New Product "Copies Anything"

[ashley]

Anyone tried it.


Taken from the website

Software Features
. Hi-Speed copy of 9GB dual-layer DVD onto standard 4.7 GB recordable discs
. True 1:1 duplication of any DVD to a recordable DVD disc
. Retain complete menu and navigation structure on DVD-Video copies
. Create backup Video Game copies of discs for console game systems and PC.

Anyone tried it

http://www.copiesanything.com/

[mrbass]

Domain Name: COPIESANYTHING.COM
Registrar: REGISTER.COM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.register.com
Referral URL: http://www.register.com
Name Server: NS1.RACKSHACK.NET
Name Server: NS2.RACKSHACK.NET
Status: ACTIVE
Updated Date: 17-feb-2003
Creation Date: 17-feb-2003
Expiration Date: 17-feb-2004

QOJ, LLC
Tech Support
301 W. 21st Street, Suite #3C
NY, NY 10011
US
Phone: (646) 498-4406
Email: copiesanything@yahoo.com

[mrbass]

Nevermind....rackshack.net doesn't care. Buy away....works as advertised :rolleyes:

[jhmac]

I can't beleive these people trying to sell copyright software as their own and bundled freeware. is there an infomecial showing people how to get rich by selling software you have no claim to out of a one bedroom apartment. "Tiny little ads on the internet"...

[KungFuCow]

I see he pulled the download. What was in the bundle?

[mrbass]

Rackshack REFUSES to shut him down....lol....screw it...Crime does pay...believe you a me.


From: Everyones Internet Abuse Team <abuse@ev1.net>
Thank you for bringing this complaint of copyright material to our
> attention, however, we need more information. Below you will find exactly
> what we need for a complete DMCA complaint, as set forth by the DMCA act of
> 1998, which may be found at
blah blah blah blah blah blah

> --
> Regards,
> Andrew
> Abuse Team
> dmca@ev1.net

[mpucoder]

DMCA? Is that all they will respond to? This has nothing to do with DMCA. However, from a previous experience of mine reporting copyright infringment, U.S. law allows service providers to ignore complaints about copyright infringment by their subscribers unless the complaint is made by the copyright holder. I think it's stupid, but then, so are most laws.

[mrbass]

yep...pinnaclesys.com probably won't do something for a month or so. Anyway I put all the info up at my site...emails from rackshack etc.

http://www.mrbass.org

I would post a link to download it.....but I can't since doom9 doesn't support warez links and rightly so.

DMCA certainly could apply is this case, however ..my isp would shut me down immediately if I hosted any warez on my site. What I should do though is get a website at rackshack and offer some warez and see how long it takes for them to shut me down. I'll even not charge for it. Something I might just do.

[mrbass]

Pinnacle said they will take action. Guess it was a matter that had to wait till Monday till the corporate office was open.

[ravenone_2000]

Just curious, but how can you tell its warez or a copy of IC ? Did their site change from what you looked at earlier? I just went to it for kicks and my novice eyes can't see anything to point to what software they ripped off.

Any tips to avoid these types of scams for us novices?

[mrbass]

Their site hasn't changed ...and no they haven't pulled the download. You can put bogus info name, address, etc. but need to put in a valid credit card. I would give out a link but can't since it's warez. We'll see how long it takes Pinnacle to shut them down. I'm guessing sometime this week.

So what happens...nothing really the guy just changes his name of the product again, gets new domain name, retypes html and is at it again with another isp. Unless of course Pinnacle trys to prosecute the rich scammer.

[mpucoder]

Well, moving around does slow these guys down. After all, they need to attract visitors in order to scam them. That means advertising, spamming, or getting indexed on search engines (which you may now see the wisdom of the delay virtually all of them have in getting indexed)

edit: Strange, it seems they also ripped off the license agreement, this is from the download page:
"The limited license granted to you is personal and non-transferable. You are expressly prohibited from giving or disclosing the registration code to any other person or otherwise making it available to the public. CopiesAnything uses IP tracking to prevent unauthorized copying or distribution of the software. Any serial number relating to CopiesAnything that is shared via the internet will be instantly disabled and you will not be entitled to any refund."

[ravenone_2000]

I still don't see how you know this is a scam. Did you buy a copy and find out its just a re-package of IC ?

I remember when dvdXCopy came out a lot of people screamed it was a repackaged shareware.

Just curious as to how you so certain that its a rip off.:confused:

[mrbass]

guess you haven't read my homepage yet..check there and see the screenshots.

Anyway the best advice to not get ripped off with dvd copy software is easy:

1) If it doesn't have a demo to download and requires you to buy it to try it.

2)If it doesn't show screenshots (photos of product boxes made with photoshop doesn't cut it.) Even if it does have screenshots they still can change the name of the product with a hex editor but at least most will know it's a scam so usually they avoid this at all costs.

