robot4rip 0.4 released.

[TheWEF]

it's in the news (http://doom9.org).


robot4rip_readme.txt:

TheWEFs robot4rip 0.4 release

automation tool for DVD ripping/indexing/demuxing
freeware
written by TheWEF & aquaplaning 2002-2003
DVD components written by dvd2svcd
tested, hosted, supported and published by doom9

DONATIONS:
If you like robot4rip, if you find it useful or interesting or
if you use it frequently, please consider to donate a suitable amount.
Just press "Donate via PayPal" in the "Help" menu to be transferred
to my donation account at PayPal. You can easily transfer money from
your own PayPal account or pay with credit card. Even the smallest amount
will be highly appreciated!
Thank you very much in advance! =)

http://doom9.org
http://forum.doom9.org
http://gknot.doom9.org
http://dvd2svcd.doom9.org

robot4rip is a part of what should have been GKnots successor.
atm development has slowed down, so i decided to release what
is working so far.
GordianKnots source code is now available under GPL.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gordianknot/

robot4rip is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

robot4rip is a frontend for these fine freeware tools:

DVDDecrypter by LightningUK, www.dvddecrypter.com
vStrip by maven, www.maven.de
BeSweet by DSPGuru, DSPGuru.doom9.org
AuthDVD.dll by Nic, nic.dnsalias.com
dvd2avi 1.76 cli by Jackei and dvd2svcd, www.dvd2svcd.org
VobSub by Gabest, vobsub.edensrising.com
DaemonTools, www.daemon-tools.com
ChapterXtractor by Christophe.Paris@free.fr
WinRAR (not freeware), www.rarlab.com

DVDDecrypter, vStrip, dvd2avi, BeSweet and VobSub are included in the
GordianKnot SystemPack and RipPack
that can be downloaded from gknot.doom9.org
to be able to use the "Full Copy" feature you have to upgrade
DVDDecrypter to version 3.1.5.0. !!!

ChapterXtractor and AuthDVD.dll come with this installer.

DaemonTools and WinRAR are not included.

recommended INSTALLATION:

1) install latest GordianKnot SystemPack.
2) install latest GordianKnot RipPack.
3) upgrade DVDDecrypter to v3.1.5.0.
4) install robot4rip into your GordianKnot program folder.
5) download DaemonTools from www.daemon-tools.com and install.
6) (optional) download WinRAR from www.rarlab.com and install.
7) run robot4rip.
8) in "Tools" -> "Preferences" check all program locations and settings.

what is this program good for?
it automates and combines all the boring steps in the dvd ripping process
to be prepared for video encoding after one single click.

doom9 has the official online guide for you already:
http://www.doom9.org/r4r-guide.htm
if this link is dead just check out the guides section and you'll find it.

all steps are optional, but you have to keep in mind that some depend
on others...

1) create a DVD ISO Image with DVDDecrypter and mount it with DaemonTools.
2) rip a selected program chain (various methods)
3) create a d2v-file with dvd2avi, automatically activate "force film" if possible.
4) transcode audio with BeSweet or any other cli audio transcoder.
5) extract subtitles with VobSub.
6) extract Chapter Information with ChapterXtractor.
7) run a custom command.


i think the gui is pretty well organized and should be self-explanatory.
"Scan" -> "Scan Folder" to search for ifo- and vob-files in a certain folder.
r4r will only find vob-files if there is an ifo with a matching name:
e.g. MyMovie_0.ifo MyMovie_1.vob MyMovie_2.vob and so on.
left-click the speed-buttons to activate/deactivate an action.
right-click the speed-buttons to change settings.
for each audio track you can select a different audio encoder setting -
just check and right-click the track.
press "Start" to make it happen.
all the rips you queue will be done from the ISO-image/Full Copy until you
"scan" a different folder.


