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irasnyd
11th April 2003, 19:44
Cool. That's definitely an added bonus.

The Robot4Rip ini file you were using should be changed to this one. The way this is set up, it will have all the program paths correct no matter where Robot4Rip is installed on the user's hard drive.

http://www.csupomona.edu/~iwsnyder/GKnot/robot4rip.rar

irasnyd

irasnyd
11th April 2003, 22:46
Can we make it possible to unselect both of the DivX5 versions? Just in case someone already has DivX on their system, and does not want to install DivX again. (Like me ;))

I really like what you've done with the codec pack.

Changelog:
-updated the icon to the sexier smooth one
-added 0.28alpha12 executable
-codec pack is unchanged from SubConscious's above

Links:
System Pack 0.28 alpha12 (http://www.csupomona.edu/~iwsnyder/GKnot/Gordian.Knot.SystemPack.0.28.alpha12.exe)
Codec Pack 0.28 alpha12 (http://www.csupomona.edu/~iwsnyder/GKnot/Gordian.Knot.Codec.Pack.0.28.alpha12.exe)
EXE-only 0.28 alpha12 (http://www.csupomona.edu/~iwsnyder/GKnot/GordianKnot.ExeOnly.0.28.alpha12.exe)

Binaries and Scripts 0.28 alpha12 (http://www.csupomona.edu/~iwsnyder/GKnot/GKnot_Binaries+Scripts_0.28alpha12.rar)

irasnyd

epere4
12th April 2003, 00:19
Wow, I believe the job you are doing here is great!!

I want to add a suggestion. Wouldn´t be good to change the installer´s name so the include something like "Inst1st" and "Inst2nd" so users have no doubt which thing has to be installed first?
i.e: "System Pack 0.28 alpha12 Inst1st"
"Codec Pack 0.28 alpha12 Inst2nd"

It is just a suggestion, because I always doubt what to install first...

CU

irasnyd
12th April 2003, 01:04
Sounds good. I always had that problem before I started actually making the installers too.

I think a good place to put the information would be on the license page of the installers. (the first page that gets displayed)

irasnyd

//edit:
I have re-uploaded the installers at the links above (names unchanged)

Changelog:
-added Robot4Rip 0.3
-Added some text to the license to state which installer should go first (in bold)

Tell me whatcha think....

TheWEF
12th April 2003, 07:12
Originally posted by irasnyd
The Robot4Rip ini file you were using should be changed to this one.

you should NOT put the ini file in the installer. with every install you would delete custom settings and audio profiles. a default ini is created automatically, if it's not found, anyway. if r4r is in the gknot folder, it will find most apps auomatically. only winrar and daemontools have to be set manually.

wef.

TheWEF
12th April 2003, 07:19
Originally posted by irasnyd
I really like what you've done with the codec pack.

please make sure that what you are doing is 100% legal.
i don't think that divx networks will be very happy to see this installer. i'm not even sure if we're allowed to offer their codec for donwload at all? i guess they don't mind as long as we don't play any tricks.
IMO the installers should come with the regular free version only. people who want to use pro have to find out themselves what to do.

wef.

irasnyd
12th April 2003, 07:19
Alright wef.

Thanks for letting me know.

I just updated and re-uploaded the packs to reflect this.

irasnyd

SubConscious
12th April 2003, 13:20
That’s a pity :(.

But I think you are right. But also I think the free version is useless because everybody want to use the pro version.

@irasnyd:
I am working on the ability to unselect both of the DivX versions.

Also I think the version of the codec pack shouldn’t change every time there is a new version of GKnot. For example lets say now is version 0.4 and any change in it should increase that version.

