this is my ULTIMATE backup program

[MackemX]

the ultimate backup program program would hopefully include the following features

1) a VOB ID removal feature for extras

this would be so much better than a Title removal tool as you could just trim the bits you don't want from within a title without losing everything within that title. Also having a preview facility so you can see the consequences of the VOB ID removal

2) a RESTORE feature

the ability to replace the VOB ID you have just removed if it had an undesired affect using the preview function

3) an option to determine which compression engine was used on each Title

the lowest setting would give you the quality of DVD2One and the highest would give something like CCE standard quality with settings inbetween also available

4) a SPACE ALLOCATION feature for each Title

a bit like IC's way of distributing space using the slider bar and if you slide one title up it would uniformly reduce the others to always make 4.37Gb

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basically it would use the same layout as IC is now, but in each Title you would have an extra VOB ID TAB to remove VOB ID's from within that title instead of removing the whole title (which would still also be an option)

for each title you would another ENGINE TAB to choose which compression engine to use on that title and that would then use the % reduction you have selected to reduce the title or a quality setting(high,mid,low)

it should also include a MENU VOB ID removal feature as sometimes they include warnings etc

now that would be one great tool

you can do it all this manually at the moment if you have the knowledge and tools

but the day one tool can do it for you is the day everyone will be happy :D

[SteveV]

Code it and i will buy it :D

[2COOL]

"Without vision, we are blind to opportunity."

[clasper]

I would also hope there would be a software player comparable to a standalone player included. Maybe one that could read UDF sectors if thats possible. It would be nice to test that way before burning.

[MackemX]

that would be implented into the preview function :)

[Fmazzanti]

I would also add something very important (at least for me). That is, the ability to process the video stream through something like CCE and to put that back into the project. That would be my dream: something as easy to use as IC or DVD2One but with CCE quality... ahh, nice... that would be just *great*.

[MackemX]

Originally posted by MisterX
3) an option to determine which compression engine was used on each Title

the lowest setting would give you the quality of DVD2One and the highest would give CCE quality with settings inbetween also available
dunno if you missed it but it's in my list, but I doubt we'll ever see it :(

[Fmazzanti]

Well yes... that's the reason why I keep messing around with CCE, IfoEdit and Maestro myself. Unfortunately, manual intervention maeks it much more painful and time consuming (not talking about CCE encoding time). But I wonder why nobody has done this yet? is it THAT hard to implement :confused: ?

[waldok]

Fmazzanti,

Have a look at the forum about DoItFast4u and Docce4U, have a look at Reauthorist (ask aquabubble) and you'll see you are not very far from a real good solution with CCE and scenarist.

Waldok:cool:

[Fmazzanti]

waldok,
precisely today I printed the Scenarist+DoItFast4U+CCE guide from doom9 and man... 18 pages of 'do this and then that and afterwards this other thing'. I can't tell exactly because I've never used Scenarist myself (I'm a Maestro guy), but at a first glance I can tell you that it scared me to death. Too many things adn you know, if one step there goes wrong... kaput. I think I'll dive into it when I have few free hours. In the meantime, I keep saying I wish i had an automated tool that let you use CCE as a video encoder.

[MackemX]

how much are Scenarist & Maestro these days? :)

[waldok]

You have a good point here :D

Waldok:cool:

[hakko504]

Originally posted by Fmazzanti
In the meantime, I keep saying I wish i had an automated tool that let you use CCE as a video encoder. ReAuthorist...

[waldok]

Reauthorist, as I said before...

Waldok:cool:

[MackemX]

yeah very good suggestion tho isnt that just for single PGC's? and would require extra work for multiple PGC's and rebuilding?

I can just about do a multiple PGC backup using CCE as I finally learnt how to rebuild a multiple PGC DVD and although I enjoy doing them I don't really have the time :(. Now I can get excellent complete DVD backups results using IC & DVD95Copy with around 15 mins of user input. Processing time for me is irrelevant, it's the usertime and resulting quality for that usertime that is

I would love a tool that does the whole DVD which works a bit like IC but gives that little extra by allowing which engine you want to use on each Title and actually can remove Titles and give you 4.37Gb at the end of it

at the minute Ifoedit can do me the removing part, DVD95Copy gives me the option of getting 4.37Gb and finally I have the choice of IC or DVD95Copy for the engine on the Titles I want to process. I could use CCE for some of the single PGC Titles but I'm happy with IC's engine I guess as using DVD95Copy on the extras give me that extra 10%+ for IC which on most DVD's takes me into the high 80%'s, low 90%'s compression

As I mentioned to int 21H, if I do want top quality I'll just pull out the original on special occasions

don't forget the masses either as not everyone is fortunate enough to have all the tools used by reauthorist

cheers guys and thanks for the suggestions and I'm sure a tool using CCE's engine as well as others, but also doing complete backup's with minimal tho some effort will be able in the future

[Fmazzanti]

I like your last sentence, and I wish you're right. I do believe also reauthorist can deal with single and multiPGC, but don't forget... this hasn't been released yet :sly: And I have the impression that it is not going to be that easy to use anyway... BTW, Scenarist is forbidingly expensive, and Maestro is no longer sold.

