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mikewillnot
15th May 2003, 00:51
[Transferred here from One-Click forum.] As best I can reconstruct it, here's what I did. I may have missed a step or two, so I can't absolutely guarantee this will work. If this works for others (or if it doesn't), I'd appreciate feedback. I haven't checked this out carefully, but I believe this method loses multi-angle features on disc 2 for some reason, which is why the button is disabled in step 6-J. I'm not sure what got left out of Disc2 that would make that feature work; maybe VTS_03_0.* would do the trick. This "guide" assumes a basic working familiarity with the latest versions of DVDdecrypter, IFOedit and MenuEdit.

MATRIX 2-disc SPLIT [Region 1] Cheat Sheet

Basic structure:
Vts_01_*.* extras
Vts_02_*.* menus and main movie
Vts_03_*.* extras

Basic strategy:
Keep modifications and tweaks to a minimum, for full functionality.
Keep all substreams, angles, etc. Split:
Disc 1: all extras and chapters 1-12 of main movie
Disc 2: chapters 13-38 of main movie

1. Create folders \Matrix\original and \Matrix\split

2. Rip all files to folder \Matrix\original\*.*

3. With IFOedit: Open Matrix\original\VIDEO_TS.IFO. Get VTS Sectors, and Backup IFOs to Matrix\IFO-BU\original. QUIT IFOedit.

4. Split: With IFOedit, open \Matrix\original\VTS_02_0.IFO[list=a] Click VOB Extras button. On the Extras screen, make sure ONLY the following are checked:
Options box:
1. Correct Vob-Unit …
2. Correct original IFO files
3. Split to 2 DVD-R’s
4. Create Subfolders…
VOB EXPERT box: all boxes, and VOB Size: 1 GB
File/Directory paths box:
1. Destination: enter \Matrix\split
2. check AutoCopy Menu-file
e. click OK. Next, in Stream List window:
i. in PGC-1, select the line [Ch 13][Pg 13]…
ii. check Correct IFO tables
iii. click Split It
copy \Matrix\original\VTS_0_*.* to both disc folders, and copy \VTS_03_*.* to the folder for Disc1[/list=a]5. Disc 1 Modifications [to disable for Disc2 half of movie]:[list=a] With IFOedit, open \Matrix\split\Disc1\VIDEO_TS.IFO
Get VTS Sectors, and Backup IFOs to \Matrix\IFO-BU\split orig disc1
Save, and Quit IFOedit.
Modify Individual Scene Selection menus: With MenuEdit, open \Matrix\split\disc1\VTS_02_0.vob
In VobID 2, CellID 2, select buttons 9-13 and delete; first time through, on the options screen, select “Hide and update” and “Jump to non deleted button.”.
Repeat for CellID 3.
Save & exit.
With IFOedit, open \Matrix\split\Disc1\VIDEO_TS.IFO
Get VTS Sectors, and Backup IFOs to \Matrix\IFO-BU\split final disc1[/list=a]6. Disc 2 Modifications [to disable extras & Disc1 half of movie]
[list=a] With IFOedit, open \Matrix\split\Disc2\VIDEO_TS.IFO
Get VTS Sectors, and Backup IFOs to \Matrix\IFO-BU\split orig disc2
Modify First Play: in VIDEO_TS.IFO, VMGM_MAT, First Play PGC, PGC Command Table, edit PreCommand #2 to read
(JumpTT) Jump to Title: 1 Save.
Modify Start of Scene Selection Menu: In VTS_02_0.IFO, VTSM_PGCI_UT:
i. in PGC-Menu_1 (Root Menu), PGC Program Map:, double-click on
Program 1:…, and change the value to 3.
ii. In PGC-Menu_2, PGC Program Map:, Programs 1-3, change the
values to 4. [forces Scene Selection menu to start with
Scene 13 page, skipping 1-6 and 7-12.]
Save, and Quit IFOedit.
Modify Individual Scene Selection menus: With MenuEdit,
open \Matrix\split\disc2\VTS_02_0.vob.
In VobID 2, on CellID 4, select buttons 7 & 8, and delete.
Repeat for CellID's 5, 6, 7, and 8. [2COOL could no doubt suggest an easier way to do this part, with IFO edit, but this worked for me.]
Disable Extras: In VobID 6, CellID 2, select and disable
buttons 2 & 3 (“Making Of” and the red pill).
Save & exit.
With IFOedit, open \Matrix\split\Disc1\VIDEO_TS.IFO
Get VTS Sectors, and Backup IFOs to \Matrix\IFO-BU\split final disc2[/list=a]7. Burn with whatever works for you. Personally, I’m getting best results lately by first converting each fileset to an image, using ImgTools, and then burning with RecordNow Max.

dznutz1
15th May 2003, 07:08
Be willing to try this, but not familiar w/ "menuedit" and can't seem to find the software. Is this the ONLY way to properly have a working back up split onto 2 dvd's for this film?

2COOL
15th May 2003, 13:55
@dznutz1

Well, I do have my version of this movie's DVD-split cheat sheet using only IFOedit.

@mikewillnot

In my cheat sheet, since I didn't use MenuEdit, I did have a better method of disabling the menu pages instead of individual buttons. Not to outdo yours but if you want, I can post it. By the way, keep up the good work. It gives me great pleasure knowing that I have given a gift that keeps giving.:D

mikewillnot
15th May 2003, 14:34
I use MenuEdit primarily to modify the function of individual buttons on particular menus. That's partly because in some situations it's very easy to use, and may be the best tool, and partly because I haven't figured out other ways to do it yet -- and there are definitely some situations where I know there is a better way, I just don't know what it is yet. You can get the program here: MENUEDIT DOWNLOAD (http://menuedit.dimad.net/download.shtml) and you can read a discussion of it's origin and development HERE (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46178).

2COOL, I would personally find your Matrix sheet quite interesting. Comparing my mangled attempt to the Master's, don't you know.

2COOL
15th May 2003, 20:39
@mikewillnot

I decided to post my cheat sheet (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=53458) in another thread as people can ask future seperate questions to each guide.

jrg
28th May 2003, 14:23
@ mikewillnot

I followed a combo of this guide and 2 Cools for splitting the disk. The movie plays fine until some of the action scenes (1st scene w/ Trinity and the cops, dojo scene). Then it looks like it repeats a 2 second loop of the movie several times.

I have seen this happen on multiangle movies before, but was wondering if anyone has run into this for this specific backup?

mikewillnot
28th May 2003, 15:13
I'm not an expert on multi-angle and seamless branching, by any means. I haven't noticed that particular kind of problem with my Matrix backups, but I have noticed that the angle features are flaky. When I select the white rabbit, I'm generally thrown into a completely other part of the movie -- at least on the PC. When I get home, I'll test on the standalone. Whatever I get here, it's usually worse/flakier there.

jrg
28th May 2003, 15:47
mikewillnot,

Thanks for looking at this. One more point of clarification to the guide. What verison on IfoEdit are you using? On Step 4, in the VOB Expert box, you usually cannot check both 'Remove Angle Point' and 'Adjust Angle Point'. Just curious as to which one you checked.

mikewillnot
3rd June 2003, 04:36
Ahhhh - dunno. I just accept the defaults (IFOedit 95). Told you I'm no expert.

Josh
9th June 2003, 03:18
DVDXCOPY successfully can back this up to 2 dvds with no problems at all with playback or menus.