SubConscious
12th April 2003, 17:34
Changelog:
-added 0.28 alpha 13 executable

Links:
System Pack 0.28 alpha 13 (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/panagiopis.oikonomidis/Gordian.Knot.SystemPack.0.28.alpha13.exe)
Codec Pack 0.5 (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/panagiopis.oikonomidis/Gordian.Knot.Codec.Pack.0.5.exe)
Exe-only 0.28 alpha 13 (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/panagiopis.oikonomidis/GordianKnot.ExeOnly.0.28.alpha13.exe)

scripts + binaries (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/panagiopis.oikonomidis/GKnot_Binaries+Scripts_0.28alpha13.rar)

epere4
12th April 2003, 17:36
I have downloaded the script and binearies files (GKnot_Binaries+Scripts_0.28alpha12.rar) and created the installers myself. (I downloaded the files before the very last modifications)
No problem with that.
And I appreciate the message that now appears in the license page :-)

But when I start GKnot and try to open the Configure options of VobSub, I had an error message concerning the file C:\Program Files\GordianKnot\VSFilter.dll. The same happens when trying to Open the Cutter.

I looked into the VSFilter.dll and found out that it looked pretty much the same as the vobsub.dll that comes with the VobSub pack. So I made a backup copy of the VSFilter.dll and replace it with a copy of vobsub.dll with the name changed. I tested it and it opened well.
So I assume the file was corrupted...

But, if I was not mistaken and the file is the same as vobsub.dll, why not use the original file suplied by the vobsub pack? (which, additionally, has different versions for Win9x and for WinNT).
When the VobSub is installed, it creates an entry in the registry that tells where the vobsub is located:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\VobSub\InstallDir

I believe that previus versions of GKnot (those made by theWeff) didn´t have the VSFilter.dll. Maybe it used the vobsub.dll as I mentioned befor, but I don´t know.

Everything else is workin fine for me, so far.

CU

len0x
12th April 2003, 17:41
Sorry about that, It's already fixed in alpha 13...

But you should not replace VSFilter with Vobsub, coz only first of them is working in YV12 mode (i.e. if you replace and try to encode it won't work)

epere4
12th April 2003, 17:46
Wow, that was a quick answer :-)
I will test the new version and let you know if somthing goes wrong.

CU

epere4
12th April 2003, 23:59
A little sugestion for people making the installers.
When you put the links to the installers and the script+binaries, can you also add a link to just the scripts files?

I am asking for these because I have a very poor internet conection (dial up modem 56k) and it takes me a lot of time to download the whole package again. If I had the scripts I could download the new programs added and add them myself to the pack.

Thanks in advance!


Edit: I forgot to mention. The new version works very well with vobsub, thanks.

irasnyd
13th April 2003, 00:17
Okay. Here are the scripts:

http://www.csupomona.edu/~iwsnyder/GKnot/GKnot_Scripts_0.28alpha13.rar

irasnyd

epere4
13th April 2003, 00:24
Thanks!!!

epere4
13th April 2003, 08:56
I have made some improvements to the script.
Basically is only one improvement. Now the codec pack has the ability to select only one or none of the DivX5 versions (you couldn´t select none of them in previus versions).

As I have a very low bandwidth conection, I can only give you the script, but I am sure one of you will compile it and upload somewhere so the others can enjoy ;)
It is based on the last pack posted by SubConscious (but I downloaded it from irasnyd´s link), so you must modify it if you want to include DivX5 Pro.

Gordian Knot Codec Pack 0.6 - Script Only (http://home.no/doom9esp/epere4/codec_pack_forGKnot_scriptonly.v0.6.rar)

CU

irasnyd
13th April 2003, 09:12
Originally posted by epere4
I have made some improvements to the script.
Basically is only one improvement. Now the codec pack has the ability to select only one or none of the DivX5 versions (you couldn´t select none of them in previus versions).

As I have a very low bandwidth conection, I can only give you the script, but I am sure one of you will compile it and upload somewhere so the others can enjoy ;)
It is based on the last pack posted by SubConscious (but I downloaded it from irasnyd´s link), so you must modify it if you want to include DivX5 Pro.

Gordian Knot Codec Pack 0.6 - Script Only (http://home.no/doom9esp/epere4/codec_pack_forGKnot_scriptonly.v0.6.rar)

CU

Nice. I like it :)

irasnyd

SubConscious
13th April 2003, 12:28
@epere4:
Very nice job man. You saved me a lot of time!!!

