ReAuthorist is up to version 0.6.2

[aquabubble]

Ladies and gentlemen,

Firstly I must give you my sincere apologies for the lack of any status update on the development of ReAuthorist. This is due to a combination of factors that have resulted in all my waking and sleeping hours being used up. I have not rested!

I said many weeks ago that ReAuthorist would not be too long in appearing. It seems I'm not very good at estimating eh guys? ;) Well, it's not that it's taken me longer to put in those things that I originally wanted, it's purely that I've found more and more things to make people's lives easier to incorporate. Although this first release of RA is designed for PGC rips, it is now an extremely flexible tool, capable of helping to author complex projects where IfoUpdate's Adjusted Cell Mode can be used.

Doom9 has been busy writing a guide for using ReAuthorist and when it's ready I will post the link here for my lovely testers. :D

Anyway people, to prove how busy I have been I attach my latest change log for your perusal.

As a parting shot, here is my present list of things to do for the final release:
[list=1]
MPEG audio streams support
Closed captions support
Fix problems with multiple subpicture streams of the same language
More default options
[/list=1]

[brashquido]

I liked my topic title so much, I thought I'd use it again ;) . Anyway, this is just a bit of a cut and paste of a post from the DoItFast4U 1.1.1 thread with some problems I'm having which Eyes 'Only informs me are going to be ReAuthorist related.

On my latest projects (Region 4 PAL version of Bad Company and Minority Report) using the big three I've noticed these quirks;

1) After demuxing the Minority Report, I noticed once I mounted the demux folder with ReAuthorist 6.2 that there was an AC3 dummy file in there at 0x81. The weird thing is that after examining the IFO in IFOedit there is no AC3 track on 0x81 in the original movie, and indeed when I look at the VTSes to be demuxed in DoItFast4U there is no AC3 track listed on 0x81. I can get around it easily enough by just deleting the dummy, just have no idea why it's created in the first place. Weird.

2) PGC 2 in VTS 1 on both movies are very short, 18 frames for Bad Company, and 1 second for the Minority Report and are replaced with dummy scenes by ReAuthourist. The problem is that when going to author my DVD's I'm given a "Scene duration must be 0.4 second" error, and then Scenarist aborts the process. I didn't have time to check the scene durations in my lunchbreak, but I'm imagining that they are 00:00:00:00. Any idea why this would happen?

[XCPU]

Please tell me where can I download it...please...........

I have left my email address for recieving your beta version,but I haven't get it yet, Could you see it to me please?

Thank you very much!!

xcpu@hotmail.com

Hope get it as soon as possible...

[berdif]

Please don't let this be a begging thread too! Aqua will post a link to Re-authorist as soon as Doom9 has a guide over Re-authorist!

[aquabubble]

Hi XCPU,

You were one of the last people to ask in the old thread. When I get a spare 5 minutes I will be adding all your names to my list - so don't fret, you will get it soon.

But please, everybody, no more asking where to get it, no more posting email addresses! I now have enough testers and posts of this kind tarnish my threads. Thank you for your cooperation! :D

[XCPU]

Thank you aquabubble!!! Today is really a niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeee day!!!!
Thank you very much!!!!:p :p :p

[EcchiNut]

begging? whose begging?

[hendrix]

Another begging thread - dont you people read through threads before asking questions, you can get a copy by going to EFnet here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53176)

[XCPU]

Forgive me. I don't know where is the EFnet...
Would you please give me an url??

[hendrix]

Originally posted by XCPU
Forgive me. I don't know where is the EFnet...
Would you please give me an url??

download an IRC program - i use mirc (http://www.mirc.com/)
connect to EFnet then join #doom9dls

[Eyes`Only]

If this begging continues, I'm afraid our next course of action will be to just delete begging posts as soon as we see them, without responding to them at all. Knock it off you IRC-illiterate mofos!

