Please Help Newbie With Audio Sync Problem

[ben.ellis2]

Can someone please help me with my problem? I have been trying to rip a pal 16:9 dvd series onto svcd with dvd2svcd 1.1.3 build 2, but i am having problems with the audio going out of sync. It does not matter whether i just rip one chapter or one episode, the audio is always behind by about a second. I have tried changing the movie offset in bbmpeg which similar posts seem to point to, and that comes close to solving it, but not close enough, i just dont know what to do now! Below is the log files for dvd2svcd and besweet from a 3:30 minute chapter that i have just converted. Thanks in advance.

WNASPI32.DLL 4.71.2.0
Key found: D74876E801
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- 22/04/2003 00:28:32
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.1.3 build 2
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 22/04/2003 00:28:36
- Free on drive C: 19704.54 mb
- Internal rip
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Preparing vobfiles to be ripped:
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_6.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_7.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_8.vob

Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
Ripping finished. Speed: 2762

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- 22/04/2003 00:29:48
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_01_1.vob]
Framerate: 25000
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 22/04/2003 00:30:18
- Free on drive C: 19512.59 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: 400 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 22/04/2003 00:30:37
- Free on drive C: 19507.77 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Encoding Audio. Filename: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -s surround -g max ) -ota( -d 400 ) -shibatch( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 192 -m s )
Audio conversion of C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 22/04/2003 00:31:13
- Free on drive C: 19502.83 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultTitlepicture.bmp
Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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- 22/04/2003 00:31:24
- Free on drive C: 19501.76 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 833239988
AudioSectors: 5242944
VideoPAPO: 12826116
ScanOffsetBytes: 6314
SeqAligningBytes: 401315
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 4
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 300.00
PureMPEGStream: 814763294.40
Seconds: 215.48
CalcMPEGStream: 814763294.40
Frames: 5262
CDSize: 800.00
Number of CDs: 1
Cut point 795.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 5262
Anti Noise Filter: Off
Passes: 4
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2530
Avg. Bitrate: 2230
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (borders added, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
Import("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\RESAMP~1.AVS")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\AVISYN~1\Mpeg2dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
BicubicResize(480,432,0.0,0.6)
AddBorders(0,72,0,72)
ResampleAudio(44100)
----AVS End----

Closing program
CCE Max Speed: 1.250
Video Encoding finished.

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- 22/04/2003 00:46:46
- Free on drive C: 19444.21 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TitlePicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 22/04/2003 00:46:57
- Free on drive C: 19444.19 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 22/04/2003 00:47:01
- Free on drive C: 19444.15 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 22/04/2003 00:47:03
- Free on drive C: 19444.15 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 22/04/2003 00:47:27
- Free on drive C: 19382.69 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
208.509 seconds C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 22/04/2003 00:47:35
- Free on drive C: 19382.69 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 1

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VCDXBU~1.XML"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 22/04/2003 00:47:53
- Free on drive C: 19319.05 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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BeSweet v1.5b16 by DSPguru.
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Using azid.dll v1.8 (b825) by Midas (midas@egon.gyaloglo.hu).
Using Shibatch.dll v0.24 by Naoki Shibata & DSPguru (shibatch.sourceforge.net).
Using MP2enc.dll v1.129 (23/5/2002), Engine 1.129 <http://www.cdex.n3.net>.

Logging start : 04/22/03 , 00:30:42.

C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 -output C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.mp2 -logfile C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.log ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -s surround -g max ) -ota( -d 400 ) -shibatch( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 192 -m s )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
[00:00:00:000] | Output: C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.mp2
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:400] +-------- AZID -------
[00:00:00:400] | Input Channels Mode: 2/0, Bitrate: 192kbps
[00:00:00:400] | Output Stereo mode: Dolby surround compatible
[00:00:00:400] | Total Gain: 4.138dB, Compression: Normal
[00:00:00:400] | LFE levels: To LR -3.0dB, To LFE 0.0dB
[00:00:00:400] | Center mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:400] | Surround mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:400] | Dialog normalization: No
[00:00:00:400] | Rear channels filtering: No
[00:00:00:400] +------ Shibatch -----
[00:00:00:400] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:400] | Dest. Sample-Rate: 44.1KHz
[00:00:00:400] | Attenuation : 0.0db
[00:00:00:400] +------- MP2ENC ------
[00:00:00:400] | Bitrate method : CBR
[00:00:00:400] | MP2 bitrate : 192
[00:00:00:400] | Channels Mode : Stereo
[00:00:00:400] | Error Protection: Yes
[00:00:00:400] +---------------------
[00:03:30:896] Conversion Completed !
[00:03:30:896] Actual Avg. Bitrate : 192kbps
[00:00:28:000] <-- Transcoding Duration
Logging ends : 04/22/03 , 00:31:10.

[winxi]

Hello!

Sometimes, in very rare cases, the audio is out of sync and nobody knows why.
Is the audio delay progressive, or is it just always one second behind? If it´s not progressive, there is a quite simple workaround to fix it yourself. Take a closer look at the besweet - commandline. There is the following parameter:
-ota( -d 400 )
This means that there are 400 ms of silence at the beginning of the encoded audiofile. But if your audio is one second behind you might want the first second to be cut off. So change the parameter to
-ota( -d -600 )
This means to cut off the first 600 ms instead of appending 400 ms of silence, and makes 1 second in sum.
Execute the whole commandline (using in windows: start -> execute) and recover the process from muxing and cutting. Maybe you have to play around with the delay value to get your perfect sync.

greets, winxi

[ben.ellis2]

Thanks for the quick response and your helpfull information, i don't want to sound stupid but can you walk me through the process of "Execute the whole commandline (using in windows: start -> execute) and recover the process from muxing and cutting." as i dont understand how to do this. Thanks again

[winxi]

Hello!

You have to change the commandline the way i have described above. Now you can execute it by two ways:
1) Open the windows Start - menu, click at 'execute', now copy and paste the commandline and click ok.
2) Create a batch-file (extension *.bat) in an editor with the commandline as only content, save it as *.bat and doubleclik it.

In dvd2svcd you can 'recover' every finished process from any step you want. With executing the commandline you will get your new audio in sync, then you can recover the encode from muxing and cutting by clicking at recover in dvd2svcd (under the misc tab) and choosing the file of your current project. This way you won´t have to do the whole process again!

Hope this helps, winxi

[get right]

I had a delay in sound on my .bin files but not on the muxed files. I got rid of the delay by unchecking the following choises in the "CD Image" tab:
"Title picture"
"change cd picture"
"last cd picture"

[ben.ellis2]

Right i've tried creating a bat file with the commandline as the only content, but that does not seem to execute. I have also tried opening a dos prompt and pasting my command line of "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 -output C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.mp2 -logfile C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.log ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -s surround -g max ) -ota( -d -600 ) -shibatch( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 192 -m s )" into that, but it says "C:\Program' is not recognised as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file", am i doing something wrong? Thanks

[winxi]

instead of
C:\Program Files
always take
C:\PROGRA~1
and it will execute.

greets, winxi