[waldok]

Being a luck beta-tester of reauthorist, I can tell you it is extremely easy to use. 2 clicks and you'll generate a complete scenarist script that does it all for you.
It's still in beta stage and some small bugs are still present, but I can assure you it looks extremely promising.
For me, the combination DIF4U + DOcce4U + Reauthorist is THE way to go for maximal quality backups.

Now, as MisterX said in another thread, Scenarist and CCE are not for free, so one-clik software like IC, DVD95copy or DVD2one might be an alternative.

Waldok:cool:

[MackemX]

Originally posted by MackemX
the ultimate backup program program would hopefully include the following features

1) a VOB ID removal feature for extras

this would be so much better than a Title removal tool as you could just trim the bits you don't want from within a title without losing everything within that title. Also having a preview facility so you can see the consequences of the VOB ID removal

2) a RESTORE feature

the ability to replace the VOB ID you have just removed if it had an undesired affect using the preview function

3) an option to determine which compression engine was used on each Title

the lowest setting would give you the quality of DVD2One and the highest would give something like CCE standard quality with settings inbetween also available

4) a SPACE ALLOCATION feature for each Title

a bit like IC's way of distributing space using the slider bar and if you slide one title up it would uniformly reduce the others to always make 4.37Gb

----------------------------------------

basically it would use the same layout as IC is now, but in each Title you would have an extra VOB ID TAB to remove VOB ID's from within that title instead of removing the whole title (which would still also be an option)

for each title you would another ENGINE TAB to choose which compression engine to use on that title and that would then use the % reduction you have selected to reduce the title or a quality setting(high,mid,low)

it should also include a MENU VOB ID removal feature as sometimes they include warnings etc

now that would be one great tool

you can do it all this manually at the moment if you have the knowledge and tools

but the day one tool can do it for you is the day everyone will be happy :D

that tool is here now in my hands and developing fast :cool:

[Fmazzanti]

Originally posted by MackemX
that tool is here now in my hands and developing fast :cool:
Is it? And what's the name of the creature?

[gnipooldd]

Originally posted by MackemX
that tool is here now in my hands and developing fast :cool:
Originally posted by Fmazzanti
Is it? And what's the name of the creature?

Is it Willy, or Dick? :D

[2COOL]

LOL! I never thought people would've interpreted it that way. Though it gets funnier when you read it the second time around. It so non-topic DVDRHelp style. I'm glad MackemX has a great sense of humor.

[MackemX]

Originally posted by 2COOL
LOL! I never thought people would've interpreted it that way. Though it gets funnier when you read it the second time around. It so non-topic DVDRHelp style. I'm glad MackemX has a great sense of humor. that's instantly what I thought of, must be my dirty mind :p

if this was DVDRHelp I would have been in a flame war by now

have you seen me in action at DVDRHelp? :scared:

[tumbar]

have you seen me in action at DVDRHelp?

Would you like me to invite Gurm and Foo? :rolleyes:

[MackemX]

nah, it's OK but maybe later of DVDRHelp is still offline :(

anyone know what's up with it?

[monomer]

Since it was developing so fast, I assume you've 'freed Willy' by now. That's great! so now you can put Mr. Turtle away and get back to work on IC8.

(...MackemX, you didn't think you'd get away so easily now did you?):D

[MackemX]

lol :D

[2COOL]

Originally posted by MackemX
have you seen me in action at DVDRHelp? :scared: Yes. I'm actually there under another username for awhile now. It's the only place I felt I just wanted to be a little more anonymous. I get the feeling that you may know what my username is and if you do, just PM me on your guess.

[MackemX]

2LOSINGIT?

[SidDan]

MackemX

I am also trying to learn doing a multiple PGC titleset(movie) All the rest I can do very well, but I just have problems authoring the extra PGCs that are with the movie´s titleset.

tried searching and all.. but there are sooo many pages for a simple question. I have the vobs multiplexed from the DVD2DVD-R (using CCE)
With single PGC I just author it back with IFOedit.

But how do I simply copy the structure over to Scenarist and to build the PGC table, that I don´t know.

I would really like to avoid the BIG 3 since DVD2DVD-R (using CCE) is so very easy