[brashquido]

Hi All,

Just wondering if any other beta testers have come across problems with the total project file size after using the auto-size feature? I've redone my latested project twice now, and both times RA has listed 4319.92MB for muxed data, and 142.71MB for VIDEO_TS data, which adds upto 4462.63MB in total which is spot on. However, after authoring my DVD in Scenarist and copying the authored vobs (no dummies) to the VIDEO_TS folder my end project is 93.6MB oversized. Obviously next time I redo the project I can just manually set the muxed data to 100MB less, but I was just wondering why this would be because this is the first project this has happened to.

[hendrix]

@brashquido - i never had any problems with project file size.
the only problems i had was input failed so i just use RA to calculate bitrate and import them manually, im not complaining since i understand that its still an early beta.

[69Mws]

@brashquido:

I never had any problems with oversizing when using the Auto-Size Option. In fact, all reauthored DVDs were very precisely calculated to fit a DVD-R.

What setting did you choose for maximum DVD Size in RA?

Mine is set to "4680000000 bytes (recommended)" and I never had problems so far.

Greetz
69Mws

[brashquido]

Yeah mines set to the 4680000000 byte setting too, which has never given me trouble before. I remember my first project was within 35k of predicted setting. That's why it suprised me so much.

[aquabubble]

Hi guys! Right, I am back at my desk again...

Funnily enough, today I am working on tweaking the sizing. In fact, I think there might be an issue with multiple audio tracks where the bitrate is about 192kbps (normally 2 channel audio). I think this is where people would have any issues with the sizing. Brashquido - could you let me see the RA log for this one, just so I can check?

Cheers :D

[brashquido]

Well that'll be me then. This project has 11 VTSes, and four of those have multiple 192kbps audio tracks. I send my log file to you now.

[69Mws]

I'm actually dealing with some episodic DVDs (e.g. german R2 of Sex & the City) which have 192 kbps Audio.

So far I didn't end up with oversizing at the end. Maybe I'm a lucky bastard :D

Greetz
69Mws

[brashquido]

Has it got multiple audio tracks?

[69Mws]

Originally posted by brashquido
Has it got multiple audio tracks?

Yup, the original DVDs have several languages and I always keep german and english, both 192 kbps.

Just finished now a DVD from Sex & the City Season 2 (german R2) and it came out precisely to 4.36 GB.

Greetz
69Mws

[fourtyfour]

servus...

Well, the recommended size works very fine for me :)

Mostly 4.35 GB output :)

Sometimes 4.34, sometimes 4.36 GB

I never had any problems with created filesize :)


BTW: I found a method to use PCM audio with RA :

DIF4U creates the pcm as *.wav
rename the *.waf to *.vob and copy this file into the VIDEO_TS folder.
RA detects these file in VIDEO_TS and set a lower bitrate automatic.
Encode the files.

return RA to detect the newly encoded files.

"Author it" again and import the script into Scenarist.

everything will be imported, without the pcm.

So import the pcm manually and click start.

Et voila, pcm import with less work :)

[hendrix]

@fourtyfour

your pcm method with RA is genius - nuff said :D

[aquabubble]

Hi guys,

Just to let you know that doom9 has very kindly and assiduously written a guide for ReAuthorist. I'm letting my beta testers have the link to it before I go public. Main guide here:

http://www.doom9.org/mpg/ra-guide.htm

Linked from step2 are some instructions for how to use the special adjusted cell mode of IfoUpdate, which ReAuthorist makes simplicity itself:

http://www.doom9.org/mpg/reauthorist-ap2.htm

Have fun! :D

[Eyes`Only]

Guide 1 is nice. Guide 2 is erroneous. ACM mode of ifoupdate is in NO WAY as simple as that guide would like you to believe. All 15frame cells have to placed at the end of the video, which requires demuxing by vobid mode in many cases. Example: If a 10 cell PGC has a cell 6 that is only 15 frames long, it must be placed at the end, so the order of the cellids would be 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,9,10,6. There are many other hidden complications too that users will experience when they attempt ACM. ACM mode was not made to work with a pgc demuxed project. From what I can tell it was made to work by demuxing by vobid and then putting it all together into one PGC in the order that the ifoupdate gui diagram shows. It can be put into multiple PGCs as long as the cell order still matches. This 'over-simplification' of the ACM method is not only misleading, but has a high failure-ratio. I have experimented with ACM mode until I was ready to scream and throw my monitor at the wall. It's frustrating, undocumented, and possibly buggy (though I don't know, because the official behavior is vague at best).

