Avisynth and Bad Pal Anime Dvds

[ZeroKnight]

Hi Guys,

I am trying to encode a pal anime dvd, I have tried using deinterlace, field deinterlace, smart deinterlace, seperate fields, both odd and even. But all of these gives me really bad results. For fun i tried using an telecide, i found that using telecide it looks better than the deinterlace but not as good it needs to be.

I dont know why the ivtc looks better than the other deinterlace but i was told by something that the method used by telecide to choose the frames is better than the deinterlace. However when i telecide i get black lines and jerky playback which i expected.

But is there some way i can tweak the telecide or deinterlace to work better like the telecide.

Here is the script i was using.
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\avisynth\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\avisynth\Decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\avisynth\Convolution3D.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\InverseTelecine.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\Encoding\Animedvd\animedvd.d2v")
crop(13,4,693,568)
InverseTelecine(40,10,15)
Convolution3D (preset="LQ")
BicubicResize(512,384,0,0.5)


So i am at a loss on how to tweak it to work better with the anime i am trying to encode. I did try greedy instead of the telecide stuff but it didnt work as well as the telecide.

Please let me know of anything i can try or do to help me with this.

[int 21h]

I've seen


ivtc(70,10,25)
Blendfields()


Being recommended for Anime. Try that, also try searching for things like 'ivtc AND anime' or 'decomb AND anime', etc. It will yield a ton of posts with hints about anime in general. Best of luck.

[Acaila]

Every single PAL Anime DVD that I have seen suffers from blended fields. And there's nothing you can do to clean that up to satisfaction. Mostly I just use FieldDeinterlace or Telecide to clean up the interlacing and leave it at that.

[ZeroKnight]

Hi Guys

I just try the settings
ivtc(70,10,25)
Blendfields()

They settings made it look even better, but i was getting a little tpye of artifacts on the lines. So i am not sure why i am still getting them or what i can try to do to remove them.

[manono]

Hi-

Didn't you notice that ivtc(70,10,25) makes it 20fps and jerky? It's not a good idea to IVTC PAL material. You might try and load the Decomb Plugin and use Telecide(Guide=2) by itself (no Decimate). But as Acaila said, it's usually a lost cause to try and clean up PAL anime. Your best bet is probably just to BlendFields() or FieldDeinterlace(). DJ Bobo gets credit for the BlendFields() recommendation (hi DJB).

[ZeroKnight]

Yeah, pal dvds are like that. But the thing i dont like that is when playing in on a dvdrom or a dvd player, it looks perfect. I believe that when you play a dvd and it plays perfect you should be able to get it to look like that on the encode.

But i know you shouldnt ivtc, but it does look better picture but not as good as it could be. Feild deinterlace and blend fields didnt do that much for it, i was also trying con3d as well.

But i still cant manage to get it right.

[jarthel]

What DLL contains Blendfields? I'm using AVS2.51 and it doesn't seem to find the Blendfields function. Thanks

Jayel

[Dreassica]

mpeg2dec.dll does contain that command.

[jarthel]

thank you. :)