Link:
Codec Pack 0.6 by epere4 (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/panagiopis.oikonomidis/Gordian.Knot.Codec.Pack.0.6.exe)

epere4
13th April 2003, 16:15
Originally posted by SubConscious
@epere4:
Very nice job man. You saved me a lot of time!!!
Hehehe, I took ME a lot of time because the .onSelChange is very tricky in the way it treats the selection change. And besides that, I am pretty new to the NSIS. :D

SubConscious
14th April 2003, 13:44
Changelog:
-added 0.28 alpha 14 executable

Links:
System Pack 0.28 alpha 14 (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/panagiopis.oikonomidis/Gordian.Knot.SystemPack.0.28.alpha14.exe)
Codec Pack 0.6 (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/panagiopis.oikonomidis/Gordian.Knot.Codec.Pack.0.6.exe)
Exe-only 0.28 alpha 14 (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/panagiopis.oikonomidis/GordianKnot.ExeOnly.0.28.alpha14.exe)

Scripts (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/panagiopis.oikonomidis/Scripts_0.28alpha14.rar)

epere4
15th April 2003, 02:53
I don´t know if it was fixed on later versions, but the pack I downloaded (GKnot_Binaries+Scripts_0.28alpha12.rar) didn´t have the robot4rip_readme.txt. So when you, in Robot4Rip, go to Help->ReadMe it gives you an error concerning the missing file.

You just have to put that file in the robot4 rip folder, because the script will take *.* files from that folder.

Keep this in mind when you upgrade to robot4rip 0.4 (I have already updated but, as I told you before, my internet conection sucks :angry: ).

CU

PS: I believe this thread should be posted as Sticky, because it has important info for people installing GKnot, don´t you think?
Maybe the title could be change to something that starts with a capital letter, like "Installer for Upcoming Versions" and maybe maintained in the same way as the post "GordianKnot 0.28 alpha 14 ready for testing - XVID support is here!" (I mean, to have the latest release in the first page with the change log).

len0x
15th April 2003, 10:59
No need to make this sticky yet :)
These installers are for test use only, but public beta will be out any moment now - that'll be sticky...

len0x
15th April 2003, 11:37
Do we have full BeSweet there now ?
Coz hip.dll is still missing - should be included...

*EDIT*
Another thing: previously we had Rip-Pack and System-Pack.
Now we have Codec-Pack(which is sort of system pack) & System-Pack (which is sort of rip pack). I wonder if it's a bit confusing for those who used GK before ?

SubConscious
15th April 2003, 13:35
Originally posted by len0x

Another thing: previously we had Rip-Pack and System-Pack.
Now we have Codec-Pack(which is sort of system pack) & System-Pack (which is sort of rip pack). I wonder if it's a bit confusing for those who used GK before ?

You are right about that. From now there will be a Rip-Pack with GKnot and all the other programs and System-Pack with the codec’s.

majerle
15th April 2003, 14:32
and i prefer as is, a codec pack and a full system-rip pack.

my 2 cents.

Andres

Colyptic
15th April 2003, 15:39
Working great:)

Just tested the installers on 4 bare computers, ran comp. checks, audio/video encodes just like I expected.

As a suggestion, since ChapterXtractor.exe's Readme page relies on readme.txt to be in the same folder. Copying chapterxtractor_readme.txt to GordianKnot\readme.txt may solve a little confusion for people using ChapterXtractor for the first time.

Also same thing with robo4rip, robo4rip_readme.txt is relied upon in the same folder. Just very little cosmetic changes and doesn't hinder operation at all.

Doom9
15th April 2003, 18:49
There's pretty much everything you need in the codec pack.. except for one.. a unified playback filter. How about adding ffdshow?
Also, vstrip 0.8f is the latest version, not 0.8d. I was about to suggest its removal but since r4r has also been added to the package (sf is going to love the traffic they're getting;) it still has to remain there.

irasnyd
17th April 2003, 01:41
Originally posted by Doom9
There's pretty much everything you need in the codec pack.. except for one.. a unified playback filter. How about adding ffdshow?
Also, vstrip 0.8f is the latest version, not 0.8d. I was about to suggest its removal but since r4r has also been added to the package (sf is going to love the traffic they're getting;) it still has to remain there.