That being said, I don't approve of that guide at all, as it makes it look too easy. It's a great idea, it just doesn't really work like that though. Props to Doom9 for attempting to create a guide for it, but without extensive research, that guide is just going to frustrate many. Remember that I said this: There will be lots of complaints of users that try that guide. The undocumentation of ifoupdate will keep us in the dark as to how to fix many of the errors that will arise too. You are gonna have your hands full when ppl try that guide using a pgc demux. It works on occasion yes, but many times it doesn't. Good luck!

As a plus: perhaps some of more apt users of our tools will embrace this ACM mode as a challenge (it will be!) and find time to discover the real way to use ACM correctly and/or document it with a guide so that we can learn to do this mode correctly?!

[dumb13]

Folks,

When trying to open http://www.doom9.org/mpg/ra-guide.htm I got a page full of this:

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Than the guide comes from Step 1.

Is it my browser, or something other may happened to that page?

Thanks and Regards
dumb

[fourtyfour]

servus...

The Guide seems not to work with Mozilla.

IE 6.0 works fine.


Minor thing:

The guide recommends Ifoupdate to do the GetVTS Sectors Job.
I recommends Ifoedit to do this job.

Some of the players like my Hamran & Kardon DVD 25 won´t accept the DVD with GetVTS Sectors from Ifoupdate.

Every movie with Ifoedit works very well :)

[Fmazzanti]

Just a quick question about ReAuthorist... please don't kill me about it. Can it be used to do PARTIAL backups? I mean, I've noticed that when doing a full DVD backup, many many movies end up with a bitrate of 3000 or less. Now I find it a little bit too low... furthermore, many extras are crap, not to tell about damn interlaced PAL material which I simply hate. I haven't found yet a good way to treat it... deinterlacing brings quality loss, and not deinterlacing makes it play jerky. All and all, I'd rather forget about some of the extras.
So how would you do that with DIF4U + RA, and keep a good DVD structure? RIP everything in DIF4U and then check only what you want in RA, or what?
Thanks...

[aquabubble]

Hi Fmazzanti

As much as I hate to give advice as to how to butcher a DVD... you should rip everything and then deselect the PGCs you don't want to keep in RA. Then click autosize again.

This retains your DVD structure, but I have to say that if strange things happen with the navigation, I cannot support any problems you may have ;)

[fourtyfour]

servus...

Well, some movie have bitrate killers like the Walt Disney ones.

I don´t need 3 Trailers of movies, that I owned already or doesn´t want to see.

So, just unclick this VTS and RA sets a dummy for this pgc. :)

In this case, mostly played before menu, so u have to fit the ifo files.

[brashquido]

Originally posted by Fmazzanti
Just a quick question about ReAuthorist... please don't kill me about it. Can it be used to do PARTIAL backups? I mean, I've noticed that when doing a full DVD backup, many many movies end up with a bitrate of 3000 or less. Now I find it a little bit too low... furthermore, many extras are crap, not to tell about damn interlaced PAL material which I simply hate. I haven't found yet a good way to treat it... deinterlacing brings quality loss, and not deinterlacing makes it play jerky. All and all, I'd rather forget about some of the extras.
So how would you do that with DIF4U + RA, and keep a good DVD structure? RIP everything in DIF4U and then check only what you want in RA, or what?
Thanks...

You can actually find a work around for the jerky interlaced playback problem in this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51776).