HISTORY:

v0.1 alpha, March 26th, 2003:
this is the first alpha release. not available to the public.

v0.2 beta, April 1st, 2003:
doom9 did a lot of testing, manono helped out as well. they found quite a
few bugs that should be gone with this first public release.
please post bug reports in http://forum.doom9.org
in the gordian knot forum, but please keep it in ONE THREAD.

v0.3 release, April 11th, 2003:
- BaronVlad requested support for other audio types than ac3. use
"Edit" -> "Enable All Audio Tracks". this is a feature for experienced
users only!!! dvd2avi can only demux certain audio types and you
have to setup custom profiles for audio encoding. use at your own risk!
- len0x found a bug in the calculations of d2v film percentage. should
be fixed. you can test calculations with "Tools" -> "Analyze d2v".
- ExSport reported a bug with rundll32 & winME - should be fixed.
- some cosmetics.

v.0.4 release, April 14th, 2003:
- killingspree found a stupid bug in r4rs vstrip ripping section. the first
vob file was not picked up and renamed, therefore roughly the first 30
minutes of a movie were missing in the d2v file. it's strange that nobody
noticed before, probably because vstrip, per default, is used for ripping
from harddisk only - fixed.
- latest DVDDecrypter version 3.1.5.0 comes with new commandline switches.
so i added support for "Full Copy" in file mode, that can be used instead
of ISO mode, on machines where deamontools is not available.
- Benjy sent me a french translation for the gui, so i included it with
the installer - thank you!



hello and thanx to:

aquaplaning, doom9, DVD2SVCD, DSPguru, Nic, ookami, DDogg, cofferscuffs,
dividee, hakko504, jggimi, manono, UHT, nn, jackei, tron, len0x,
maven, gabest, avery lee, mathias born, LightningUK, DaveEL, BaronVlad,
jonny, steady, blacksun, neuron2, Tom Barry, koepi, maras, rock hardy,
rmatei, scootermyth, dvd2svcd, realspiderman,....

& all moderators and members of the doom9 community!

wef.


give it a try! :)

bug reports in this thread only, please!

happy ripping!

wef.

[jarthel]

any chance to let users specify the audio encoding bitrate? The choices are rather limited.

I wouldn't have asked if Ogg Vorbis .5 setting is there already. :)

I'll test it tonight. :)

Thanks :)

jayel

[Doom9]

you can create your own profiles as stated in the guide ;) Just take an existing vorbis profile, change the quality factor in the commandline and save it under a new name and you're all set.

[jarthel]

very nice :)
thank you.

Jayel

[bilu]

I've tested it, it look very nice! :p

The interface looks WAAAAY better than GKnot.
Still misses muxing and video encoding though, but it's a very nice work already.

@TheWEF

Will someone beside you support this development?


Best regards,
Bilu

[ExSport]

GKNOT and r4r are the best soft for dvd2DivX(XviD) conversion, but there is a function that is useful and not implemented(or there is not a profile). And it is a transcoding ac3 to ac3 with lower bitrate(AUTODUB has this function).I am not so informed in besweet command prompt- for many people will be problem to create own profile for TRANSCODE, so PLEASE, could someone informed create it for us?
Thanks for all:-))

[cofferscuffs]

wheres the big go button?

[TheWEF]

Originally posted by cofferscuffs
wheres the big go button?

shame on me! - you're not in my "hello and thanx" list - damn it! :scared: i'd say this is a serious bug that definitely will be fixed in the next version! :sly:

glad to see you around!

wef.

[TheWEF]

Originally posted by bilu
Will someone beside you support this development?

am i the only developer? - check out the readme.
support like for a commercial product - not at all.
support like guides, forum, people helping people - look around you! :)

wef.

[cofferscuffs]

Originally posted by TheWEF
shame on me! - you're not in my "hello and thanx" list - damn it! :scared: i'd say this is a serious bug that definitely will be fixed in the next version! :sly:

glad to see you around!

wef.

hah! we should catch up some time... its been a long time since ive been around (years? :p)

[killingspree]

nice toll theWEF
i'm just starting to do my first rip with it (have to free up some HD space)...
one question (probably feature request :-P):
would it be very difficult to include subrip (or alike) in there... i'm usually ripping my files to a testfile so ican use them with BSplayer and it would be great if this was included in the process...

regards & thanks again
steVe

PS: the GUI just looks awesome!

