Newest DoCCE4U Version

[BBWoof]

Hi, let's try this again. I've just released v1.0.1.2 which should fix most of the major problems generated with my last release ;)

BBWoof

[Eyes`Only]

W00p! Thanks for coming out with some fixes for us so expediently! I'll try the title that gave me issues with 1.0.1.1 on it soon.

[BBWoof]

Who keeps changing the topic. It's not right. It should be 1.0.1.2

BBWoof

[D3s7]

Great job

Eyes: got your same setup and it's working fine for me now...

[69Mws]

Thx for the "maintenance release". Someone's been quite busy lately :D

Still have another issue, but this is more related to ReAuthorist, so I posted it there...

Greetz
69Mws

[Mikel]

However, at the moment I can only test with version 2.5.

My recommendation at this point would be to support version
2.67.09 instead of 2.67.07 since in version 09, quite some bugs of 07 have been fixed. Thats why I switched to 09 pretty soon after it came out.

Cheers

Mikel

[BBWoof]

The next release will support 2.66.01.07 and 2.67.00.08-10. 2.66.00.09 is the only one I've tested.

BBWoof

Download DoCCE4U @ http://www.panthersden.com

[69Mws]

Originally posted by BBWoof
The next release will support 2.66.01.07 and 2.67.00.08-10. 2.66.00.09 is the only one I've tested.

BBWoof

Download DoCCE4U @ http://www.panthersden.com

It's already working with 2.66.01.07 ;)

Greetz
69Mws

[BBWoof]

Looks like things must not be going too awful bad with the new version. I would have expected more posts :)

BBWoof

[69Mws]

Originally posted by BBWoof
Looks like things must not be going too awful bad with the new version. I would have expected more posts :)

BBWoof

Or people are just too scared to use it and I'm your only betatester left *LOL* (just kidding) :D ;)

Greetz
69Mws

[Siku]

Well, it works very well on my system. I've done few encodes and I haven't found any problems. So I don't have anything to complain. :D

Regards,
Siku

[jerschwab]

I get an error when using the new DoCCE4U (1.1.0.2 beta). Even though I have CCE 2.50 installed, it still initializes EclCCE and I get the error:


EclCCE:

CCE did not finish initializing in a timely manner!

Error 126: The specified module could not be found.

Just wondering why it would invoke EclCCE if it's not needed?

Thanks again for an excellent program, I'll have to upgrade to the new CCE soon!

I'll try reinstalling DoCCE4U and see what happens. Since first pass takes an hour, I'll report back after that.

EDIT:
Reinstalling seemed to fix the problem intermittently. It worked once, and the second time it failed. I left all the settings default on the new install, but before I had the "Run CCE at low priority" checked. I don't think it was that... but who knows. Why does DoCCE4U add a path in the EclCCE .ini for CCE v2.50 if EclCCE is not required for this CCE version? I must be mistaken... but it just seems like a little bug to fix?!

[hendrix]

I get the same error using 1.0.1.2 w/CCE 2.5 & Avisynth 2.08
Windows 2000 sp3.

[BBWoof]

Originally posted by jerschwab
I get an error when using the new DoCCE4U (1.1.0.2 beta). Even though I have CCE 2.50 installed, it still initializes EclCCE and I get the error:


Just wondering why it would invoke EclCCE if it's not needed?


Why? I just didn't feel like having to do things differently for a different version. RB thinks the 'timely manner' error is fixed in the new version of EclCCE. With CCE 2.66 I only get this error when I have it running in 'Idle' mode.

BBWoof

[R3VOLV3R]

I'm using DoItFast 1.1.1, DoCCe 1.0.1.2, ReAuthorist 0.6.1 and
CCE 2.66.01.07.

The problems I'm having with DoCCe 1.0.1.2:

- The bias setting keeps on changing to a value of 10. Also the "Auto Determine Bias Setting" isn't determining the correct bias also. Once again it defaults to a value of 10.

- If you have loaded a file list, then delete the list, then load the same file list again, DoCCE won't be able to open the file list.
Only way I found for DoCCE to load the file list correctly again is to exit the program and start it up again.