[Fmazzanti]

Thanks brashquido, I'll check that.
In any case, let me say that I also hate to butcher a DVD as a concept. However, and as I said before, I start to think that fitting a DVD9 into a DVD5 results many times in an unacceptable quality loss.
As for exemple, many people here claims a bitrate of 1850 or so delivers good quality for extras... that's even lower than what I used when encoding SVCDs! I would say that 1850 is enough dependeing on the source material. I've checked that if the source is 4:3, then 1850 is not good in fast moving scenes, for exemple... at least with PAL material. That's why I start to think that removing extras may be a solution (and many times these are not that interesting after all).

Well going back to the question, aquabubble, you say I must rip everything in DIF4U and the check what I want in RA and leave the rest unchecked. Well I tried that yesterday and it seemed that DoCCE4U was still encoding the unchecked stuff. I killed that at once so I cannot tell about the final result, but still, what's the pourpose of encoding what you don't need?
Thanks ;)

[69Mws]

Fmazzanti:

Rip everything and then uncheck in RA the PGCs you don't wanna keep and those won't be encoded. Also uncheck audio and subs in the related PGCs.

All that's unchecked will be replaced by dummies in the script.

You can even replace whole Titlesets by that, just make sure you also run IfoUpdate on that "dummy-filled" Titlesets after ReAuthoring.

Greetz
69Mws

[69Mws]

Originally posted by 69Mws
Fmazzanti:

Rip everything and then uncheck in RA the PGCs you don't wanna keep and those won't be encoded. Also uncheck audio and subs in the related PGCs.

All that's unchecked will be replaced by dummies in the script.

You can even replace whole Titlesets by that, just make sure you also run IfoUpdate on that "dummy-filled" Titlesets after ReAuthoring.

Greetz
69Mws

Supplemental:
I just noticed when unchecking PGCs in RA they will be passed to DoCCE4U anyway for encoding. So you need to delete the relating jobs in DoCCE4U.

The RA Script will be fine anyway, 'cause it points to dummies.

Greetz
69Mws

[Fmazzanti]

Yes I already noticed that unwanted PGCs are still sent to DoCCE4U.
Now my question is: when are these dummies created? Because I hit the Author button in RA and didn't see any dummy at all...

[catss]

Hi,

concerning the unwanted PGCs in DoCCE4U, if you don´t want to do any additional changes to the paramaters set in RA, you could just load the .ecl file RA will write after you press Author it.
You can just load that with EclCCE and only the checked pgcs will be encoded. Since this works for nearly all PAL projects I don´t use DoCCE4U at all.
After you pressed Author it, everything including the Dummys should be there, just try loading the script in scenartist, it will tell you if the files are missing, but I doubt that.

[69Mws]

Originally posted by Fmazzanti
Yes I already noticed that unwanted PGCs are still sent to DoCCE4U.
Now my question is: when are these dummies created? Because I hit the Author button in RA and didn't see any dummy at all...

They should be created after hitting the "Author It" Button.

The dummies should be located in the same folder as the corresponding Titleset/PGC and are named *.dummy.ac3, *.dummy.mpv and so on.

Greetz
69Mws

[aquabubble]

Oh! It seems you've discovered a bug! :D I will fix it right this minute...

[stanleycup]

Ooops, should have posted my message in this thread, I apologize

I just finished using DoItFast4U, DC4U and ReAuthorist using Doom's
ReAuthorist guide and I'm at the stage where you import the
ReAuthorist.SCP script file (generated by ReAuthorist) into
Scenarist.

But Scenarist is also asking for a Scenarist .scn file. Is this file
generated by ReAuthorist when you hit the Author It button? I can't seem to find any .scn file in my working DVD folder anywhere.

I'm using Reauthorist 0.63, DC4U 1.014, DoItFast4U 1.11

Any help would be appreciated.

