The Matrix Back-Up Success?

[dznutz1]

I have been trying to back up my (very watched) copy of The Matrix I own with alot of probs i've never had. I've backed up plenty w/ ease before.
I typically split w/ Ifoedit dvdsplit to 2 dvd's with ease. This one, no luck after endless tries...it plays back on ifoedit fine, but standalone no luck. I have all the VTS files, etc I think I need. I can't get past disc 1 to even see if disc 2 works...
I know by reading past threads this is a "tough" dvd to back-up, but has anyone had luck splitting to 2 dvd's or is this not possible w/ this particular dvd?
Thank you.

[joaoccc]

I've backed my original with instant copy.
And it works normaly

[Toona]

backed up mine with dvd2one and works fine so it is possible

[dznutz1]

Thanks, not familiar, will check around to find these programs I guess.

[dznutz1]

Ok w/ Ifoedit I get a perfect 1:1 copy, with these suggested programs, do they compress onto 1 disk or do you get to do a 1:1 copy over 2 disks like I do w/ Ifoedit. I searched the forum, not very clear on these programs, some are free, some are not...

[joaoccc]

both programs compress the movie to one dvd.

Regards

[mpucoder]

All the programs here (DVD2One, InstantCopy, DVD95Copy, DVDShrink, and DVDXCopy Xpress) are for fitting a DVD-5 or DVD-9 onto a single DVD-R.
Splitting can be done by IfoEdit, DVDXCopy, DVDToolBox, and possibly others.

[dznutz1]

Thanks everyone. I now discovered DVDshrink which is an amazing free tool, didn't know this existed.

[mikewillnot]

I've got a successful split with IFOedit. I made the split between chapters 12 & 13, put all the extras on disc 1, and made a few tweaks to the menus & firstplays on each disc.

[dznutz1]

Thanks, I prefer to not compress a movie like this, I will try Ifoedit again, so you just split in the middle of those chapters huh? Did you have to keep or tweak the vts 01, etc files?

[mikewillnot]

I made a few modifications to each disc. When I get home tonight I'll check my notes and see if I can reconstruct them.

[dznutz1]

Thank you! I have been having a real rough time with this one!

[mikewillnot]

I've developed a draft Cheat Sheet. Due to the tools & methods used, I posted it in the IFO/VOB Editors Forum, HERE (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53403). If anybody tries it, let me know how it works.

[dznutz1]

I tried this guy version and it didn't work. Simple split dvd with Ifoedit, then copy all vts 01 & 03 files over to both disks, still no luck.
http://www.hostultra.com/~dvdplanet/splmatx.html

[mikewillnot]

Could you perhaps provide more of the specifics of what you're trying, or in what way it doesn't work?

[dznutz1]

Absolutely, sorry. I am trying to split this into 2 DVD'r's based on using Ifoedit, keeping the orginal film (no rencoding ala DVDshrink, etc) like I've done succesfully with other movies I own.
After splitting, I need to transfer all the vts 01 & 03 files over since the movie is on 02. Works fine w/ ifoedit as a test and powerdvd player, but no luck on burn w/ standalone. I've tried splitting it different parts of the chapters, etc...It seems my ONLY option for this is using software like dvdshrink, etc to reencode into 1 disk, which looses some picture quality. I just want to split this into 2 dvd's keeping all extras, menus, everything kind of like doom's link here:
http://www.doom9.org/mpg/ifoedit-2dvdrs.htm
I basically am following doom's guide here perfectly which has worked for me 99% in the past, NOT this movie, why?

[mikewillnot]

Random thoughts:
1. When splitting, are you checking "AutoCopy Menu-files to destination"?
2. After you copy VTS's 1 & 3 to both discs, are you re-opening an IFO in each disc in turn, with IFOedit, and doing a "Get VTS Sectors"?
3. I've had a lot of problems lately with modified backups playing fine on the PC but not on my stupid Panasonic standalone. I've rarely been able to figure out why. I suspect that sometimes it's the media, sometimes some minor glitch in the burn, and I know that sometimes it's an oddity in the re-authored fileset that I haven't identified and can't find. I've been using -RW's as a test when I'm at all suspicious. Frequently, converting to an .img file with ImgTool, and burning that, fixes the problem.

[dznutz1]

mikewillnot thank you very much for the "random" statement of
Frequently, converting to an .img file with ImgTool, and burning that, fixes the problem. !!
I used to do that time to time and then it seems it didn't matter, but it did on this, success, thanks alot!