Would you like the ffdshow alpha or the stable one?

irasnyd

irasnyd
17th April 2003, 01:48
I made installers for GKnot 0.28 beta2.

Changelog:
-added 0.28 beta2 exe
-added Robot4Rip 0.4

Links:
System Pack 0.28 beta2 (http://www.csupomona.edu/~iwsnyder/GKnot/Gordian.Knot.SystemPack.0.28.beta2.exe)
Codec Pack 0.6 (http://www.csupomona.edu/~iwsnyder/GKnot/Gordian.Knot.Codec.Pack.0.6.exe)
0.28 Exe-Only (http://www.csupomona.edu/~iwsnyder/GKnot/GordianKnot.ExeOnly.0.28.beta2.exe)
Binaries + Scripts 0.28 beta2 (http://www.csupomona.edu/~iwsnyder/GKnot/GKnot_Binaries+Scripts_0.28beta2.rar)
Scripts Only 0.28 beta 2 (http://www.csupomona.edu/~iwsnyder/GKnot/GKnot_Scripts_0.28beta2.rar)

irasnyd

majerle
17th April 2003, 06:45
@irasnyd
personally i prefer alpha ( ffdshow-20030103.exe)

never got problem with xvid, just some delay on divx 5.03b4

thanks for your builds !

Andres

DaveEL
17th April 2003, 10:15
could you add the version of dvd2avi in this thread http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50777 to the installer.

DaveEL

TheWEF
17th April 2003, 11:07
Originally posted by DaveEL
could you add the version of dvd2avi in this thread http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50777 to the installer.

DaveEL

hmm... i guess it doesn't support cli, therefor robot4rip would not work any more.
also the possibility of cropping in dvd2avi would lead to a lot of confusion for newbies.
IMHO this is valuable expert stuff but should not be included in a rock solid rippack for the average user.
(btw.: usually it doesn't make sense at all to combine divx with dts sound, if you have dts equipment you better get a dvd burner as well...)

wef.

LordIntruder
18th April 2003, 11:34
Hi.


I have a question about the Rip Pack installer. Does it install everything contained in it or allow the user to select what he wants to install? I can't find the answer, if any, in all the threads.

I strongly suggest to add a note on the sourceforge on that point. Just to enlighten the user. :)

Thanks.

majerle
18th April 2003, 12:22
@LordIntruder

the installer ask for what to install, as codec-pak.

just try. and deselect what you don't want.

byez

Andres

Doom9
18th April 2003, 14:41
Would you like the ffdshow alpha or the stable one?
alpha, the stable has some issued with recent xvid builds.
And since divx 5.04 is out (and was supported throughout the beta phase already), it should replace 5.03.
Additionally, it would be nice if gknot was listed in the installed software list in the control panel to allow "regular style" deinstallation.

len0x
20th April 2003, 17:49
Codec-pack:
what happened to mutual exclusive selection between 5.0.2 and 5.0.4 ?

Rip-Pack:
since ffdshow requires another ff... it should be autoselected and diselected when checking ffdshow. Can we do that?

P.S. does latest avisynth beta is already there ?

Doom9
20th April 2003, 18:33
@len0x: actually.. the last official alpha build available on the ffdshow sourceforge page can be used without ffvfw.
I would hope that 5.04 would finally make 5.02 obsolete. I was recently talking to the developers who themselves weren't too happy with 5.03 (might be another rushed release like 5.0) and they strongly urged me to use 5.04 for any upcoming codec comparison. Yet, I'm not much of an encoding guy and especially not DivX5 so I can't tell for sure if it's still worth including the old build.

irasnyd
20th April 2003, 18:38
I'll get to work on it when I get back to school today. It should be done by tonight, if someone doesn't beat me to it.