[D3s7]

That's the file you want to create.... just make up a name in there....

it imports from the script to that file

[stanleycup]

So just create a text file with nothing in it and it will import
the .scp file to it?

[D3s7]

no...

just click on the button next to the line and put in a name... file is auto created... think of it as a "save as" button

[Fmazzanti]

No. Just write a name there and hit Ok. Then Scenarist will start processing the streams and will write the file in the end.

BTW yesterday I tried to uncheck unwanted streams in RA and this time it created the dummies without problems. I wonder what went wrong the other days...

[VerbaL]

Aqua,

Just trying out the latest version 0.6.3.2 and I still had the problem where an unchecked pgc showed up in the DoCCE4U window. This happened after using the preview window on that one and using autosize.

If I would uncheck the PGC right after I loaded my project and without touching anything it else, this wouldn't happen.

Not that it's a big issue ;-) The program still does a kickass job :D

Greetz,
verb

edit: forget to mention that i still use docce4u 1.0.1.0, maybe that's got something to do with it.

[aquabubble]

Thanks for the report Verbal - I'll look into it again :(

[Fmazzanti]

Just a quick note. I tried to replace sets in RA with dummies by unchecking items, and the outcome of the project was undersized by 0.5Gb and didn't work properly once IfoUpdated.
It is ok for me, as RA was NOT designed to butcher DVDs as aquabubble has said several times. I can't complain... and I would not complain if he was supporting this option either because he is giving this to us as a gift :) I must say on the other hand that I've backed up 20+ full DVDs with RA and they all came simply perfect. This is really amazing...

[stanleycup]

I'm just curious as to what kind of DVDs the ReAuthorist, DoItFast4U, DC4U combination has trouble backing up?

I'm particularly interested in backing up episodic DVDs like
the Star Trek Next Generation & Friends DVD collections. Do these DVDs get backed up properly?

[hendrix]

I backed up the family guy with RA and worked perfectly

[Dragon22]

Also had a DVD where it says that the main PGC is negative in size....

Other then that I think it fixed a few issues I was havign with it crashign scenarist :)

[69Mws]

Originally posted by stanleycup
I'm just curious as to what kind of DVDs the ReAuthorist, DoItFast4U, DC4U combination has trouble backing up?

I'm particularly interested in backing up episodic DVDs like
the Star Trek Next Generation & Friends DVD collections. Do these DVDs get backed up properly?

I did a lot backups of (PAL) episodic DVDs and never had trouble with it. Always came out fine to 4.35 - 4.36 GB.

You just have to watch out for the same things as in "normal" DVDs, like demuxing by VOB ID (if absolutely needed) is not supported by RA at the moment.

So far I didn't run into an episodic DVD that needed demxing by VOB ID.

I saw it only few times with Buffy DVDs, where a very small PGC used a VOB ID that was also used by another PGC. I let RA replace this small PGC with a dummy by unchecking it in RA (it only contained this 20th Century Fox Logo anyway). So I had no problems with the automated ReAuthoring Process.

Greetz
69Mws

[Fmazzanti]

BTW when I use the DIF4U+RA+DoCCE4U I end up with a folder with subfolders named VTS_01 VTS_02 and so on that in the end of the project are empty. All files go stright to the main folder and all encoded material is named VTS__0X_P0X.16~9.mpv.mv2 which I have to rename by hand to remove the .mv2 extension or Scenarist simply skips them... Is this normal?
I'm using latest RA, latest DIF4U and DOCCE4u vrsion 1.0.1.2 (I trid higher version but these didn't start my CCE SP 2.50).

[69Mws]

Originally posted by Fmazzanti
BTW when I use the DIF4U+RA+DoCCE4U I end up with a folder with subfolders named VTS_01 VTS_02 and so on that in the end of the project are empty. All files go stright to the main folder and all encoded material is named VTS__0X_P0X.16~9.mpv.mv2 which I have to rename by hand to remove the .mv2 extension or Scenarist simply skips them... Is this normal?
I'm using latest RA, latest DIF4U and DOCCE4u vrsion 1.0.1.2 (I trid higher version but these didn't start my CCE SP 2.50).

