So many One click Apps. Which one to use?

[DMagic1]

I could use a little help here. There are a few one click 1:1 copy apps now. I'm not sure what to use any more or which is better. I'm looking at the areas of speed, quality, and compatibility with players. I would like to here what others prefer and why.

[spruceland]

Me too. I heard dvd2one was the program to have, but if you wanted the menu, then Pinnacle Instant copy was the program. Now dvdshrink is out. I heard the first release was okay, but now I hear most people say that the new version is better than dvd2one. My questions:

1. dvdshrink works like dvd2one (it transcodes), the new version lets you pick the size of your dvd-r output, correct?

2.With dvdshrink you can crop your credits (does this mean you can cut them out entireley or transcode them to a lower bitrate)

3. Does dvd shrink let you copy the entire dvd incluiding menus?

4. And, can I backup episode dvds w/ dvd shrink?


As always, thanks in advance

[hakko504]

No, but there are more levels, making it easier to find a good fit. This means cutting them altogether. Yes I don't see why not (though I haven't done any that way yet.)

[amirlsm]

Originally posted by spruceland
4. And, can I backup episode dvds w/ dvd shrink?



YES, it works like magic.

[MackemX]

Originally posted by DMagic1
I could use a little help here. There are a few one click 1:1 copy apps now. I'm not sure what to use any more or which is better. I'm looking at the areas of speed, quality, and compatibility with players. I would like to here what others prefer and why.
what do you do? complete 1:1?, doctored 1:1 or movie only?

as for the following:
speed = DVDShrink
quality = IC
compatibility = ask user :)

in fact regarding speed what about actual usertime?, we know some programs are faster processing but the difference isnt that life threatening when you look at only the time to click the BIG RED BUTTON :)

Just go do something else for the extra time it's processing or do it when you sleep. Do people really need to do that many backups in a day? :confused:

lastly regarding episodic DVD's with anything apart from IC(CCE inc) then you are risky heavy quality loss depending on DVD and user opinion

[DMagic1]

True.

I think the main thing is picture quality. I don't mind waiting a little longer in order to get a better quality movie.

[herbsman]

If picture quality is the thing (but at any cost) then I might suggest Cinema Craft Encoder Pro.

User friendliness = DVD2One (it was my 1st at DVD-9 to DVD-R/RW ).

Price = DVD Shrink (it's free...the best price ever)

[spruceland]

Thanks for the answers. One last question. Between the two, which one would you go w/ dvd2one or dvdshrink? Thanks

[Dimsum]

I would say DVD Shrink - its certainly improved from v1.02 tp v1.03 and this is not to say that the DVD2One authors dont upgrade regulary - but then they charge - so are obliged too do this, where as the DVD Shrink author is working entirely for free and responds to feedback.

DVD Shrink can now match or even beat DVD2One because of the improvements in the latest v1.03. Personally, I'm not too convinced with DVD2One quality....

just my 2c anyways..

[spruceland]

Finally tried it and love it. Thanks for the advice and thanks to the author of this wonderful FREE program. Where can I send him some money? :)

[yomper]

I thought dvd2one was a little poor in picture quality on some tv series stuff,but still very fast. ic7 is my prefered choice as i can remove unwanted audios to have more room for the main movie etc.
is there any better 1 to 1 proggys that giove better quality then ic7, no saying CCE as unless i use that with dvd2dvd i havent a clue how to make 1 to 1 backups the ifo edit way...wish i could though

[DMagic1]

The only thing thats kept me from using Shrink is the shrink percentage. The choices it gives usually only ends up with a 4.06 gb movie. Thats because it would only let me pick between 20% and 30% video compression. 20% would be too big and 30% would yield a 4.06 gb movie. It should have at least a 25% selection.

[canonbeck]

Hey - if you want a one-click, top quality, movie-only copy... Look no further than chatwalkers dvd2dvdr. The CCE encoding quite simply beats the pants off anything else. Just start it off and go to work/bed. When you get back you have a perfect copy.
I've tried all the others and got nothing but gyped. This really is a 'one-click' solution.

[mrbass]

I tried dvd2dvd-r with version 1.45 back in March and had serious synch issues with audio. I noticed 1.48 was just released. I'll try it again and if I like it mirror it cuz most don't read German, me included. It's a joke trying to figure out how to register, login then download it if your don't understand German. I bet that has a lot to do with it's popularity to.

edit: here's a mirror for dvd2dvd-r 1.48 4.23MB released Apr 24th
http://www.mrbass.org/dvd2dvdr/DVD2DVDR_148.exe

[MackemX]

Originally posted by mrbass
It's a joke trying to figure out how to register, login then download it if your don't understand German. I bet that has a lot to do with it's popularity to.[/url] LOL :D

I used the translator in Google and eventually found my way to registering to download it, but it was fun doing it

and then installing it was even more fun :D

but it's great when you do get it to work

p.s. I'm still back on version 1.3.3 or something, guess it's time to update

[jzaman]

mrbass:

Thanks for the mirror to DVD2DVD-R 1.48. I put your link in my DVD2DVD-R thread (that may die from lack of interest).
I've copied many 6-7gb movies in the last week with the DVD2DVD-R/CCE Basic combo and they have not exhibited any audio sync problems. I've studied vobs with Bitrate Viewer (commercial edition)after the encoding process as well as seeing with my own eyes the clarity of a 2 pass VBR encode. I'm curious about your opinion after you give it a second look.

