mpeg2 editor/ winproducer ?

[kenshin]

i used leadtek winfast 2000xp deluxe's tv capture utility to capture 4hrs 45min worth of tv from 2 series and now used tmpegenc to split the 2 series into their own mpeg2 files

i tried using intervideo's winproducer to edit out the tv commercials, but when i try to load the mpeg files, winproducer crashes :(

any other good mpeg2 editors out there for removal tv commercials ?

thanks

[FredThompson]

TMPGEnc has the ability to cut. It's int he MPEG Tools section.

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- Womble MPEG2VCR
- M2Edit
- PVACut / PVAview

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[indoboy]

Try using Ulead Video Studio, the latest one is version 7.
I've been using version 6 and quiet happy with the result.
But try to split the files, make it smaller than 1G. Is easier to edit and don't crush the program (editing big file/s is takes long time and sometimes make Ulead VS frozen).
"VOBSPLIT" is a great program for spliting VOB or movie file.

My turn:
I'm still looking around for the solution to record TV program using my Leadtek WinFast Cinema to SVCD (480x576). Since the WinPVR which comes with it doesn't have the ability to record in 480x576. Anybody know how can I get around it?

Thanks guys

[FredThompson]

You know, the most powerful solutions for this won't recompress the entire stream. I've never seen anything that properly tests how intra-GOP cuts are made.

TV recording, look on my links page.

[indoboy]

Hi Fred,

Thanks for your reply.
I went to your web site link and saw SVCDCorder. It's seem like a good program. I'm downloading it at the monet. Have you try it?

On the download section, they have this "Opensource BT8xx chipset drivers - WDM (highly recommended for hauppauge cards)".
Do you think I need this driver? I'm using Leadtek, not Hauppage.

My other problem is, I tried different software for capturing TV program, but I can't get the sound - only the video comes out. Everything alright when I'm using WinFast PVR (but not happy because the SVCD thing I mentioned before). I did try Cyberlink, Intervideo, even Ulead Video Studio doesn't give me the sound.
Help me please...

Thanks again...

[FredThompson]

No, I don't use the PC tuner to capture video any more. I use DV tapes, S-VHS, or direct extration from my TiVo.

Hauppage makes a commonly-used set of components for simple tuner cards. I just check the Leadtek site and can't tell if your device is an external encoder or if it also includes a video card.

Sound problem is probably becasue your default recording channel is not the auxilary input. Double-click on the speaker icon on the lower right, choose Options | Properties | Recording then select the appropriate sound source to record from.

[indoboy]

Hi again Fred,

My video card is Leadtek WinFast A280.
I'm using WinFast Cinema with MyVivo (this is external) to be able using TV and FM radio.

My mother board is Iwill.
My sound card is Sound Blaster Audigy, I can see the cable connection to this sound card is Aux.

In my audio set up, there is SB Audigy Audio(9800) and soundMAX Digital Audio.
Both Audio set up is working with WinFastPVR, but with other program is not. I did chaging them around. Do I have to reboot my PC everytime I change the set up?

I'm confused, which one is a correct driver for the sound to use with my PC.
I wish I don't bought this Sound Blaster, since I already have sound connection from my mother board. :-( Well, it supposed to be better, but not for me. :-)

I found an interisting information about this from your link: http://btwincap.sourceforge.net/custom.html
But the BtSpy program doesn't work with my PC.
I though I'm getting close...but always get another problem. :-(((

PS: The set up for video tuner in the other program won't stay with antenna and PAL, even I click apply. I have to change it to antenna, PAL and rescan the channel everytime I open it. But again no sound.
So confusing.

I'm sorry for taking your time Fred.
Thanks again.

[FredThompson]

I just realized what you're doing. You have a series 2 TiVo connected to an external MPEG encoder. (Bet you wish you had a series 1 and a NIC from 9th tee.)

Your problem is with the file sizes, yes?

Which OS are you running?

What is feeding the TiVo?

What is your intended end product?

[indoboy]

Dear Fred,

What is the different with MyVivo and Tivo?

I like to be able to burn my recorded TV program to CD (don't have DVD writer yet) with the best quality picture and sound. So my choice is SVCD.
My software for recording (WinFast PVR) only capture to DVD or VCD resolution.
I like using other software for capturing TV, likes Ulead Video Studio since it can capture to SVCD. But I've got problem with the sound.

Normally I capture it using Winfast PVR with optimal resolution (640x480 - 6000kbs) than convert it to SVCD using Canopus ProCoder or Ulead Video Studio. But it takes so long, since I record lots of TV program to watch later on CD. And the finished CD is not really a good quality to. :-(

Could you tell me, what should I do to get the best quality SVCD with minimum times to create it?