I tried out the newer ffdshow that I found here on the forums, but I cannot get the "Configure" page to work. It always gives me an error. I think that leaving ffdshow-alpha in the pack would be okay.

irasnyd

SubConscious
20th April 2003, 18:51
@Doom9
The thing is that the latest ffdshow release at SF is very old comparing to the one that needs the ffvfw. So it will be better to include the new one.

@lenox
what happened to mutual exclusive selection between 5.0.2 and 5.0.4 ?
I had a problem with the mutual exclusive selection but I will fix it shortly.

since ffdshow requires another ff... it should be autoselected and diselected when checking ffdshow
I will combine the 2 options (ffdshow + ffvfw). After all I don’t think that anyone will install the ffdshow and not the ffvfw, the same with the opposite. What do you think?

does latest avisynth beta is already there ?
Yes, the lates avisynth beta build April 16 is already there.

len0x
20th April 2003, 19:17
Originally posted by Doom9
I would hope that 5.04 would finally make 5.02 obsolete. I was recently talking to the developers who themselves weren't too happy with 5.03 (might be another rushed release like 5.0) and they strongly urged me to use 5.04 for any upcoming codec comparison. Yet, I'm not much of an encoding guy and especially not DivX5 so I can't tell for sure if it's still worth including the old build.

Well, I thought that 5.0.4 would be enough as well, but just today I've discovered that combi of Avisynth 2.5x(any beta) + 5.0.4 gives me error when encoding (something like access violation: avisynth read of address bla bla bla) on my laptop... 5.0.2 worked prefectly though. It's not only me - I saw the same bug at SF bugs section of GK. I'm pretty sure that it's avisynth problem, but as long 5.0.2 works more stable with it - we should keep it, just in case...

SubConscious
20th April 2003, 20:02
The mutual exclusive selection in Codec Pack has been fixed.

Everything is uploaded in SF and ready to download!!!
Also the GK beta5 has been included in the Rip Pack and in the Exe Only.

Doom9
20th April 2003, 22:13
vstrip 0.8f is still missing. It would also be nice if gknot were registered in the list of installed programs accessible via the control panel, in order to uninstall it via the standard mechanisms available in windows. I often delete folders created in the start menu thus eliminating any possibility of automatic deinstallation.

SubConscious
20th April 2003, 23:24
@Doom9
I tried to include the vStrip 0.8f before, but the problem was that the file names were vStrip.exe, vStrip.dll and vstrip_gui.exe. In the directory of GordianKnot the vStrip.dll were used from chapter extractor. That’s why I had to rename it to vStrip_css.dll as the previous version of vstrip was. But then the vStrip_gui couldn’t be opened.
But now I just fixed the vstrip_gui to work with vstrip_css.dll. So everything is ok now and I have already included and uploaded it in SF :)

The last 2 releases of the Rip Pack register the GKnot in the installed programs and is accessible through add remove programs in the control panel :)

DaveEL
28th April 2003, 00:06
Can you update the installers with the dll's listed in this post please.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=302510#post302510

DaveEL

SubConscious
28th April 2003, 12:39
Just uploaded, but I didn’t include them in the installers because I think the installers don’t have to mess with dll files which are in the System directory and are not related with GK.

DaveEL
28th April 2003, 17:06
The installer should really install everything that might be needed IMO.

DaveEL

Doom9
28th April 2003, 17:46
well.. I have installed gknot 0.28 on 2 winxp machines and I didn't need those dlls, so I have my doubts that they are really needed. I also didn't install any other programs that come with their own runtime dll files afaik.. I run on a minimal set of software

DaveEL
28th April 2003, 18:31
EDIT: Didn't make sense

DaveEL

SubConscious
1st May 2003, 15:53
New Version of Rip Pack is up.

changelog:
- Added VirtualDubMod 1.5.1.1a
- Added DVDDecrypter 3.1.6.0
- Added required DLL's (installs them if they don't exist)

Download from HERE (https://sourceforge.net/projects/gordianknot/)

SubConscious
1st May 2003, 16:15
Because VirtualDubMod 1.5.1.1 doesn’t work correctly with GKnot a new Rip Pack with the previous version of VirtualDubMod was uploaded.