Also a question about the quality setting...is it supposed to always be 40? Or should it adjust automatically?

Well those are the bugs I'm experiencing.

thanks for a great program.

[69Mws]

Originally posted by R3VOLV3R
- The bias setting keeps on changing to a value of 10. Also the "Auto Determine Bias Setting" isn't determining the correct bias also. Once again it defaults to a value of 10.


Yeah, I think BBWoof already knows about that issue.

Workaround for that: you have to retype the avg Bitrate Setting (without "point" --> e.g. 3000 instead of 3.000), klick into another field and the bias will be re-calculated correctly.

Originally posted by R3VOLV3R

Also a question about the quality setting...is it supposed to always be 40? Or should it adjust automatically?


Nope, IMHO 40 is way too high for most movies. The setting is not passed through by ReAuthorist at the moment either (called IQP in ReAuthorist).

I mostly use 16 or 17.

Greetz
69Mws

[VerbaL]

I think you are confusing QFactor and Image Quality Priority. The QFactor set at 40 is the Quantization Factor. This is the recommended value if you check out the RoBa encoding guide. It's used for the first pass. Then you also have the IQP or Image Quality Priority. That's the value you specify in RA. Since I didn't try the latest DoCCE4U, I don't know if it takes the value from RA, but I would think so.

[69Mws]

Originally posted by VerbaL
I think you are confusing QFactor and Image Quality Priority. The QFactor set at 40 is the Quantization Factor. This is the recommended value if you check out the RoBa encoding guide. It's used for the first pass. Then you also have the IQP or Image Quality Priority. That's the value you specify in RA. Since I didn't try the latest DoCCE4U, I don't know if it takes the value from RA, but I would think so.

Nope, he's right. DoCCE4U has QFactor 40, so far so good. But there's another Quality Setting now for Image Priority, which is also set to 40 by default.

It's not overwritten by the setting in RA.

Greetz
69Mws

[VerbaL]

Ah, sorry about that. I should've kept my mouth shut since I didn't try the latest version yet :D

I managed to confuse the two values at first :D

[69Mws]

No prob :)

Oh, I just saw on BBWoof's Site that DoCCE4U 1.0.1.3 has been released :)

1.0.1.3 Beta 5/13/03
* Fixed the Auto Bias not being properly set when importing files from a
CCEData.txt file.
* Fixed the Quality setting so that it gets the appropriate setting frm the
template.
* Added debug info for the Filesize Calculator. Turn debug info on and info
will appear in the log window.
* Fixed the Quality spin control from moving numbers backwards.
* Support added for CCE 2.67.00.08-10;


Greetz
69Mws

[R3VOLV3R]

Just installed version 1.0.1.3.

Got this error in the log screen...

"There were errors loading program system information!!!"

Does any know what this means?

Also is Avisynth v2.5.1 supported by DoCCE or is it only
version 2.0.8 fully compatible?

[69Mws]

It works fine for me with AVS 2.51, although I didn't get to install 1.0.1.3

Maybe try opening eclcce.exe in the installation directory and configure it again.

Maybe you have to delete eclcce.ini first, then open eclcce.exe and set there the path to your cce.exe

Greetz
69Mws

[R3VOLV3R]

More bugs...

Just loaded a file list ...

Qfactor shows up as 300 and Quality is now 100.

thanx

Also tried 69mws suggestion...still giving same error
message on DoCCE startup. I did an uninstall of version 1.0.1.2
before installing new beta.

[69Mws]

Which Version of CCE are you using?

Are there any more details on the error in the logwindow?

Greetz
69Mws

[R3VOLV3R]

Using CCE v2.66.1.07
On WinXP.

No other details given in log windows.
OS = windows nt (good)
eclcce 1.4c found
CCE dv2.66.1.07 found.
avisynth 2.0.8 found.

then this shows up which puzzles me...:confused:

"there were errors loading program system information!!!"