If you're dealing with PAL you have to rename the file-extensions, this was kinda bug as long as the RA script always points to mpv for PAL Streams. It has been solved in DoCCE4U 1.0.1.3/4.

What I don't get is, how you manage to get the subfolders created and in the end they're empty :confused:

The subfolder are created by DIF4U by checking "Create Folder for this VTS" and everything related to this VTS will be demuxed there including all checked audio, video and subs.

[Fmazzanti]

Danke 69Mvs. And yes, I'm also surprised about that. Everything was working fine with previous releases of everything, now I have to rename files by hand. As long as this is the only'complex' part that requires human intervention, I'm more than happy :D :D :D

[wfn1]

My apologies if this belongs in the DoCCE thread instead of this one. I just got a hold of the latest RA beta and here's the problem I'm having (btw I'm using CCE SP 2.50).

Once I have everything configured to my liking in RA I hit encode and when it brings up DoCCE, I double check to make sure everything is kosher. After that I hit the play button in DoCCE and it starts the 1st pass where it builds the .vaf file. Once the .vaf file is built it normally goes right to the multipass encoding but for some reason now it waits for about 10 seconds and then CCE gives me this error instead:

Vinfo_open() failed: Bad data X:\moviefolder\VTS_01.P01.16~9.vaf

I tried it several times and I always get this error. Also, DoCCE crashes after I press OK. I tried going back to DoCCE 1.0.1.3 but it didn't help. I also tried just loading CCEdata.txt made by DIF4U into DoCCE skipping RA completely and it does not seem to make any difference. Since this started happening after I installed RA I thought somebody else may have experienced the same issue. Thank you for any feedback.

[D3s7]

It's a bug in the latest build of eclcce... if you go back to a previous build, 2.5 will start to work again

[Fmazzanti]

damn Star Wars Attack of the Clones DVD! It's multiangle and I'm wasting my time fighting against it... I know nothing about multiangle, but only that RA can handle it under certain circumstances. Can some charitable soul explain a short anc clear recipt to identify the multiangle dvds than can be processed by RA?
Furthermore, what would be the procedure to back them up, starting from DIF4U?
Thanks...

[fourtyfour]

servus...

Hm, EP 2 is a multiangle by VobID movie, right?

So you have to split by vobID and rebuilt the structure.

Ra cannot handle this angle-movie.

[RB]

Originally posted by D3s7
It's a bug in the latest build of eclcce... if you go back to a previous build, 2.5 will start to work again
EclCCE 1.5a was released today and should fix this problem.

[Fmazzanti]

Originally posted by fourtyfour
servus...
Hm, EP 2 is a multiangle by VobID movie, right?
So you have to split by vobID and rebuilt the structure.
Ra cannot handle this angle-movie.

Well that's actually what I'm asking about! I would like to know exactly WHAT multiangle titles can be done with RA, how to identify them and how to back them up with RA.

[rkorkie]

Hey Aquabubble, I'm testing Reauthorist, and really, it's amazing. I'm not sure whether I should post bugs in here or in the IRC channel. Anyways, The last good version I am able to use is 0.6.3.2. RC1 crashes when opening, and RC2 can't calculate the average bitrate properly. It's off by large amounts. I'm currently testing this on Saving Private Ryan with the DTS soundtrack. I make sure I keep the same settings between the 2 versions, and with 0.6.3.2, I get a bitrate of 2823 with a bias of 33 and with RC2 I get a bitrate of 1175 with a bias of 10. Any ideas?

[aquabubble]

Hi rkorkie,

I think I've found the problem in the sizing code - I'll get RC3 out today to fix it for everyone. Sorry... if I'm right about where the problem is, it is a very, very stupid mistake! :rolleyes:

[hendrix]

I had the same size problem with RC2 - checking out RC3 right now.

