DVDShrink trying to be sold

[stopthepain]

I saw this on the DVDshrink board and thought it was worth repeating (this was originally posted by shrinkfan:

Warning http://www.dvdcopydecrypter.com/ is stealing DVDShrink
Warning!!!
http://www.dvdcopydecrypter.com/
is stealing DVDShink and selling it online for profit!!

dvdcopydecrypter site does not even have any legitimate contact
details. Please refer to the following "whois" search result.

Sure, this company is importing "Free" software and trying to
make a fortune out of it.

Please be aware!!!!

Organization:
A Best Imports
Pablo Valdez
645 Springfield Ct.
Roselle, IL 60172
US
Phone: 775-628-5365
Email: genericdork@hotmail.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: DVDCOPYDECRYPTER.COM

Created on..............: Mon, Dec 16, 2002
Expires on..............: Tue, Dec 16, 2003
Record last updated on..: Tue, Mar 04, 2003

Administrative Contact:
A Best Imports
Pablo Valdez
645 Springfield Ct.
Roselle, IL 60172
US
Phone: 775-628-5365
Email: genericdork@hotmail.com

Technical Contact:
A Best Imports
Pablo Valdez
645 Springfield Ct.
Roselle, IL 60172
US
Phone: 775-628-5365
Email: genericdork@hotmail.com

Zone Contact:
A Best Imports
Pablo Valdez
645 Springfield Ct.
Roselle, IL 60172
US
Phone: 775-628-5365
Email: genericdork@hotmail.com

Domain servers in listed order:

AUTH1.NS.NYI.NET 64.90.175.14
AUTH2.NS.NYI.NET 64.90.175.18

Register your domain name at http://www.register.com

[MackemX]

welcome to the boards stopthepain

when I saw this ripoff I posted everywhere

DVDShrink forum (http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19623)

Doom9 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51591)

DVDHelp (http://www.dvdrhelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=154505) - which I had a laff with cos of jarvis1781's childish behaviour & love of the CAPS LOCK button and eventually between us managed to get the thread locked :D

its not the 1st time these guys have done this either as people have been aware of the scam for a while, it's just the masses didn't know until now

so spread the word about these cowboys so no-one will be duped into forking out money for free software

even the version of Nero is a trial!

[Doom9]

I have just contacted the author and it's indeed a ripoff.. they have no rights to sell dvd shrink under another name.

[mrbass]

My brother-in-law has friends that make wads of money off of internet stuff. Scams...that's in the eye of the beholder. I would never want to get involved because I believe that information should be free. Notice I said information not all programs.

If someone wants to charge $99 to sell dvd backup bundle of software and spends some money or has the know how to get it up in the top search engines then they have every right to do so.

However, if dvdshrink license prohibits selling then that's definitely a no no but in the end they'll most likely get away with it. BTW, my brother-in-law used camtasia to capture how to put a website with domain name together and get hosted for a year into an .avi movie. Guess how much he charges. $59 for that .avi file. Now I won't even tell you how many people pony up the money for it but if I did you'd be in utter disbelief. There's more suckers out there than people in the know.

I feel that it's a ripoff but if people are willing to pay for it there will always be a market for it and FTC is more interested in spam at the moment then copyright infrigement of dvd software.

Here's the biggest scam of them all dvdxcopy. No where on their pages do they say it takes two blank DVD-Rs to backup your DVD most find that out AFTER they have purchased the software. I've talked to quite a few people that spent $99 then find the free software out there and like it much better. Problem is now they've spent $99 and gave it to crooks like 321 Studios and don't have money to donate to sites like doom9 or dvdhelp or to authors of free programs because they wasted $99. DVDXCOPY they said sold well over 150,000 copies that is $99 x 150,000 = $14,850,000 or $14 million dollars. And you wonder if they had the money to fly Derrow over there to California to work for them. Of course they did.

Only way to combat this would be to donate some money to free software authors and perhaps they could spend a bit of money to either advertise their free software on google or get it up in the search list hopefully in front of the scammers. Most likely this won't happen though.

