Audio and subtitles galopingly out of sync

[sackese]

Hi Folks!,

First I must apologize IF there has been an answer before, as I didn't find it out. :)

Also I'm a newbie with ripping films (I want to back my films as I've had enough with scratched disks :mad: ...)

My problem is that the resulting files's audio get more and more out of sync. The 1st movie starts with ~1 sec OoS, the second movie has a time gap of >5 sec. Also the subtitles get out of sync, starting witn beeing sync:ed with the sound, to end beeing totally out of sync. This is true for both the Image file and the Muxed file. The Image file I have tested with Daemon Tools and PowerDVD-XP (which I've also used to play the muxed files.

Almost all settings are the standard ones as the program was installed (the latest version). I have tried with JB-Die Another Day, which previoulsy was ripped with CladDVD.

Hope you're not too :angry: with me... Also I'd like to thank you for your help in advance....

Below are the settings of bbMPEG (as I saw somewhere else that you asked for it) and other tabs:

Program Stream: VCD.
None of VBR, Pad, Add SVCD and Align Sequence are checked.
Write Program End code checked.
Timestamps: All frames.
Forced Mux Rate: 3528.
Pack Options: Size 2324; P/p: 1.
Buffer Sizes: Video 46; Audio1 4; Audio2 4.
Startup Delays: Pack 0; Video & Audio1 & Audio2 344.

Subtitles tab:
Rip checked, and Permanent.
Lang1: Swedish
min between subs: 100ms

CD image: VCDImager & Include Movie info checked.

Frameserver: Using AVISYNC 2.5

Encoder: TMPGEnc, CBR; Field order Auto; Motion search Normal

Resulting Log File:
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WNASPI32.DLL 4.71.1.0
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- 2003-05-10 09:03:36
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2VCD ver. 1.1.3 build 2
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 2003-05-10 09:03:39
- Analyzing subtitles
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Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x26 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x27 Language: English
Subtitle found (not in ifo file): StreamID: 0x28 Language: Unknown
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x28 Language: Unspecified
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x20 Language: Svenska
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x21 Language: Norsk
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x22 Language: Suomi
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x23 Language: Dansk
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x24 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x25 Language: Islenska

Executing subtitle selection/verification.
Subtitle selection/verification accepted.
1 subtitle streams selected.
Saving Subtitles ini file
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- 2003-05-10 09:03:49
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[C:\Mina Dokument\Mina bilder\Movies\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[C:\Mina Dokument\Mina videoklipp\dvdrip\DVD-DIE_ANOTHER_DAY_DISC1\VTS_01_1.vob,C:\Mina Dokument\Mina videoklipp\dvdrip\DVD-DIE_ANOTHER_DAY_DISC1\VTS_01_2.vob,C:\Mina Dokument\Mina videoklipp\dvdrip\DVD-DIE_ANOTHER_DAY_DISC1\VTS_01_3.vob,C:\Mina Dokument\Mina videoklipp\dvdrip\DVD-DIE_ANOTHER_DAY_DISC1\VTS_01_4.vob,C:\Mina Dokument\Mina videoklipp\dvdrip\DVD-DIE_ANOTHER_DAY_DISC1\VTS_01_5.vob,C:\Mina Dokument\Mina videoklipp\dvdrip\DVD-DIE_ANOTHER_DAY_DISC1\VTS_01_6.vob,C:\Mina Dokument\Mina videoklipp\dvdrip\DVD-DIE_ANOTHER_DAY_DISC1\VTS_01_7.vob]
Framerate: 25000
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 2003-05-10 09:08:06
- Free on drive C: 14013.71 mb
- Extracting the subtitles.
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Subtitle extraction finished. Extracted these subtitles:
SVCD Stream no: 1 Language: Svenska Num. of subs: 747

