View Full Version : DVD2one new version out now (1.1.1!)
Jayce
20th March 2003, 12:45
Here's a new version of DVD2one with the following new features:
- Full disk copy mode added.
Please note that the image quality will be less than when you use movie-only copymode, because there is more data to copy and also all soundtracks will be included.
- New system to calculate the compression ratio.
This should keep the image quality more stable.
- Improved the progress bar.
It should run continuously now for all movies.
- Added detection that you try to read directly from a protected DVD.
hakko504
20th March 2003, 12:48
Nice. I'll check it out tonight.
:) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Scarpad
20th March 2003, 15:53
Well on the right track but you absolutely need to be able to select Audio streams doing ful disk. I never select all streams only the DD or DTS. This compromises image quality way too much.
Sofaking
20th March 2003, 16:37
:cool:
cheers guys,ill check it out,im running it already and its again the fastest 1;)
edit: first movie(blade2) is alright, have past the test,theres quality loss,good to watch though (used the default settings=3289MB)
Have to test on that 1,anyways its working whitout a bug
takes 69 min to complete,conclusion dvd2one is fast:cool:
keep up the great work on this piece of software ;)
wangofree
20th March 2003, 17:53
I'm surprised this new version isn't mentioned in the DOOM9 news section....
jdobbs
20th March 2003, 18:16
Just did my first movie -- looks good so far, will advise after burn and viewing on the bigscreen. There's a couple of good ways I can imagine to remove the extra audio streams before compressing... I'll try a couple and give some feedback.
monomer
20th March 2003, 18:31
Hey, THANKS!
Personally, I was very satisfied with the previous version... this just "sweetens" the deal.
Keep up the good work!
Lazza
20th March 2003, 22:41
There was a very small bug in the new compression ratio function, which could cause the program to crash. This is fixed now.
DVC2
20th March 2003, 23:39
Just did a full copy of Yamakasi - PAL:
Original DVD:
Total filesize 7.429.886
Movie 6.225.656
Extras 1.204.210
DVD2ONE 1.1.1:
Total filesize 4.579.548
Movie 3.837.768
Extras 741.780
Everything tested out allright - all menus working fine - all extras selectable and playable - all audiotracks and subtitles present and selectable.
Quality SURPRISINGLY GOOD - naturally not CCE quality but definately acceptable considering the transcoding of the movie from 6.225.656 to 3.837.768 - I could show this dvd to everyone I know and noone would question it was the real thing.
And how long did this 1 to 1 copy including transcoding take ??
A staggering 19 min !!!!!!!! Yes you read it correct - 19minuttes total.
Simply incredible :D
nyplayer
20th March 2003, 23:40
Unfortunately it doesn't remove the layer break when you do 1:1...This causes my ps2 to freeze at layer break.
DVC2
20th March 2003, 23:49
Ever considered getting a real dvd-player instead of using a gameconsole ? the ps2 is not exactly famous for its compatibility as a dvd-player ;) Just Kidding :)
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=66369
ReneB has some comments on the "layer break issue"
Apart from this you must admit that 19 minuttes to create a 1 to 1 copy is pretty impressive :)
nyplayer
20th March 2003, 23:52
LOL DVC2...
I do have good standalones and yes you cannot beat the timing...Just a minor bug I wanted to point out in case other's have problems. Overall I am very impressed!!!!
jdobbs
20th March 2003, 23:52
I like it. The quality is very good. Sure wish I could dump a couple of languages and use that bandwidth for video, though.
DVC2
20th March 2003, 23:58
you can - using ifoedit before letting dvd2one do its thing.
not an optimal sollution I agree - but workable for now - untill they release a version of dvd2one where you can.
jdobbs
21st March 2003, 00:04
Yeah. But I wish it didn't take so long... It takes almost half as long to scan and remove streams as it does to encode.
Man, I am really getting spoiled...
DVC2
21st March 2003, 00:06
hehehe - I totally agree with you - I also hate the time it takes for ifoedit to do its stuff :)
Talk about spoiled - in the old days (which werent to long ago) we spent days creating one dvd/svcd/vcd whatever - now we moan about spending 20 minuttes with ifoedit - LOL :)
hakko504
21st March 2003, 08:09
UPDATE: v1.1.1 is out. It will fix a crashing bug when you use full-disk copy. I think the main difference etween VCD/DivX ripping and DVD2DVD ripping is that the current apps for DVD2DVD ripping requires much more usertime. We must do more stuff, wait a while and then come back and do more in order to make good DVD2DVD copies. The old VCD/DivX was much more of work when you started the rip but then it ran for 10-20h unsupervised.
DVC2
21st March 2003, 08:40
I have to disagree just slightly - as I see it the current ways to do dvd2dvd ripping actually requires less usertime than before when ripping to vcd/divx if we settle for the same result (just a main title) or now also even for a 1to1 copy - both of these scenarios can be done in a 3 click environment and result is great. Theres not more usertime in this than there was before. Definately not.
