Removing unwanted menu languages (ifoedit experts, please read)

[nomax]

Hi,
I've spent the last few days trying to figure out how to remove unwanted menu languages from some DVDs, in an attempt to reduce the total disc size and make it fit on a 4.7GB DVD-R. Most of the times this task can easily be peformed using Ifoedit. You just load the menu .ifo file (tipically vts_01.ifo) and select the languages that you want to keep in the "Menu Extras" option of this program.
The real problem arises when you want to process one of those DVDs where, upon inserting the disc in the player, a startup screen is displayed and you have to choose which language the menus will be shown in (e.g. many Disney movies or "The Unbreakable" region2 version). In this case when I load the menu .ifo file into Ifoedit, all I get is a single language menu and there's no way to see which VOB cell IDs are used by a specific language, making it impossible to determine which cell IDs to keep or discard. Now my question is: is there any program that could help me to analyze the menu structure by loading the .ifo file and displaying the exact links between the VOB cell IDs, in order to understand which IDs actually belong to the menu language that I want to keep?
Thanks in advance for your reply,
Nomax

[pjn228]

Open ifoedit, Open the Ifo of the movie (vts_01_1.ifo ) or whichever set the movie is in. From the Vob extras menu choose "strip streams". Pick the languages you want. The rest, with the menu, will be stripped out.

[Sauron1978de]

Well, I have the same problem with the R2 TNG Boxes. Everything is in the same Menu Language Unit. When I try to rip Menu VobIDs that hold the Menu in the languages I don't want to keep the Result will play in PowerDVD, but not on my Standalone.
I also deleted the Menu where you have to choose the language. The problem is that this DVDs have dozens of PRE Commands.

Perhaps anyone got an Idea how to make the thing work on a stand-alone?

[2COOL]

Originally posted by Sauron1978de
Well, I have the same problem with the R2 TNG Boxes. Everything is in the same Menu Language Unit. When I try to rip Menu VobIDs that hold the Menu in the languages I don't want to keep the Result will play in PowerDVD, but not on my Standalone.
I also deleted the Menu where you have to choose the language. The problem is that this DVDs have dozens of PRE Commands.

Perhaps anyone got an Idea how to make the thing work on a stand-alone?

Stripping out certain menus (VobIDs) using "Menu Extras", you have a high chance of menu corruption. Especially when you strip out ones in the middle. The ones kept after IFOedit will be renumbered accordingly. IFOedit strips the menu but still keeps the nagivation commands intact. Say you stripped out VobID 2 out VobIDs 1, 2, and 3. After IFOedit is done stripping, VobID 3 will change into the new VobID 2 since the original got stripped out. Since the navigations are still intact, there's a command somewhere that accesses your VobID 2 menu. But your new VobID 2 is different now. There's a guide somewhere on how to manually change that but if DVD space is not a problem with keeping your unwanted VobIds, I suggest you just disable that certain button that accesses your unwanted menu or video clip.

MenuEdit is a great free program on disabling buttons.

[Sauron1978de]

Yeah, I know of MenuEdit. Great Program. But Space is exactly the problem. When I strip the menu of the languages I don't need, I come down from 250MB to around 50MB. Thats why I wanted to do that.
Well, perhaps I have to go through the command tables and look for what Paramount did with this language menu.

Thanks anyway.