3) If your rich and ignorant (ignorant and stupid are two totally separate things) then go for it and support the scammers out there.

What strikes me is so many are willing to pony up $99 here, $49 here but when some freeware author asks for $10 donation so few seem to have money at the time. Quite odd.

[rhobite]

Here's another one: DVD Copy Decrypter (http://www.dvdcopydecrypter.com/)

Gee, do those screenshots look familiar? The vultures who make DVD Squeeze hacked DVD Shrink to change the text, and now they are selling it.

[ravenone_2000]

mrbass,

Thanks for the clarification. I had not seen your site with the better info. Sorry.

[jzaman]

Originally posted by mrbass
What strikes me is so many are willing to pony up $99 here, $49 here but when some freeware author asks for $10 donation so few seem to have money at the time. Quite odd.

So true, mrbass. I've donated to every author that wrote some good code to simplify my life. The author of ImgTool sent this to me. It sums up the situation and confirmed to me that this is always the right thing to do.
__________________________________________________________________
Thank you very much for donation for ImgTool. Most people only
download and leave my page...
Just for info: until now only 9 people donate all in all 78$ and
ImgTool was downloaded almost 30000 times...

So you see your are a real hero ;) !

Thank you again and Greets from Germany,
CouJo
___________________________________________________________________

[mrbass]

crap didn't know that...alright I'll pony up some money for imgtool.

I think the mentality goes something like this "this program is so popular that a few hundred I'm sure have already donated." You shouldn't feel obligated to 'donate' to an author of freeware but if you use the program regularly then you probably should feel just a tad guilty. Donating can only help encourage further improvement.

Everyone person who ever wrote to me (ok there's only been a few) wanted to donate a few bucks I directed them to some freeware dvd programs to donate to.

edit: ok just donated $20 to the coujo...imgtool is awesome..saves me time by not having to drag and drop and ejects the DVD.. 'what a concept'.
my guide with imgtool
http://www.mrbass.org/dvdburn

[mrbass]

check this part of their legal disclaimer on their homepage

"Please also note, by purchasing CopiesAnything, you agree to comply with this policy, and to only attempt to gain a refund through these means. You agree not to attempt to charge back your credit card, and agree that if you can not abide by this policy, you will not purchase CopiesAnything.

freaking classic....never seen such a whacked out disclaimer..this guy snorts cocaine and pulls hangers through his nose at talent shows.


it gets better

CopiesAnything uses IP tracking to prevent unauthorized copying or distribution of the software.

Any serial number relating to CopiesAnything that is shared via the internet will be instantly disabled and you will not be entitled to any refund.

Refund Policy
Due to the fact that we are giving out a piece of software that could be copied and cloned after purchase, refunds are given at the discretion of management.

All refunds requests must come within 7 days of the original sale.

I, <enter name> certify that I am legitimately unable to use your product, and wish to obtain a refund. I also certify that I will instantly delete CopiesAnything and any incentives, free or otherwise, purchased with it immediately upon receiving a refund. My reason for requesting this refund is as follows:
<enter detailed reason>
Sincerely,
<enter name>
===========================

I'm extremely scared of that IP Tracking feature..oh no please don't disable my CopiesAnything for I do not know what I do.
Oh boy ..I think I best reformat my hard drive before Tom Cruise comes swinging down into my house cuz I shared their warez with PinnacleSys Inc. I better run cuz I can't hide.

[mrbass]

I was never able to shut down this scam website...tried as I might but finally maybe and hopefully this lawsuit will. We can only hope.

September 22, 2003
"Hollywood studios Paramount Pictures and 20th Century Fox sued a handful of small software companies Wednesday, alleging that their distribution of DVD-copying software violates copyright law.

Hollywood studios Paramount Pictures and 20th Century Fox sued a handful of small software companies Wednesday, alleging that their distribution of DVD-copying software violates copyright law.


The studios filed suit against Tritton Technologies, QOJ, World Reach and Proto Ventures in New York federal court, asking for unspecified damages and a court-ordered halt to the distribution of the various software packages.
Tritton released its DVD CopyWare software, created by an affiliated European company, to mainstream retail channels in August. The other companies distribute largely online, through Web sites including QOJ's copiesanything.com and World Reach's dvdfastcopy.com. "

excerpted text from here
http://www.dvdinfoworld.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=546&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

[JonRead]

Have you seen the TM marks beside some of their names ? They have a TM beside "Video Games", haha, yeah like they trademarked the phrase "Video Games".

One thing though, do these people resell other peoples packages ? Could they possibly be legit like DVD2One, Shrink and the others ? Just that the screenshot doesn't look like any other software I know. I know you said visit your site to check but I couldn't see any mention of it (no doubt my bad eyesight)

Oh and something rather ironic, just went to your website, and it seems Google are posting adverts at the top for the repackaged DVD software bundles that you are firmly against :) I guess you didn't put them there ? How did Google ads appear there ? Do they offer free webhosting now ?

