (Angle 1): time: 00:00:06.13 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:06.13] [Frames: 163]
[Cell 02] [V/C Id: 2/ 1] (Angle 2): time: 00:00:06.13 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:06.13] [Frames: 163]
[Cell 03] [V/C Id: 3/ 1] (Angle 3): time: 00:00:06.13 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:06.13] [Frames: 163]
[Cell 04] [V/C Id: 4/ 1] (Angle 4): time: 00:00:06.13 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:06.13] [Frames: 163]

PGC_2 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 2] [00:00:11.15 / 25 fps] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 4) (uses VOB-IDs: 5,6,7,8)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 5/ 1] (Angle 1): time: 00:00:11.15 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:11.15] [Frames: 290]
[Cell 02] [V/C Id: 6/ 1] (Angle 2): time: 00:00:11.15 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:11.15] [Frames: 290]
[Cell 03] [V/C Id: 7/ 1] (Angle 3): time: 00:00:11.15 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:11.15] [Frames: 290]
[Cell 04] [V/C Id: 8/ 1] (Angle 4): time: 00:00:11.15 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:11.15] [Frames: 290]

PGC_3 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 3] [00:00:09.22 / 25 fps] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 4) (uses VOB-IDs: 9,10,11,12)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 9/ 1] (Angle 1): time: 00:00:09.22 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:09.22] [Frames: 247]
[Cell 02] [V/C Id: 10/ 1] (Angle 2): time: 00:00:09.22 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:09.22] [Frames: 247]
[Cell 03] [V/C Id: 11/ 1] (Angle 3): time: 00:00:09.22 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:09.22] [Frames: 247]
[Cell 04] [V/C Id: 12/ 1] (Angle 4): time: 00:00:09.22 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:09.22] [Frames: 247]

[brashquido]

Ohhh! That IFO structure looks extremely similar to the one I've come across in K19, apart from the fact K19 has only a single PGC in the movie VTS. Interesting, I'll have another look tonight when I get home.