Have you tried DoCCE v1.0.1.3 69mws?

thanx for you help. Maybe I'll stick with v1.0.1.2 and wait
for the next beta. :sly:

[69Mws]

Nope, didn't try it yet, I'm still at work... :(

I'll post later, how it works for me.

Greetz
69Mws

[69Mws]

ok, deinstalled 1.0.1.2, installed 1.0.1.3, same error: "there were errors loading program system information".

I checked the registry.

It's because the Encoding-Templates have no names (RoBa, Multipass, etc.)

Give every template a name (first key in every template), restart DoCCE4U 1.0.1.3 and you don't get the error anymore.

This friendly troubleshooting was powered by 69Mws :D

Greetz
69Mws

[R3VOLV3R]

Thanks for the fix on that system error thing.

[hendrix]

I got the same error so what i did was re-installed 1.0.1.2 and installed .3 on top and it works fine - hope this helps :D

[BBWoof]

Originally posted by 69Mws
It's because the Encoding-Templates have no names (RoBa, Multipass, etc.)


Wow. I need to look at my code and figure out how I screwed that one up!!!

I also need to give 69Mws the "Best Beta Tester" Award. Thanks!!!!!

BBWoof

[BBWoof]

Originally posted by R3VOLV3R
Also is Avisynth v2.5.1 supported by DoCCE or is it only
version 2.0.8 fully compatible?

Honestly, DoCCE4U doesn't care what version of Avisynth you're using. ;)

BBWoof

[BBWoof]

I also forgot to put in the changelog that I've added a help file. If you select the Help -> Contents menu item it should open it up. I'm also looking for suggestions on this :cool:

-BBWoof

[69Mws]

Just a small issue:

RA 062 also creates a Datafile for DoCCE4U in another format. The first line contains a comment that this is a Datafile for DoCCE4U 1.0.1.3.

The Logwindow shows an error when reading this first line, import itself seems to be no problem nevertheless.

Greetz
69Mws

[Ripe73]

HI!

I miss 2 options in DOCCE4U 1.0.1.3..

*CCE timer interval(seconds)
*Open dialog'Open' button text...without this option DoCCE4u dont make
the multipass for me..

[69Mws]

Originally posted by Ripe73
HI!

I miss 2 options in DOCCE4U 1.0.1.3..

*CCE timer interval(seconds)
*Open dialog'Open' button text...without this option DoCCE4u dont make
the multipass for me..

1. For what do you need this interval?

2. The open dialogue should be no more issue, since CCE is now controlled by the integrated eclcce. I have german Win2K with CCE 2.66.01.07 and it works without any problem.

Greetz
69Mws

[Ripe73]

Well i thought something was wrong when both options where gone and DoCCE4u dont make the multipass for me.I use CCE 2.50 and Winxp sp1..Swedish..

[69Mws]

Originally posted by Ripe73
Well i thought something was wrong when both options where gone and DoCCE4u dont make the multipass for me.I use CCE 2.50 and Winxp sp1..Swedish..

Which Version of DoCCE4U do you use?

Did you read about the registry issue on Version 1.0.1.3 mentioned above and correct it?

Greetz
69Mws

[aquabubble]

Originally posted by 69Mws
RA 062 also creates a Datafile for DoCCE4U in another format. The first line contains a comment that this is a Datafile for DoCCE4U 1.0.1.3.

The Logwindow shows an error when reading this first line, import itself seems to be no problem nevertheless.

He he... actually this isn't compatible with any version of DoCCE4U yet - it is just to allow BBWoof to do some testing with a new file format we've been working on ;)

[Ripe73]

Originally posted by 69Mws
Which Version of DoCCE4U do you use?

Did you read about the registry issue on Version 1.0.1.3 mentioned above and correct it?

Greetz
69Mws

Yea i dont have that problem.I use Docce4u 1.0.1.3 and it says RoBa first part complete,RoBa Second part started,RoBa second part complete and the only thing i get is a 1KB file :( ..no errors!

