Log in

View Full Version : INterlaced support in Do CCE 4 u??


baker
24th March 2003, 19:48
I was just womdering if the next version of do cce 4 u will have interlaced support cause at the minite its impossible for us pal users to encode interlaced material with it!!! Making films like spiderman impossible!

Also are you sure setting the min bitrate at 0 is a good idea, wont some apexs crash if the min bitrate falls below 800?? Not that its likely to do that anyway.

Baker

BBWoof
25th March 2003, 04:36
Originally posted by baker
I was just womdering if the next version of do cce 4 u will have interlaced support cause at the minite its impossible for us pal users to encode interlaced material with it!!! Making films like spiderman impossible!

Also are you sure setting the min bitrate at 0 is a good idea, wont some apexs crash if the min bitrate falls below 800?? Not that its likely to do that anyway.

Baker

I have not done a PAL DVD backup, but I guess I assumed (something that shouldn't be done) that on interlaced source material, you would still use a plugin like decomb to deinterlace before encode.

The other problem as I understand it is detecting when a PAL source is interlaced.

BBWoof

hakko504
25th March 2003, 08:46
I'm quite sure Spiderman isn't really interlaced, but rather fieldshifted progressive and should be treated with Telecide(guide=2,post=false) This solution is useful for a lot of PAL movies, as outlined in this thread. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34696)

waldok
25th March 2003, 14:12
I may be wrong here (old brain may not remember well...) but as fas as I can remember, I encoded Spiderman PAL in progressive mode without any problem. It sure didn't look nterlaced to me? Didn't seem it was fieldshifted either. Maybe it is a special collector version or something ? What version do you have ?

Waldok:cool:

baker
26th March 2003, 22:07
@ the fella who posted bnefore this one.
Its the extras that appear interlaced.

@ hakko504
thanks!

@bbwoof
I aint asking for any sort of interlaced detection or anything, simply that there is a button on do cce 4 u which says "interlaced content" and will disable the progressive check box. Anybody can then set it themselves..

Thanks for a great program thats perhaps under appreciated.

Baker

Eyes`Only
27th March 2003, 19:04
Also are you sure setting the min bitrate at 0 is a good idea, wont some apexs crash if the min bitrate falls below 800?? Not that its likely to do that anyway.
That's for non-DVD formats, like SVCD. DVD has no problem with a min bitrate of 0. Incidentally, if you raise the min bitrate, you effectively lower your max bitrate without even realizing it. I would advise against it.

baker
27th March 2003, 19:44
Right sorry if I am wrong but isnt dvd standard that the min bitrate should go below 2000??? obvisouly this is ludicris as such a high bitrate would limit the variance a lot and thus lower the quailty.

If all players have no problem with a min bitrate of 0 then fine, actually great! ;-)

But i still think standard asks for this... dosn't it???

I will have to check.

By the way if you arent answering my post in the other thread as you are pi$$e# off, plz say so.

Baker

Eyes`Only
27th March 2003, 22:02
nah I'm just not answering because I'm not a PAL person. My experience with PAL is very limited, and I rely on my fellow-expert-DVDr-ers to keep me up to speed. I was kind of hoping someone else would attempt to reply and clear up confusion.

Plus this discussion is almost cross-threaded now. I will say that I do not know of anyone that knows what they are doing that changes their video to half size, as that causes a ridiculous amount of quality loss.

Oh and there's no minimum bitrate for DVD Specs that I know of. Dunno where you're getting this erroneous info from(?) but I'd stop visiting that URL! :D