[thop]

how long does a dvd2dvd-r encode take on a resonably fast machine (>2ghz/2000+)?

[windtrader]

jzman - I am in the same boat. Got a bunch of movies in the 6-7gb range and want to do what you are doing but not willing to sacrifice quality. Can you describe your settings and how critical you are in terms of quality of the encode?

I have this pile of 6-7gb movies on my HD that I have not sent off to DVD-R because I really don't want to go to two DVDs and have not found a dvd-9 to dvd-5 method that doesn't trash the video quality.

DVD2ONE is fine for those movies under 5.25 - 5.5 gb. Beyond that the quality starts suffering too much for me.

Thanks,
Don

[mrbass]

I just did a movie at work Athlon 1600 and it took 5 hours. That was a 2 pass VBR. Can't check the quality cuz it's at work and I'm at home. Result of the vob files was 4.34GB. CCE RT was around 1.1.

I'm 87% done at home and doing a 4 pass VBR on 5 and 1/2 hours ago. CCE RT is 1.7 on P4 2.53Ghz.

Thing of it is I was really satisfied with CCE 4 pass doing SVCDs at 1600 bitrate. Avg bitrate for this DVD stuff is around 4000 I'm guessing. I want to do a CBR, 2 pass, 3 pass, 4 pass comparsion. I know in the CCE manual it states anything beyond 3 or 4 pass VBR you won't see the difference. I could barely, barely tell between 3 or 4 pass but remember this was at 1600 bitrate (2 hour movie on 2 SVCDs). So with this higher bitrate I wouldn't be surprised if CBR won't look fantastic. If CBR looks great than the perhaps one could do more than one movie backup per night if need be.

My guess is that CBR and 2 pass will just look great. Don't do a 1 pass because that'll result in unpredicatable file size...at least it did with DVD2SVCD.

I still think though that I will use DVDShrink if I can get the movie to Level 1 or Level 2 or of course no compression.

IC is great and all but you need to rip to hd with dvddecrypter, strip with dvdtoolbox or dvdshrink for main movie only. Then start IC.

With DVD2DVDR you put in DVD set the parameters takes about 30 secs or so then press go and 4 to 8 hours later you have your vobs and can have it shutdown your computer at the end of the process.

Stupid noob question to mpucoder or someone like that. Does DDoItFast4U & DoCCE4U do the muxing as does DVD2DVD-R? I was under the impression you'd have to add subtitles, import audio, create menus in DVD Authoring programs which is nice to know and all but I don't want to go through the torture each and every time.

Looks like I'll be doing a guide for dvd2dvd-r shortly...probably this weekend.

[mrbass]

about DoItFast4U & DoCCE4U
I just read Das UberGuide and 'Backup "Red Dragon" with DoItFast4U!, DoCCE4U, and Reauthorist'
http://dvdguides.trilight.net/

That's definitely the way to do it if you want to encode a 1:1 copy and encode movie, extras, trailers, etc. all with CCE. Still too many steps for me to wade through though (that's cool two words look almost identical).

DVD2DVD-R is definitely like DVDShrink when it has built-in ripping capability just like DVD2SVCD has always had and all three of these are basically setup and press GO then at end of process just a matter of burning the .vob files.

[canonbeck]

There is a very useful (pigeon) english forum on chatwalkers site..
Also, I use this portal for all things dvd2dvdr in english..
http://kickme.to/dvd2dvdr

So far I have tried versions 1.35 & 1.46 and had not trouble at all. I encode at 2 pass VBR with CCE SP 2.5. I've read somewhere that increasing the number of passes doesnt noticeably improve the quality at all though I'd be interested to hear opinions on VBR vs CBR.
On the subject of speed, I have a 1Ghz Athlon clocked up to 1.33 and I just did the new Harry Potter movie (around 7Gb) in 7 hours and that was with a 2x rip (DRU500ax).

I did checkout the whole doitfast4u & docce4u thing but I think that while it's fine for the pro's, it's just far too complicated for people like me with all those steps requiring user time. I havent really done all this kind of thing since before dvd2svcd came along and I think dvd2dvdr is the closest thing to that in terms of both quality and ease of use yet.

[Fmazzanti]

Originally posted by MackemX
LOL :D

I used the translator in Google and eventually found my way to registering to download it, but it was fun doing it

and then installing it was even more fun :D

but it's great when you do get it to work

p.s. I'm still back on version 1.3.3 or something, guess it's time to update

Just joined this discussion today, but really laughed at these comments 'cause I found myself in the same situation :D I must say I'm spanish, I can read/write (more less than more) english, and have tiny notioons of german, enough to understand 20% or 30% of what was written there. So I tried also google's translation, and manage to register but... man! Understanding the english translation was also a pain were the sun never shines! Actually I downloaded release 1.35, tried it and never went back to check for updates. It's true, I guess this policy of writting only german is the reason why this *amazing* prog is not really popular after all...

[jfcarbel]

Maybe someone who knows German can email the developer and ask him to make a version for English or volunteer to translate a version for english.

Sounds like its a great one click solution for CCE encodes of movies.