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Nemesis7
9th May 2003, 00:53
I recently 'switched' over to XviD (not completely) since I've done a encode of *** ******** and I must say I was VERY impressed by the detail which remained with XviD. But now I am encoding *********, and I did an XviD encode as well as a DivX 5.05 encode, and when playing on tv or monitor, DivX just looks better (yes I do use FFDshow for XviD, and tried every possible setting). I tried the scene where Gandalf falls down with the firemonster (in the beginning) and Xvid looks bad while playing. But when I compared the both in VirtualDubMod, XviD was better, so I changed the XviD FourCC code to XviD and let the DivX decoder handle it, and it looked superb!

So I was wondering how many people actually encode in XviD and use the DivX decoder, because the deblocking and deringing of the DivX decoder looks way better to me.
What other options are there for me?

Edit: My bad, on the monitor it looks as bad as divx, too blurry. On tv its good tho.

*Removed Film Names, just in case*

sungey
9th May 2003, 15:20
i do. most of the time i encode with xvid and use DX50 fourcc .. but when watching .. i always turn off the post-processing settings and still look good.

lamer_de
9th May 2003, 15:27
EDIT: some remarks removed ;)

I never use postprocessing, so I didn't noticed that Effect. My TV is enough postprocessing for me :p

CU,
lamer_de

mf
9th May 2003, 15:28
Originally posted by lamer_de
Better read forum rule 6 again :devil:
You need to read it more closely. He's not linking, not asking, and not offering. :rolleyes:

Nic
9th May 2003, 15:52
Well: "No warez, cracks, serials or illegally obtained movies"
Means exactly that, he doesnt need to be linking, asking, etc. for it to break rule 6. Mentioning is enough.

"so I changed the XviD FourCC code to XviD and let the DivX decoder handle it"
Do you mean you changed it to DivX ?

If you tried in VirtualDubMod then the dshow filter probably wasn't used. This means its probably not the filter, but the colorspace.

Try my colorspacetest app, to see what colorspaces are being outputted when using DivX FourCC and the XviD FourCC.
( http://nic.dnsalias.com/ColorspaceTest.exe )

-Nic

temporance
9th May 2003, 16:30
How do you guys know that Nemesis7 doesn't work for Miramax, or Blockbuster -- someone with legal access to new movies???

I don't think Rule 6 applies :)

Nic
9th May 2003, 16:34
For now it doesn't (I haven't issued a strike or closed the thread have I? ;) )...So we'll forget about that. But may ill remove the name he mentions.

-Nic

EDIT: ok, Nemeisis & lamer_de Ive removed the names of the films mentioned in your threads. They maybe pirate copies in which case they cant be mentioned here ! So it has been removed just in case.
(If you think this is unfair or injust then take it up with me, another moderator here, or Doom9)

Wormz
9th May 2003, 16:43
@Nic: I downloaded your colorspace tester just to try it, and the first file I open always uses YV12, then any files from then on use YUY2. Is this normal?

I'm using the latest ffdshow alpha to decode all of these files.

Nic
9th May 2003, 18:30
Hmmmm, Thats not normal, but it must be the case :confused:

Ill look into it anyway :)

-Nic

Emp3r0r
9th May 2003, 19:42
Nic, this same thing happens on my computer with Geforce3. Is it possible for your decoder to default to YUY2 (with a checkbox) or should I go with ffdshow "use xvid decode" route since it has the colorspace checkboxes already? Thanks

Wormz
9th May 2003, 21:49
I have a GeForce3 as well. Will I get worse quality because of this?

sungey
9th May 2003, 23:12
i think its normal when the first avi opened is reported to be in YV12 and any avi opened after that at the same time are YUY2 ... i think many graphic card cant do multiple YV12 at once ...

Wormz
10th May 2003, 00:01
Originally posted by sungey
i think its normal when the first avi opened is reported to be in YV12 and any avi opened after that at the same time are YUY2 ... i think many graphic card cant do multiple YV12 at once ...

I'm not talking about at the same time. Thanks for the help though.

Jehovantodistaja
10th May 2003, 00:09
Why is everyone so hysterical bout "WaReZ". I bet half the people posting here are in some group or something...

Nic
10th May 2003, 00:33
@Jehovantodistaja: With that attitude you won't last here long.

The threads gone off topic and has already caused too much trouble.

Closed.

-Nic

@Wormz: No you shouldn't get worse quality, especially if you cant notice a problem. Ill look into it though :)

Wormz
10th May 2003, 01:45
I did a couple tests and playing the files in WMP, the colorspace is always YV12, so I've got nothing to worry about. Thanks for the help. :D