[hendrix]

Originally posted by aquabubble
He he... actually this isn't compatible with any version of DoCCE4U yet - it is just to allow BBWoof to do some testing with a new file format we've been working on ;)

sounds like a conspiracy to me :confused:

[69Mws]

Ripe73:

Strange thing, sorry, I have no clue what this can be.

Seems you have to wait for BBWoof to answer on this one.

Greetz
69Mws

[BBWoof]

Originally posted by Ripe73
HI!

I miss 2 options in DOCCE4U 1.0.1.3..

*CCE timer interval(seconds)
*Open dialog'Open' button text...without this option DoCCE4u dont make
the multipass for me..

The timer interval and open button text were for when I was monitoring CCE with a loop. They shouldn't be needed anymore and shouldn't have anything to do with your multipass problem.

Can you try RoBa and see if it works?

-BBWoof

[BBWoof]

I haven't tested the new version with 2.50. I'll do some of that tonight.

-BBWoof

It's hard to test ever version :(

[69Mws]

I think he mentioned, that he already tried RoBa-Template.

I also think that the error is based on using CCE 2.50 with eclcce, but I'm not sure on that.

Maybe you need new options in the settings UI to point to CCE2.50 OR to eclcce (which has to be configured before with pointing to CCE 2.66 or whatever newer version).

Greetz
69Mws

[dssgorila]

just curious what should the quality setting be set to, and how does this affect the encode.
Also what is the proggressive and alternate scan for
thanks

[69Mws]

Originally posted by dssgorila
just curious what should the quality setting be set to, and how does this affect the encode.
Also what is the proggressive and alternate scan for
thanks

Do you mean QFactor or Quality? Quality is explained in the CCE Manual. A lower setting will spend higher bitrate on scenes with much motion.

From what I know a setting from 16-40 (depending on the movie) is recommended. I usually set it to 17.

The possibilitiy to (de)activate Alternate Scan and Progressive is needed by us PAL guys, when we have to deal with interlaced material and don't wanna deinterlace.

Greetz
69Mws

[D3s7]

I noticed you changed the renaming scheme on nopull items from .MPV.M2V to .MPV.MPV

any reason you don't just leave them .MPV?

[69Mws]

Two things:

The number of passes seems to be passed through now by RA, but the quality setting will still be taken from the template instead of RA.

Would it be possible that the settings are not reset to default, when changing the template after a Datafile has been loaded?

Keep up the great work!

Greetz
69Mws

[hendrix]

Im using version 1.0.1.3. with reauthorist .0621 and noticed that it names files with the NOPULL embedded to .mpv.m2v and the .scp file produced by reauthorist points the NOPULL files with just the .mpv extention. I can manually rename the NOPULL files to .mpv but is there anyway that future versions of DOCCE4U leave the nopull files to .mpv extention vice .mpv.m2v or are you and aquabubble working on something not yet known to us - or am i an idiot :D

Im a NTSC user - i figure you already guessed that.

[69Mws]

Originally posted by hendrix
Im using version 1.0.1.3. with reauthorist .0621 and noticed that it names files with the NOPULL embedded to .mpv.m2v and the .scp file produced by reauthorist points the NOPULL files with just the .mpv extention. I can manually rename the NOPULL files to .mpv but is there anyway that future versions of DOCCE4U leave the nopull files to .mpv extention vice .mpv.m2v or are you and aquabubble working on something not yet known to us - or am i an idiot :D

Im a NTSC user - i figure you already guessed that.

Aqua and BBWoof know about that issue, although I thought that it should work for NTSC properly and only PAL users are concerned with the renaming-issue, 'cause we never have to deal with pulldown on PAL sources.

If you like to ease up the process of renaming a little bit, just do the following:

- Open any texteditor
- type ren *.mpv.m2v *.
- save it with the ending "bat" (e.g. rename.bat)

All you have to do now is just copy this little batchfile into the directory where your "to-be-renamed-files" are located and execute it. Your files will be renamed to mpv again and you can delete the batch from the directory again.

That's quite useful when you have several demuxed PGCs in a demux-folder, so you don't have to rename them one-by-one manually.

Greetz
69Mws