[rkorkie]

RC3 works like a charm. Good job!!!

[VerbaL]

Finished a backup with RC3...worked like a charm and the PGC unchecking seems to be fixed now! Excellent job aqua! As usual ;)

[hendrix]

ya aqua..works great :D

[D3s7]

Ok, I'm going to go out on a limb here and sound like a real newb....

The IFOUpdate settings listed in the RA guide are not a "standard" for RA correct? Just happen to be for that particular dvd?

Are there any “key” noticeable items to determine which settings should be used when?

Only reason I ask is the ones listed are different then what I have been using but those worked just fine for me and I know the "proper" ifoupdate settings has been a debated item before...

D3s7

[stanleycup]

I've had the same type of problems which I had raised in this thread

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53891

I was just curious how different were your IFOupdate settings than
ones listed in the RA guide?

I'd be curious as I've run across this problem on a couple of DVDs

Maybe we should be using IFOedit instead of IFOUpdate to modify the
IFOs once Scenarist is done authoring the DVD.

Are there any IFOEdits guides that can guide us to do the same thing
IFOUpdate does in the RA guide?

[Eyes`Only]

stanleycup: you have no idea how helpful ifoupdate is. What it does is copy 4 sets of hex codes for each cell of the ifo. Those of us that did DVDr before any of these nifty utilities were out (we developed the utils as we discovered how to do things!) had to copy 4 sets of huge number for every cell in each ifo by hand. This process took well over an hour, was extremely frustrating, not to mention error-prone. Lots of times you'd lose your place in your ifos since you had to have 2 of them open and do a crapload of switching back and forth between them (you could print them out but then you had a whole different degree of inconvenience).

The issues that are stemming from it seem to be more related to the copying of tables and such, many of which are self explanatory, but here again those tables are rather large and with ifoedit manually you have to type each hex value in one at a time.

Doom9 used to have a guide showing how to do this before JDobbs made this app and made the guide obsolete. Possibly you can coerce him into reposting it?

All in all, the stuff ifoupdate does would take you HOURS to do by hand, and that's if you were diligent and didn't take a break! Trust one who's been there. It aint fun!

[VerbaL]

Stumbled into a bit of a problem using RA to create scripts for Austin Powers 2 PAL:

Warning This Video [ D:\AUSTINPOWERS2_RCV\VTS04\VTS__04_P02-NO-CCE.16~9_1.M2V ] has different duration.
Error The scene ( VTS_04_PGC_02, VTS04_vobid19_cellid01 ) timecode ( 00:00:00;24 ) is bigger than video duration.
Warning D:\AUSTINPOWERS2_RCV\VTS04\VTS__04_P02-NO-CCE.16~9_1.M2V
Warning : Number of SequenceEndCode is 6.

I get the warnings above when importing. This is for VTS04, but I also get them in VTS02. Both have to do with a no-cce file. Any ideas what might have gone wrong?

Greetz,
verb

[D3s7]

Verbal:

I've had those errors before.. Not a huge deal

basically the pulldown file has a different duration then the original in the ifo (usually by like .01 seconds or such)

The scene being bigger can be a problem w/ the way the GOP's get flagged w/ DoCCE4u.... if the compile fails you can bump it back slightly till it works fine..... Aqua is working w/ BBWolf to fix that

course being on a "no-cce" file this doesn't really apply as those dont' get transcoded....

I'd try to compile and see if there's issues

[VerbaL]

Ok, I'll give it a go...will have to start over again though. I got a little pissed after a couple of attempts and deleted the whole folder :D

[69Mws]

Originally posted by VerbaL
Warning This Video [ D:\AUSTINPOWERS2_RCV\VTS04\VTS__04_P02-NO-CCE.16~9_1.M2V ] has different duration.

I also get this warning in nearly every "project" with the Big Three and also with reencoded streams.

