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CharlyAR
10th May 2003, 17:01
I have an encode that DVD2AVI shows me that is NTSC and 100% 29.970 fps PROGRESSIVE. (I didn't found it in the guides nor the forum).

Mhmmm... would anybody tell me wich is the filter that I should use to get it to 24 fps?

Or is much better to just leave it that way?

Thanx.

TelemachusMH
10th May 2003, 19:12
If it is a purely progressive video, all you need to do is set Forced Film in dvd2avi.

TelemachusMH

CharlyAR
12th May 2003, 06:59
But it doesn't say FILM, it says NTSC...

TelemachusMH
12th May 2003, 07:43
hmmmm ... I'm thinking I need to read this again too.
http://www.doom9.org/ivtc-tut.htm

TelemachusMH

manono
12th May 2003, 21:32
Hi-

I think you're not the only one confused TelemachusMH. I find it a bit puzzling also. I suggest you do this, CharlyAR. Make your .d2v with No Field Operation (29.97fps). When done (or you can just make one for a part of the movie to save time) open it in Notepad and have a look. I'm thinking that it will be filled with 0s or 2s. If so, then you perform IVTC to bring it down to 23.976fps. If it says 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3..., then I'm wrong, and you can Force Film in DVD2AVI. You might also open that No Field Operation .d2v in GKnot and confirm that it's not true 29.97fps progressive. If it is, then you keep 29.97fps and don't IVTC. That is, if there's movement in every frame (and there are no interlaced frames, they're all progressive), then you have to keep it at 29.97fps.

CharlyAR
14th May 2003, 04:57
Well, it was aaaaaaaaall 0's. Thanx, but... What was that? :confused:

manono
14th May 2003, 05:34
Hi-

We're zeroing in on it now. All zeros means either it was telecined and then encoded as interlaced, but you can use IVTC to bring it back down to 23.976. Or it means that it really is interlaced and you have to keep it at 29.97fps. Or it means that it's really 29.97fps progressive. To tell the difference, open the .d2v in GKnot. Find a place where there's movement/action. Start advancing frame by frame. If every frame is interlaced, keep it at 29.97fps and just deinterlace. If no frames are interlaced, then keep it at 29.97fps, and no deinterlacing is necessary. BUT, if 2 of every 5 frames are interlaced, then you can perform IVTC and make it 23.976fps again.

And read the tutorial to which Telemachus linked. You said that DVD2AVI said it was progressive NTSC. Which may mean that the whole thing is progressive (no interlaced frames at all). I don't think we covered that possibility in the tutorial. That kind of thing is still very rare. I've seen some DVDs where parts of them are 29.97fps progressive (anime mostly), but not a whole DVD like that.

I'd be curious what you find out after looking at the frames. Keep us posted.

CharlyAR
15th May 2003, 15:31
Well, it seems that is really 29.970 fps, and *ALL* progressive. I searched the whole movie (179 minutes) and I wasnīt able to find a single interlaced frame.

And now I understand why I didnīt found this case in the tutorial. :)

N_F
16th May 2003, 08:28
Could you give us some specs for this movie? (name, region, etc...)

CharlyAR
17th May 2003, 01:18
The original post contained the name of the movie, but the moderator deleted it and sent me a mail that I had violated rule #6, so I suppose I cannot give you any spec. :( And I suppose in the same way I cannot say much more too, so... :( :(

N_F
18th May 2003, 00:21
Yeah, he PM:ed me about it.

Better leave it as it is...