There's any way to deinterlace properly the Evangelion DVDs from ADV?

[madman80]

Hi. I've tried to deinterlace the Neon Genesis Evangelion DVDs from ADV but there're ghost images always. I've read that ADV boys didn't do a good interlace from the master copy. If anyone had tried to Rip this DVDs please tell me what's the better script to deinterlace it and see the minimum ghost arctifacts.
And, what script you'll use to convert it from NTSC to PAL?
Thanks in advice

[Awatef]

ADV is using the old crappy analog telecine NTSC master.
Analog telecine is not reversible, so you can't IVTC those DVDs properly.
What you can do is:
1) Apply simple deinterlacing with blend (more ghosts to hunt you :D)
2) Apply IVTC with chances to get smooth playback *sometimes*. You will get rid of some ghosts, but you'll add others as you must deinterlace after IVTC.
3) Use the bob method that way:
Bob()
Decimate()
SelectEvery(2,1)
LanczosResize(320,240)
This is the best solution motion wise, with the least amount of ghosting, but with a little bit line jitter (clearly visible on overlays)
4) sell your ADV DVDs and get the japanese Box coming June 25 which will be progressive and remastered! ;)

[madman80]

Thanks for your answer. I think that your script is just to deinterlace. But what about to convert to PAL?
I've 2 scripts that work right, I can't see the difference between them. What do you think is better?

the first one:

LoadPlugin("mpegdecoder.DLL")
LoadPlugin("DECOMB.DLL")
mpegsource("vts_01_1.d2v")
Telecide()
Decimate(5)
AssumeFPS(25,1,True)
SeparateFields()
SelectEvery(2,0)
LanczosResize(352,288)



The second one:

LoadPlugin("mpegdecoder.DLL")
mpegsource("vts_01_1.d2v")
bob()
LanczosResize(768,576)
converttoyuy2()
ConvertFPS(50)
SeparateFields()
SelectEvery(4,0,3)
Weave()
LanczosResize(352,288)

[Awatef]

Apparently, you wanna make VCD.

I'll better go with:

Separatefields()
selectevery(12,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,11)
Weave()
FieldDeinterlace(full=true,dthreshold=0)
LanczosResize(352,288)
AssumeFPS(25)

the assumefps command will accelerate from 24.975 to 25fps

or for better motion with light line jitter:

Bob()
Decimate()
SelectEvery(2,1)
LanczosResize(352,288)
AssumeFPS(25)

Here assumefps will accelerate from 23.976 to 25fps.

[Pen-Pen]

as I've already replied to one or two threads like yours : my answer to the Evangelion problem is :

MANUAL IVTC with TMPGEnc

THAT'S THE ONLY way to get rid of both the ghosting and the ugly artifacts on top and bottom of the screen (these artifacts are often 20 or 30 pixels wide, so there's no way to remove them with some cropping)

but manually ivtc 26 episodes will take you months, so I think Awatef's 4th suggestion is best :) (why the **** did I buy this so-called "Perfect Edition" too ??? :sly: )

[Awatef]

@ Pen-Pen
You won't completely get rid of the ghosting even with manual IVTC, because there is blends within the fields.

[Pen-Pen]

you obviously didn't try TMPGEnc per-frame deinterlace method :D

I'm pretty sure it gives you better result than any automatic method (eventhough I didn't test them all)

anyway, an encode of these DVD with the artifacts that show up at every single scene change is just unacceptable when you want some quality, that's the only reason why I'm using manual IVTC ;)