[Doom9]

I know this was coming. But anything OCR related is very difficult to automate. I know, every srt freak has all his perpared profiles for half a dozen types of DVDs, but I'm sure I'll find you a couple in my collection that still require considerable manual interaction and that goes against the "automate everything" paradigm. And vobsub subs really don't take much space sine you can rar compress them. Doesn't bsplayer support dvobsub?

[killingspree]

well i had some doubts about this idea myself but asked anyway... i know it wouldn't be possible to fully automate the process but i didn't think about exchanging vobsub with subrip but rather add subrip as a nice extra for those "freaks" -as you call them (:
well actually i do not know if bsplayer supports dvobsub... i just find it convenient to have a textfile which you do not have to take in account when calculating the bitrate. (a few kb don't matter in my eyes)

anyway... it's amazing how fast r4r is doing the whole process... just for testing i let it rip the final fantasy r2 DVD (just main movie, 2 audio languages) and let it do the dvd2avi project, all done in roughly 15 minutes- fast in my eyes. i didn't encode the audio though!

oh and this leads me to another point... i see a slight problem in the fact that the audio is compressed before you can do a compression test. i for my part at least often try to go for one cd rips first... only if the comp test value is too low or the sound is awesome so i want the ac3 file i switch to two cds - which actually happens rather frequently, since I'm usually going for quality... (: anyway my point is: won't it happen rather frequently that you compress the audio to let's say a 128 kbit mp3 and then you decide to do a 2 cd rip and rather wan't two audio tracks at 192 kbit?!? then you have to do the encoding process again... just my 2 € cents though!

regards
steVe

[Doom9]

well.. if you decide to keep the ac3 that's no problem, so you have wasted a few minutes but is this so bad? You can still deactivate audio in r4r and do audio compression in gknot.. (okay, no ogg at the moment but then there's no ogm output either.. if you want ogm better use dvd2ogm for the post r4r operations).
Personally I would (if I were to rip.. I only do it for academic purposes) either go with a fixed quality MP3 (128kbit/s) or the AC3 right away.. it sound good enough and I rather use the extra bitrate for video.
In any case, r4r can't do comp check before audio encoding for well known reasons, and I did try my best to decide Wef to implement the 2nd half of the process as well but I'm afraid that's just not an option right now. I'm reasonable confident though that we cover the largest common divisor when it comes to user profiles and you really can't satisfy everbody.

[killingspree]

Originally posted by Doom9
I'm reasonable confident though that we cover the largest common divisor when it comes to user profiles and you really can't satisfy everbody.

true, true...
thanks for your time...

regards
steVe

[ExSport]

Thanks for help:(

[TheWEF]

Originally posted by ExSport
Thanks for help:(

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14432

[ExSport]

Originally posted by TheWEF
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14432


Sorry, I am not angry:) But I thought that profile for AC3 transcoding or advice is not problem for people from this forum. I am not so informed in this problematics(besweet ac3 transcoding)
Anyway thanks for all which will help;)

[rybread]

r4r is ripping everything in 4:3, even widescreen only sides of discs. how do i fix?

[TheWEF]

@ExSport:
OK. your problem is very audio specific and i do not know the answer.
what you need is a comand line tool capeable of doing that (don't know if it's possible with besweet?) and the correct commandline options.
if you can come up with an example (maybe ask in the audio forum) i will tell you how to create a profile in r4r.

@rybread:
r4r is a ripping tool only, it does not do any resizing or encoding. you can do all that with gordian knot. its time to read doom9s guides!!!

wef.

[TheWEF]

a guy called Benjy sent me this:
Hi!