[MackemX]

mrbass, I agree there is not really much legally wrong with packaging freebies and including a menu & guide and charging for it

this is what 321studios done in the early days anyway

I didn't know of any free DVD splitters that include menu's (please tell me cos I've missed something that's free and wouldn't mind a copy :))

but do you realise exactly what DVSqueeze have done and how it is wrong

it's not just a ripoff but it's the fact they have renamed stuff cos DVDShrink is shown to be called DVDCopyDecrypter

the DVDSqueeze box is actually Ulead's DVD Movie Factory's box
Ulead (http://www.dacs.org/images/ulead_dvd_movie_factory_box.JPG)

DVDSqueeze (http://www.dvdsqueeze.com/boxshots1.jpg)

and they have also modded EasyDivx
EasyDivx (http://netti.nic.fi/~temp/easydivx/guide/step1.gif)

DVDSqueeze (http://www.famousitalian.com/step01.gif)

Nero is just the trial version or upgrade though they see it fit to charge $20 for an already free trial or free upgrade on the purchase page (http://www.dvdsqueeze.com/ordering.htm)

taken from http://www.dvdsqueeze.com/packages.htm
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now do you see the big issue about these crooks?

I'm not against anyone making a buck but taking something (especially a free program) then renaming/modding it and reselling it as part of a packkage is completely wrong no matter what anyone says

p.s. anyone wanna buy my copy of Windas XP :D

[mrbass]

true about dvdxcopy but they sure are deceitful in the advertising. Kinda like in the movie "Falling Down" when he walks into that hamburger joint and shoots his uzi off cuz he's sees this huge poster of a juicy burger and instead gets a pancake like burger. The biggest downside is that it takes two DVDs and no where do they mention it. They figure only a few will argue and do charge backs on their credit cards which I would have done had I bought that software.

True it's totally a an unlawful act in this case but let's just say someone did know a pro-bono lawyer. I do but I know for a fact he wouldn't take this case because the chance of prosecution is less than 1%. These scammers have nothing to fear except tax fraud. But as long as they report their sales then that haven't even to fear that.

Perhaps someone should contact register.com and at least make them cancel the domains. That shouldn't be to hard to do. Although they'll just keep buying more and more domains.

As for dvdxcopy not still charging for freebies like smartripper I believe that have dvd x copy plus for $49 which is the same crap. 321 Studios I hope they lose their court case cuz they're just a bunch of crooks.

[Gil T Pleasure]

But don't you want them to legitimize backing up DVDs? By using DVDDecrypter, SmartRipper, DVDShrink, etc to backup my DVD collections, I'm actually violating the DMCA.

[int 21h]

Not everyone lives in the USA...

Not too mention, the DMCA itself says that nothing shall interfere with your rights for FairUse (i.e. backing up a legal copy of a disc you own), even circumventing a copy protection. I believe the sticky situations come into play when you assist others in circumventing copy protections.. (because you cannot verify that FairUse applies)... I have a large amount of doubts about any home video hobbyist being bothered by the majority of the DMCA, and it seems so far its only been applied with the big arm of a corporation (i.e. modchips [Microsoft], software [BSA, et al.]).

I haven't heard of even a single prosecution under the DMCA related to movies... usually when someone is blatantly violating copyright laws (i.e. selling movies to their friends or otherwise perpetuating piracy), they charge you with NET...

[Doom9]

@jarvis1781: now was there really a need to awake sleeping dogs? This thread has been untouched since April. If you try to resolve your differences in public then I have no other option but to strike you and close the thread.

[MackemX]

roflmao, I think the thread I linked to shows what I thought of you way way way back then ;)

using CAPS in your 1st reply was not very clever was it? along with your comments towards me & Gil T Pleasure. Even funnier was that you just didn't accept it was a rip off and just decided to let your mouth go even more by continuously using CAPS throughout the thread, which just shows who was childish and laughable ;). Why did you use CAPS?because I'm pretty sure you know what using CAPS means

my main issue with you was probably similar to the way I hate these 'know-it-alls' who like to bad mouth others and it's always the usual supects I seem to get involved with. That's because I don't take the crap that some seem to enjoy and I feel I have raised a few eyebrows at DVDRHelp due to debates with certain members

a classic quote - 'For every post where I tweak someone (who probably deserved it), there are 5 where I help. Cope.'

WTF? :confused:, does this mean everyone can post 5 good replies and then can flame the next?

what is the point of posting in this thread again anyway?. Are you still saying it wasn't a scam and DVDShrink basically wasn't being sold under a different name. Also being that you were right means your CAPS were totally justified and I was wrong? Or is it that you are just trying to relight an old flame?

anyway thanks for the 'laff' ;)