Saving Subtitle Timecodes.
Permanent subtitles.
Saving Subtitles ini file
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- 2003-05-10 09:15:27
- Free on drive C: 14001.12 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: C:\Mina Dokument\Mina bilder\Movies\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: 0 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 2003-05-10 09:21:42
- Free on drive C: 13515.96 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Encoding Audio. Filename: C:\Mina Dokument\Mina bilder\Movies\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "C:\Mina Dokument\Mina bilder\Movies\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "C:\MINADO~1\MINABI~1\Movies\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "C:\MINADO~1\MINABI~1\Movies\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -s surround -g max ) -shibatch( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 224 -m s )
Audio conversion of C:\Mina Dokument\Mina bilder\Movies\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 2003-05-10 09:48:20
- Free on drive C: 13273.69 mb
- Video Encoding using TMPGEnc
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Saving Subtitle Timecodes.
Permanent subtitles.
- Encoding C:\Mina Dokument\Mina bilder\Movies\AviSynth_Script_file.avs
StreamSectors: 2313560592
AudioSectors: 257854772
VideoPAPO: 31843980
ScanOffsetBytes: 0
SeqAligningBytes: 0
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 12
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 1.00
PureMPEGStream: 2023861828.00
Seconds: 9086.20
CalcMPEGStream: 2023861828.00
Frames: 227030
CDSize: 740.00
Number of CDs: 3
Cut point 735.00
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program\DVD2SVCD\TMPGenc\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\Mina Dokument\Mina bilder\Movies\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

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- 2003-05-10 11:31:41
- Free on drive C: 12028.66 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 2003-05-10 11:31:44
- Free on drive C: 12028.65 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 2003-05-10 11:31:47
- Free on drive C: 12028.65 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 2003-05-10 11:31:49
- Free on drive C: 12028.65 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 735 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Mina Dokument\Mina bilder\Movies\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 2003-05-10 11:37:42
- Free on drive C: 10521.45 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDImager
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Executing VCDImager. Commandline:
"C:\Program\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDImager.exe" --type=vcd2 --cue-file="C:\Mina Dokument\Mina bilder\Movies\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="C:\Mina Dokument\Mina bilder\Movies\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" --iso-volume-label=VCD1 --progress --add-file="C:\Mina Dokument\Mina bilder\Movies\SVCDInfo.txt",EXTRA/VCDINFO.TXT "C:\Mina Dokument\Mina bilder\Movies\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg"
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- 2003-05-10 11:40:26
- Free on drive C: 9775.05 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDImager
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Executing VCDImager. Commandline:
"C:\Program\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDImager.exe" --type=vcd2 --cue-file="C:\Mina Dokument\Mina bilder\Movies\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="C:\Mina Dokument\Mina bilder\Movies\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" --iso-volume-label=VCD2 --progress --add-file="C:\Mina Dokument\Mina bilder\Movies\SVCDInfo.txt",EXTRA/VCDINFO.TXT "C:\Mina Dokument\Mina bilder\Movies\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg"
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- 2003-05-10 11:43:29
- Free on drive C: 9028.63 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDImager
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Executing VCDImager. Commandline:
"C:\Program\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDImager.exe" --type=vcd2 --cue-file="C:\Mina Dokument\Mina bilder\Movies\CD_Image_File_CD3.cue" --bin-file="C:\Mina Dokument\Mina bilder\Movies\CD_Image_File_CD3.bin" --iso-volume-label=VCD3 --progress --add-file="C:\Mina Dokument\Mina bilder\Movies\SVCDInfo.txt",EXTRA/VCDINFO.TXT "C:\Mina Dokument\Mina bilder\Movies\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 2003-05-10 11:43:36
- Free on drive C: 8989.36 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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[winxi]

Hello!

Almost all settings are the standard ones as the program was installed (the latest version). I have tried with JB-Die Another Day, which previoulsy was ripped with CladDVD.

Rip either using internal routines of DVD2SVCD or vstrip. External Rippers are known to cause sync issues, like you have described.

greets, winxi

[sackese]

WOW!

What a quick reply! I'm amazed :cool: !

Thanks I'll try that!

BTW I looked at the movie, as it has some odd things , like built-in crew comments (alternating comment/movie), and yes there they were. Is there any way of removing them?

Oh, and the resulting files (MUX/CUE/BIN) are garbage, right?

Thanx again!

[winxi]

BTW I looked at the movie, as it has some odd things , like built-in crew comments (alternating comment/movie), and yes there they were. Is there any way of removing them?
If the subtitles are hardcoded in the video, you can´t get rid of them, if they are selectable, just don´t select them in DVD2SVCD.
Oh, and the resulting files (MUX/CUE/BIN) are garbage, right?
I don´t really know what you mean. I would suggest, you rip the dvd again, using DVD2SVCD, and start the whole process again.

winxi

[sackese]

If the subtitles are hardcoded in the video, you can´t get rid of them, if they are selectable, just don´t select them in DVD2SVCD.
Sorry, I was too unclear. They have some kind of "zoom-out" in the picture, where they minimize the play into one corner and insert filmed comments by the actors/director/etc.

/sacke