Wired thing's with ogg

[sekxx]

Hello everybody,
I just make a new install of windows xp pro SP1a.
And i'm not able anymore to play ogg file.
OGM file with ogg soundtrack work with no probleme, i've got the sound.
but winamp(2.9) don't play ogg file(the ogg plugin is installed)
Ogg file only(ie not in OGM) won't play in directshow either(tried with M.P.C.). that's not very fun, because all my music collection is ripped to ogg.

When I oppen an ogg file in graphedit There's no pin out of "Ogg spliter", and of course Vorbis Decoder isn't loaded.

Of course I've got the latest OggDS.
Does anybody had expiriment such a thing?

Edit: Link to GraphEdit load of Ogm & Ogg
http://www.sekxx.org/temp/OgmFiles.gif(9k)
http://www.sekxx.org/temp/OggFiles.gif(3k)

[tiki4]

Did you try to disable the ReClock filter? This overrides usually the DirectSound output and maybe that is your problem. Give a try.

tiki4

[sekxx]

Thank's,
I just try it, it doesn't work :/

[tiki4]

You are sure you did a clean install? Maybe something was broken. I can't see a reason why you shouldn't be able to play Ogg Vorbis files when you can play OGM files. Do you have any other filters that interfere with the audio output in DirectShow? E.g. DeDynamic, mpgaudio.ax, ReClock (we had that), MatrixMixer, Morgan Stream Switcher etc.

Also, did you try to switch Winamp to WAVE out?

The last thing I can think of is that your Ogg files are somehow corrupted. Maybe you take a look what ogginfo says. Sorry, if that all doesn't help you may do once more a reinstall and have a good look on what you install. Especially do not install any CodecPacks, they can seriously damage your setup.

Cheers,

tiki4

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Possibly your ogg file is corrupted?

[sekxx]

I didn't install any codec pack;
What I install:
--Reclock, that's is currently disable
--OGG-DS(Tobias)
--Divx Scizzo beta 4
--Xvid(Nic latest build)
--FFdshow
--vobsub
--&Ac3 filter
That's all (no crappy stuff like morgan stream switcher...)

Now I just tryied something, I mux together(into ogm) some avi file and one of my ogg file that don't work.
Guess what?
The output file do work(with sound of course) ;)
I give a try to ogginfo and post the result here.

[sekxx]

Here is the output of OggInfo:
R:\From-S\ExtractedAudioFiles\The Aynsley Dunbar Retaliation\To Mum, from Aynsle
y and the boys>ogginfo -v "(03) The Aynsley Dunbar Retaliation - Let it ride.ogg
"
Processing file "(03) The Aynsley Dunbar Retaliation - Let it ride.ogg"...

Warning: Hole in data found at approximate offset 4500 bytes. Corrupted ogg.
New logical stream (#1, serial: 000037ec): type vorbis
Vorbis headers parsed for stream 1, information follows...
Version: 0
Vendor: Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20020717 (1.0)
Channels: 2
Rate: 44100

Nominal bitrate: 192,003000 kb/s
Upper bitrate: 0,000000 kb/s
Lower bitrate: 0,000000 kb/s
User comments section follows...
DESCRIPTION=Exact Audio Copy
title=Let it ride
artist=The Aynsley Dunbar Retaliation
album=To Mum, from Aynsley and the boys
tracknumber=3
Vorbis stream 1:
Total data length: 6518593 bytes
Playback length: 5m:01s
Average bitrate: 172,906976 kbps
Logical stream 1 ended
Warning: Hole in data found at approximate offset 6527000 bytes. Corrupted ogg.

Ok it says corrupted ogg.
I guess I can fix my ogg collection because when i mux it to ogm it works, do you know how can I do that?
Anyway If someone could explain me what did happen I will be gratefull, because all my music is in another drive than windows, My music work last week, I put windows xp and now my ogg file are corrupted.
I really don't understand ;)

[tiki4]

I am as clueless than you are. I don't why you have corrupted Ogg files. Maybe you can pass is through the OggDS filters. Something like File Reader -> Ogg Demuxer -> Ogg Muxer -> File Writer in Graphedit. Otherwise you may want to try Cyrius OGM tools. Actually I don't know if that really helps. Does EAC produce corrupt Ogg's? Anyway, you may check your hard drive first with chkdsk. Something like 'chkdsk d: /f'. Good luck!

tiki4

[sekxx]

thank's, i will try a chkdsk,
talking about the directshow method, it will not work because there's no pin out of oggspliter.

Anyway, does someone remeber this tool that, if I remember well produce ogg 1-3% smaller with an ogg file as input(I search the forum And didn't find it).
perhap's if I send my ogg file trough this tools it will produce not corrupted data.
If somebody have a link to this tool, i'm gonna be happy ;).

[sekxx]

Ok I found a way to fix my audio collection:
Remove the tag...

Thank's to TAG:
http://www.ca5e.tk/

And to this thread that suggest the use of TAG:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?act=ST&f=9&t=2876&

[edit:>>]
Ok I made some test and use the option to just remove "id3v2" tag(The ogg file work after that).
That's great cause it's keep vorbis comment, so I still have my file "tagged".
So here is how I proceed to fix my entire collection of *.ogg (128 files)
I had unzipped tag to the directories where all the music stand's
and run a little *.bat file
Tag --removeid3v2 *.ogg --recursive

About why the *.ogg file are corrupted,
I've searched a lot, and now I remember that I moved the partition where there are with "partition magic 8".
It seems that my trouble comes from that...

[tiki4]

Congratulations!

I never thought that you may have ID3v2 tags in your Vorbis files. Don't wonder any longer, those tags are known to even corrupt MP3 files sometimes. The standard (?) seems to be very difficult to implement and lots of audio files got corrupted by using ID3v2. I never use them. For MP3 I just use ID3v1.1 and for Ogg Vorbis its own comments (and for Musepack APE2 tags).

Cheers,

tiki4

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Well known fact that id3v2 tags are evil and should be banned because they add the tags to the front of the files instead of the back like id3v1 and apev2, causing problems here and there.

[tiki4]

Hehe,

I'd like to see what PP would say in that situation. He's always going 'slightly mad' on ID3v2...

tiki4

[tangent]

Originally posted by tiki4
I'd like to see what PP would say in that situation. He's always going 'slightly mad' on ID3v2...

Get his foobar2000 player at http://foobar2000.hydrogenaudio.org
Go to configuration->playback->inputs->standard inputs->mp3 tag writing

Heh.