[mrbass]

Originally posted by JonRead
One thing though, do these people resell other peoples packages ?

Oh and something rather ironic, just went to your website, and it seems Google are posting adverts at the top for the repackaged DVD software bundles that you are firmly against :) I guess you didn't put them there ? How did Google ads appear there ? Do they offer free webhosting now ?
yes copiesanything.com sells a warez version of instantcopy. I never heard back from Pinnacle's 'legal department'.

About google ads..yes I'm a hypocrite. 3 weeks ago I was asking for people to host some of my guides because I couldn't afford webhosting any longer. I couldn't get anyone. So I put up google ads (text only..no banners or popups) and that covers my webhosting costs now which quadrupled. I certainly hope if they read all those guides then wouldn't turn around and go buy one of those 'other' dvd copy packages. But then again I can't say anything about the google ads on my webpage....like please click this or don't click those. It's against the policy.

[Derrow]

I just got a reply from this company:

I have forwarded your email to Carlos Moreno at Carlos@Cydoor.com
Customer Service
www.copiesanything.com

Win a Digital Camera !
www.picturemorphing.com


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: IfoEdit and VobEdit
From: Derrow <derrow@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, October 3, 2003 5:33 pm
To: customerservice@copiesanything.com

It came to my attention that you are selling my tools
IfoEdit and VobEdit which are freeware and
copyrighted.

I give you 24 hours to remove my tools out of your
products.


Derrow

[mrbass]

Just so you know it took me 3 or 4 months fighting this company with my credit card. I knew it was a scam when I purchased it. For name, address, zip and everything else I put fff ff f fff f f f. The only real thing I put was my cc# and exp date. I'm just glad they're getting sued now by the MPAA. I never could get stupid rackshack to shut them down either.

Nothing really ever happened I don't think with Pinnacles legal dept.
http://webboard.pinnaclesys.com/read_messages.asp?lng=1&WebboardID=1&ForumID=877&ThreadID=139968

[papillon]

Looks like Derrow is striking back...
http://www.ifoedit.com/

[Derrow]

Thank you all guys very much for your help.
We did it, the site copiesanything is now shutdown :)

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=63304

[CouJo]

OK, there is another story about DVD Echo ...

Do you like to read some mails :D ...

OK, here you go:

Hello,

again and again there are people making money with other peoples work...
I'm the author of ImgTool and you sell ImgTool as part of your DVD Echo! But you have never asked me about that...

So I forbid you the use of ImgTool in a comercial product! ImgTool is Freeware but this doesn't mean you can distribute it without the right I have to grant.

The idea of freeware is to give people good software for free and not to give unscrupulously people software to make money!

Regards,
_ Jörg Neubert (aka CouJo)
_ Author of ImgTool
_ http://www.coujo.de


... the answer was:

Dear CouJo

We do not sell freeware.

If you read the service agreement you will know that we just give a life
time support and a User guide on how to make backup copy of DVD movies.

We did not change the interface or any thing.
Your tool and all other tools as is.
Every one can see in the about who is the author and every thing the
same.
We charge money for the service plus the user's guide and most customers
know that because they can see them self that it is freeware.

On the top of all that believe it or not when we started this we did
contact all the authors of every tool and ended up with no reply's and a
bad comments about us on there websites.

Finally I want to say ,that we are sorry if this is bothered you and
believe it or not very soon we are no longer going to sell dvdecho
service for legal issues.

I will wait for your reply.


... and I tried another mail:

Hello,

believe it or not I've never get a message that asks for the
permission to use ImgTool in the DVDEcho...

There is no way to test DVDEcho software and therefor I can't say that
everything is in the tools. But I have never found any text on your
page that says "all used tools are freeware and you only pay for
support".

Believe it or not but I think the only idea behind DVDEcho was to make
money and not to give support on Freeware tools (I got many support
requests of DVDEcho users...).

...and - believe it or not - you know that I'm right.

btw. If DVDEcho were Freeware I've never mailed you about the
permission... believe it or not!

Greets, CouJo!


...and the last reaction:

Hi,
As I said we will not sell DVDEcho any more any way because of the
legality of DVD copy.
You can check the website and you will know that.

So there is nothing to worry about any more, no freeware no support no
nothing.

I'm not sure why you didn?t get that email 6 months ago but it doesn?t
matter any more.
Good luck and keep the good work you have a great product.


...and the site "Buy" was closed...

Greets, CouJo!

[Derrow]

Wow, that sounds exactly the same replys that I've got from copiesanything:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62962

It looks like DVDEcho and Copiesanything are the same people.