Although it seems to be not really a problem, I think it may be caused by this:

When encoding with DoCCE4U a GOP Length of 12 is set in the CCE Settings. Taking a look in the Script from RA, there is a setting for the regarding VTS named "GOP Size=15 frames".

That may probably cause this warning.

Greetz
69Mws

[rasta21]

...i think its a combination of two problems

...prob1

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=44150

...prob2

Version 2.67.00.10 Tuesday, April 22, 2003

Bug Fix
- The last frame of encoded video was missing.


...the only workaround for this prob is to fill the d2v up with 2`s. look at the link above for details.

[VerbaL]

Well, I tried again...

Simply compiling it straight away causes Scenarist to crash with loads of errors about Scene Duration not being 0.4 sec.

Then I tried to create my project manually and while importing some of the M2V files (no-cce), I got warnings about a sequencecode.

I'm totally stuck :(

[catss]

I had this errro too, the only way to resolve it is to replace the PGC causing the error with a dummy. I doubt that anything important is included in it, in my case it was tha copyright warning.

[VerbaL]

In this case it's an extra called cameo's. You have a sort of "file" on your screen where you can select the name of an actor. It then goes to a scene of the film where the actor starred in. It doesn't refer to another VTS, the clips are included in the VTS itself.

[stanleycup]

I'm using ReAuthorist 0.632 RC3 and I've come across a problem
after using Scenarist to author the DVD

When I play the DVD using the PC WinDVD player, the audio seems out of sync with the video by 3-4 seconds.

Has anybody seen audio/video sync problems before using ReAuthorist?

[stanleycup]

I forgot to add that I'm also using:

DoItFast4U 1.11
DoItCCE4U 1.014
Scenarist 2.7

I've followed Doom's Reauthorist guide pretty closely and have checked
the Autocorrect AC3/DTS delay option in DoItFast4U.

[stanleycup]

In DoItFast4U, if you uncheck the Autocorrect AC3/DTS delay option,
do we always get audio/video sync issues?

I've been trying the DoItFast4U/DoCCE4U/Reauthorist/Scenarist apps
on The Sound Of Music DVD and the audio is ahead of the video by about
3-4 seconds. I've only chosen the AC3 5.1 audio track and English subtitles. This happens whether I choose the Autocorrect AC3/DTS delay option or not in DoItFast4U.

Has anybody seen audio/video syncing delays this bad? Eebrything else on the movie is fine though.

Using the following:

DoItFast4U 1.11
DoItCCE4U 1.014
CCE 2.5 or 2.67
ReAuthorist 1.00
Scenarist 2.7

Any help is appreciated.

[Eyes`Only]

What does the delay say on your AC3 filenames?

[stanleycup]

It says 18ms

[Eyes`Only]

That's less than one frame. I don't see how you could have a 3-4 second delay with that. Are the subtitles synced? or are they synced with the audio?

[stanleycup]

Subtitles are synced up with the video perfectly. I'm backing up everything on the DVD and chose the 6 channel English AC3 file and
English subtitles

The audio is ahead by 5.75 seconds throughout the whole movie.

Should I uncheck the Autocorrect AC3/DTS delay option? Would the
problem get worse?

I was gonna use the AC3 Delay Corrector app to delay the AC3 file
at the start by 5.75 seconds to see if it helps.

I've encoded the movie 3 times and evrey time, the audio is ahead by
5.75 seconds.

I'm at a loss to figure out why. When I view the original DVD, everything is in perfect sync.

[Eyes`Only]

I put the default audio correction threshold on my app at 40 for a reason. that's the length of one frame, and the ac3 correction can only correct to the closest frame. So yes, either turn off ac3 correction or put it at 40ms like I set it as default.

Sounds like you may need to do manual delay like you described.

[stanleycup]

Yup, I manually delayed the AC3 file by 5.75 seconds before using Scenarist and now the video and audio are in sync. It's just weird that the audio was ahead by that much.