My system is: P4 2.4Ghz - 1G RAM.
OS: Windows XP SP1.

Thank lots Fred.

[FredThompson]

Oh, I guessed incorrectly. You typed "series 2" so I assumed TiVo.

TiVo is a digital recorder for TV with internal hard drive. It is similar to a VCR. The older versions have been completely hacked and it is possible to extract the stored recordings. This is especially nice for the units with integrated satellite receivers.

But, that's not what you meant.

OK, first, these are my opinions:

If you are using VHS, S-VHS, 8mm, Hi8, or any other analog source, I think SVCD is a waste. The analog signal is more closely compared to CVD which is about half the width of DVD. SVCD has more pixels horizontally but they do not really represent more information because the source signal does not have it. CVS is DVD-compatible assuming you use the proper audio format so you can eventually move the same data to DVD without changing it. This is important, any time you process video you will lose some aspect of the original signal.

I believe you should capture at as high a rate and resolution as possible, do whatever editing you want, then resize to fit your chosen storage medium.

I don't know enough about your device to comment on it. Just yesterday I got the ADS Instant DVD 2.0. This has 2x oversampling and 9-bit samples. What does that mean? It takes 2 "snapshots" of every "frame" of video with greater sensitivity than the original signal. Those are then combined in an attempt to reduce tape noise. The box says there are some filters but I don't know about them yet.

I remember there were problems with the Audigy sound device and the 1.0 version of the ADS hardware (which I have as well, it's going on ebay soon.) I think it was a similar problem to what you describe, no sound.

The Leadtek site has a picture that looks like an external encoder connects to an internal card. I'm not sure what type of cable and what that internal card is.

Digital video formats are based on analog video formats. Neither has anything to do with computer display formats. 640x480 is a computer resolution and it not directly related to video. If possible, capture at full DVD resolution (720x480 NTSC, 720x576 PAL) at the highest possible bitrate. CVD is 352 pixels wide so your capture will almost have 2 samples per pixel, which is very helpful.

Now, there is no highest quality while also fastest method. Worded a different way, it would be asking for highest accuracy in the shortest possible time. Things don't work that way.

Having said that, you are capturing as MPEG-2 which is a big plus.

The highest quality encode will always have more than 1 "pass" through the data. Too much to explain about that now. Basically, to best utilize a space limit (say, 800M for a CDR) the source needs to be scanned twice and the end result have a variable bit rate.

Alternately, you could decide to use a constant rate based on the available spze divided by the time. The result probably won't be as good because some scenes will have more data than they really need and some would look better if they had more.

So...back to the aps that came with your device or DVD2SVCD.

There is a utility called DVD Shrink that transcodes DVDs into a smaller size very quickly. Unfortunately, it does not yet work with regular MPEG2 files.

This is actually something I'm going to experiment on for the next week or so. There has to be a way to transcode which should take only a few minutes. Otherwise, you have to re-encode and that takes quite a while.

Another option, which might not be available to you, is to "play" your edited video over firewire to a camcorder which sends it as an analog signal to the capture device which captures at the desired end-result size. It's been done but probably isn't the option you really want.

Regarding sound problems, you should use your internal sound device first to get the entire process learned. Then you could try to work the Audigy in. If the Audigy does not work, take a look in the audio section of my page and get the free noise gate and Audacity. This will let you set a lower volume threshold so you would process the audio track to remove some of the system noise.

Check with Leadtek tech support and see if there's a way to juice up the resolution and bitrate of captures. ADS "hid" for the 1.0 but you could push it to twice the advertised rate. With MPEG, especially for capturing initially, the more bits, the better.

Beyond this, you'll have to experiment. I don't have that hardware so can't comment much more about it.

[indoboy]

mmm...

my head is spinning...hehe

Anyway, thanks for your time and help Fred.
I think I have enough today, if not I can't computed the informations in my head. :-)

Meanwhile I will stuck with my usual way to make SVCD. I will try more trick to get the best.

With Cyberlink PowerDirector Pro you can make DVD movie to DVDR/RW or to hard disk. Just an information you might need.

Have a good day and will write again when I have another problem or when I resolve my problem.

Cheers...

[FredThompson]

Waitaminute.

When you say make a DVD to hard disk. Do you mean it creates VOB and IFO files?

If so, you might be able to use DVD Shrink to reduce the size in about 10 minutes.

[indoboy]

Yes, it create DVD structure in Hard Disk. It create subdirectory called Audio_TS and Video_TS and all the file/s.

That information is for you, I don't have DVD writer yet.

Is DVD Shrink for making SVCD or DVD?

[indoboy]

I have to go Fred.
Is 5:32 PM here, going to have a shower.
Send me e-mail if you like.