Here are french translation files for robot4rip :)
On a French localized windows version, the program will automatically load the .FRA files and will get localized. I also included a (rough) translation for ChapterXtractor.

Hope you like it,
Benjy.


could anyone with a french windows version please try and tells us if it works:

http://gknot.doom9.org/RobotRip_FRA_files.rar

wef.

[rybread]

i've read the guides and ripped 20+movies succesfully! what i do is preview vobs w mp6.0.4 ripped from widescreen sides of dvds, but they only preview properly in 4:3. i do play dvd prior to ensure format. this only happens w r4r. files are being ripped into m2v, not vob.

[TheWEF]

Originally posted by rybread
i've read the guides and ripped 20+movies succesfully!

http://www.doom9.org/dvd-basics.htm
http://www.doom9.org/aspectratios.htm

[rybread]

i didnt turn it on,but demux if poss was checked automaticly in pgc rip options. doesnt that get done in dvd2avi? thats the way i've done it in the past. that fixed it though.

possible bug?

by the way, r4r guide says leave defaults, but that gives you .m2v instead of .vob,

thanx(?)for the speedy response

[TheWEF]

Originally posted by rybread
possible bug?

did you really read the docs linked above?

a vob (=video object) is a file containing various streams, like video, audio, subs and other information.

if you demux you get plain audio and video streams and the additional information is gone.

one additional information (used by dvd-players) is how to play back the video stream - anamorphic or not.
(btw this information can sometimes be wrong, because there is a way to overrule this inside the ifo file.)

all of this has nothing to do with the ripping process, the video stream is not altered or manipulated in terms of aspect ratio. this is a matter of play back only.

in any case you have to select the correct aspect ratio when you create a frameserver from the d2v file manually, whether you have been demuxing or not.

so no, this is not a bug. :rolleyes:

wef.

[rybread]

i dont get to put in movies myself. quadriplegia is a bitch, but i've got it. damn shallow pool. 2 diff people reading widescreen on wrong sides of discs. sorry and thanx. widescreen only disc works fine

[ExSport]

Big THANKS to TheWEF.
Thanks for answer:D :) :p ;)

[Benjy]

Originally posted by TheWEF
could anyone with a french windows version please try and tells us if it works:

http://gknot.doom9.org/RobotRip_FRA_files.rar

wef.
It works :D

[BaronVlad]

Hi,

Congratulations, theWEF, r4r looks quite nice,I thought by myself: Why not make your first robot4rip-rip with an adult DVD ? :eek: It is the hard way anyway. OK, I did the settings, but no Audio Track is available. There is one track, this "Unspecified" and grayed. The guide says that a grayed Track is not available in this PGC but in another PGC in this VTS Set, but it isnt. May the problem be, that "Unspecified" isnt the preferred language ? (in the settings there is no such option) Cause of this problem r4r doesnt get any audio for the pgc, dvd2avi has no sound. Doing the old way with DVDDecryptor and DVD2avi gets audio in track1.

Any solution ?

Thanks

[TheWEF]

Originally posted by BaronVlad
Any solution ?

well, atm you can only process ac3 sound with r4r, nothing else. i will think about supporting other soundtracks in future releases.

wef.

[BaronVlad]

Thanks wef for the answer, I hope you will find some time to add support for other audio tracks :(

[ExSport]

There is a BUG in r4r - WIN98SE.
When extracting SUBS with VOBSUB, there is a mistake in command line.
Program run VOBSUB with command line:
C:\windows\system\rundll32.exe "c:\windows\system\vobsub.dll",Configure c:\....\vobsub.param

First error is in location of rundll32.exe => correct is c:\windows
Second is "" => in syntax must not be ""!!!

Correct syntax for Win98 is:
C:\windows\rundll32.exe c:\windows\system\vobsub.dll,Configure c:\....\vobsub.param

Big thanks for best riping solution ;)

[ExSport]

Here is a syntax for PROFILE for AC3 transcoding to lower bitrate(256)AC3:

-core( -input "%input%" -output "%output%" -logfile "%log%" ) -ota( -d %delay% ) -azid( -n1 ) -ac3enc( -b 256 ) -profile( %version% )

Have FUN

[ExSport]

Who will not need DIALOG NORMALIZATION REDUCTION(????), just delete -azid( -n1 )
Bye;)

[jarthel]

any chance future version will support IFO parsing?

It'll be good for anime lovers. :)

Jayel

[len0x]

Looks nice, but too much automatization for me :)

several minor (but very annoying) points:

1) why seperating d2v project and audio in different folders?
(later on you have to add audio in GK and it several more clicks to
find audio track)
2) NTSC sources - are they all FORCED FILMED by default ?
(coz most of the time I actually have to perfom proper IVTC)
So is there a way to ask user about how he wants it to be done?
3) DVD2AVI process in general - no preview available, so you cannot
really check what's going on... (Interlace, film etc...)
4) Why renaming vobs to m2v when ripping ??? Later on if you'd like
open DVD2AVI you have to manually add all the files (when *.vob are
used DVD2AVI loads all of them automatically)

[Doom9]

@len0x: how long have you tested?
Force Film is applied if the film percentage is higher than a user customizable treshold (that's in the guide ;) So, no need to see about FILM or interlacing (in the preview and GKnot or another program opening the d2v you can then additionally make the choice between deinterlace or not).
And files are not renamed, if you don't do subs and have demuxing activated in the ripping tab, video and audio are automatically demuxed during the ripping process to save space (streams you don't need are therefore not stored on your HD). Of course you can disable demuxing and when doing subs it's automatically disabled since vobsub can't process dvddecrypter's demuxed subs.

@jarthel: what are you talking about? Certainly not the same tool as everybody else.

@ExSport: Directory of C:\WINDOWS\system32

23.08.2001 14:00 31'744 rundll32.exe

[len0x]

Originally posted by Doom9
Force Film is applied if the film percentage is higher than a user customizable treshold (that's in the guide ;) So, no need to see about FILM or interlacing (in the preview and GKnot or another program opening the d2v you can then additionally make the choice between deinterlace or not).


It's a bug then - I have it set at 95%, but when I do manual preview in dvd2avi it's about 91-92% and it was forced filmed by r4r anyway...

Originally posted by Doom9

And files are not renamed, if you don't do subs and have demuxing activated in the ripping tab, video and audio are automatically demuxed during the ripping process to save space (streams you don't need are therefore not stored on your HD).


well, so there is no way I can demux only audio?
(meaning: still have vobs, but with audio demuxed - in case I'm not completely satisfied with dvd2avi options of r4r...)

[ExSport]

Originally posted by Doom9
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@ExSport:
quote:
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Directory of C:\WINDOWS\system32

23.08.2001 14:00 31'744 rundll32.exe
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[/B]

Windows 98 SE has rundll32.exe in c:\windows
23.04.1999 22:22 24'576 rundll32.exe

It is my CASE;)

[Doom9]

[16 bit windows hate mode on]if it were for me I'd have every program author implement a check that stops the program before it even appears on the screen if trying to run it on a pocket calculator OS like w98 or millenium. Upgrade, you'll have more computer satisfaction and your sex life will improve considerably[/hate mode off]
@len0x: no, yet dvd2avi works just fine with m2v files so that shouldn't stop you from creating a new dvd2avi project

[ExSport]

Originally posted by Doom9
[B][16 bit windows hate mode on]if it were for me I'd have every program author implement a check that stops the program before it even appears on the screen if trying to run it on a pocket calculator OS like w98 or millenium. Upgrade, you'll have more computer satisfaction and your sex life will improve considerably[/hate mode off]


I have WIN98SE and WinXP because not all progs are functioning on XP;)

[jarthel]

I apologize I wasn't clear.

I meant the ability to select chapters not just PGC. :)

Jayel

[manono]

To len0x-

It's a bug then - I have it set at 95%, but when I do manual preview in dvd2avi it's about 91-92% and it was forced filmed by r4r anyway...

I'm not so sure there's a bug. I'll assume that you ran the preview for only a short time (not all the way through), and I'll also assume you ran the preview from the beginning. If you ran it from somewhere in the middle you'd get a much truer idea of the content of the movie itself. In the beginning of the movie, before you actually get to the movie itself, you'll have the studio logo or the production company short video and such. Those are often interlaced, and if you run the preview for a short while, the results will be skewed because of the opening non-movie stuff. I'm fairly certain that if you actually saved a complete .d2v that by the time it finished, it would be at 95% or above.

If you open the .d2v, you might see a bunch of zeros or 2s at the beginning, indicating interlaced content. But once you get to the movie you should see the 0123 pattern indicating film content (with maybe some more stray zeros or 2s at chapter breaks and such).

[len0x]

Well, I know all that and right after my first post I did test it a bit further and found out that dvd2avi ended up with 94% in the end (full length) while r4r showed 98% in the logs...

So it seems that dvd2avi and r4r uses different strategy for calculating percentage... (not sure which one is right...)

[manono]

Well, I stand corrected then, len0x. Sorry to doubt you.

I keep mine set at 99%. I just hate finding an interlaced frame or 2 after I get done. It sounds like you too might be encoding those non-Hollywood type movies which haven't been mastered properly, and which shouldn't be Force Filmed.

[len0x]

Originally posted by manono
It sounds like you too might be encoding those non-Hollywood type movies which haven't been mastered properly, and which shouldn't be Force Filmed.

It's most of TV shows - they all have such problems... :)

[TheWEF]

Originally posted by len0x
It's a bug then - I have it set at 95%, but when I do manual preview in dvd2avi it's about 91-92% and it was forced filmed by r4r anyway...


i will have a look at this.

Originally posted by len0x
well, so there is no way I can demux only audio?
(meaning: still have vobs, but with audio demuxed - in case I'm not completely satisfied with dvd2avi options of r4r...)

there are two ways to get audio:

1) demux with the ripper. this will save space, because you get separate audio and video streams. and it will cause trouble in some cases, because if something went wrong (e.g. there is a trailer included that you don't want) or you later decide that you want subs you have to rip again.

2) demux with dvd2avi. that's the method i recommend. just uncheck demuxing in pgc preferences and the ripper will output vobs. needs a little more hd-space (who cares...) and is much more flexible.


Originally posted by len0x
why seperating d2v project and audio in different folders?
(later on you have to add audio in GK and it several more clicks to
find audio track)

if you use method 2, audio files are created in the project folder. in any case you can edit folder preferences and use the same folder for iso, rip and project. it's just that sometimes (like myself - for speed reasons) people want to use different drives.

Originally posted by len0x
DVD2AVI process in general - no preview available, so you cannot
really check what's going on... (Interlace, film etc...)

i do not see a way i could change that. automatic is automatic. e.g. you can start ripping before you go to bed. when the process is finished, the box is shut down. i admit that in rare cases you might have to manually redo the dvd2avi process the next day and again encode audio to get sync (at least you can reuse your prefered stored audio profile).

Originally posted by ExSport
Correct syntax for Win98 is:
C:\windows\rundll32.exe c:\windows\system\vobsub.dll,Configure c:\....\vobsub.param

k, will be fixed.


wef.

[japouleripeur]

GordianKnot is a great tool
Robot4Rip is a great tool, too (and it works with french add-ons)
Thanks a lot, TheWEF.

[CaPPyD]

I just wanted to say that I've done about four rips now with R4R and everything is working great. It's so much easier to put the DVD in and have everything done for you. Thanks for a great proggie WEF!

(P.S. THRESHOLD is spelt incorrectly in the program.) :D

[manono]

Congrats CaPPyD-

Your 100th post, and a fine one it was, too.