The main difference now is we are spoiled and dont settle for either main movie or 1to1 copy - we want to controle EVERYTHING - we wont settle for movie, we also want menus, preferably moving menus at that - we wont settle for mpegaudio, we also want ac3 or dts - we wont settle for all audiotracks and extras, we want to customize and take away certain items only.
Our demands are way higher today for the final result than it was before - and still we want it finished before we finish our cup of coffee. Call me crazy but I think we are spoiled with the options we have and the things we can do today :)
dvman
21st March 2003, 11:52
There is a new version of DVD2One... well sort of... ReneB said that they fixed another bug this morning an put it on their site without changing the version number... :D :D
mcentee
21st March 2003, 15:18
New version looks good - just also wondering about the Audio/Sub stripping. Anyone got any preference for how to do this before DVD2One does it trick. IFOEdit was mentioned earlier, but I am unsure what the sequence- there must be a guide somewhere already!
goober22
21st March 2003, 17:45
Originally posted by mcentee
New version looks good - just also wondering about the Audio/Sub stripping. Anyone got any preference for how to do this before DVD2One does it trick. IFOEdit was mentioned earlier, but I am unsure what the sequence- there must be a guide somewhere already!
This was posted elsewhere:
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1) Rip the WHOLE disc to your HDD
2) Open the .ifo of the set where you want to remove the soundtrack from in ifoedit 0.95
3) click the VOB extra's button and check correct original ifo's and de-check create new IFO's
Also check the automaticly copy menu files to destination
4) press next and remove the unwanted streams
5) Merge the original content of the disc MINUS the part allready in the destination directory
6) Do the correct vts sectors routine
7) process with DVD2one 1.1.1
8) test and burn.
I know this is some hasle but for now it's the easiest way of doing it with DVD2one.
ReneB
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mcentee
21st March 2003, 18:00
Thanks Rene B - I suppose what I reaqlly mean is that i have seen so many guides to ifoedit that I am not sure which is the one to use for this! I am talking about things like copying the vts vob set and rename to vts_01_ from vts_0x_, and others like it. Or creating new ifo's etc.
From the guide you replied with, I take it I don't need to copy the titleset to a different directory and rename back to vts_01_ before stripping? So I can just run the strip process on the original ripped vts set (not vts_01)? Also, am I right in understanding that ifoedit will create the stripped clean new vobs in a new directory with a new vts_01_0.ifo and a new video_ts.ifo in that new directory.
If so, do I just copy all these files back into the original directory (making a backup of the orig files of course!). In this case my question relates to the new ifo files, are these created purely from the new vobs (as they would be during an ifoedit "create new vobs" process) are are they tweaked copies of the original ifo files that will now work with the new vobs as well as including any extra ifo config that was there originally (sub colours, language info etc) ?
Hmm...after reading the above it looks like I don't fully understand the intricacies of ifoedit yet, maybe this should be in the ifoedit forum..apologies!
Many Thanks
Sofaking
22nd March 2003, 02:03
cheers for the new update
btw
some other guy made a perfect guide to strip streams/subs using ifoedit/dvd2one v1.1.1
credits to Nestochi ;) => Remove streams (http://www.geocities.com/ecarril/StripAudio.html)
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(1) Rip whole DVD to your HD using file mode in DVDDecypter
*except main movie vobs*
(2) then rip main movie vobs with DVDDecrypter using ifo mode.
(3) use stream processing to get rid of audio,subs.
*make sure you include main-movie .ifo file*
(4) process with DVD2one 1.1.1
(5) test and burn.
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OsirisMedia01
24th March 2003, 06:35
Yep that would be the logical way to do it I woulda thought
Good ol DVD Decrypter style :)
mcentee
24th March 2003, 10:28
All very good guides, for what they are supposed to achive, but really I am after something that would "simply" remove a Title from a DVD, so that I could then process it with DVD2One or IC7. Most of guides are good at stripping VOB-IDs or audio/subtitle streams.
Again, this is probably the wrong forum now, as most of the guides I see are aimed at using ifoedit.
Is anyone out there working on a "helper" program to automate ifoedit, or do somthing similar - it seems that most peoples problems come from using IC7 to do the title stripping when it can't really handle it. It would be good to have a tool that shos you the titles on a DVD, then allows you to just choose the ones you want, then it goes away and reworks the ifo files so that they still work.
So far, I like the idea behind Misterx's guides, in that a title can be replaced by a blank file, that way the IFOs structure isn't changed - only the details. I supose there are a million-and-one ways to skin a cat (or DVD title), so its not a trivial excercise to code.
chew1138
25th March 2003, 15:10
I haven't been able to find the answer to this question, so sorry if it's been posted.
What's the correct size entry for full disc copy in DVD2One? I overwrote it a while back and wanted to check (4480mb??)
mordant
25th March 2003, 15:47
4472 is the default...I had forgotten this myself, but just reinstalled it a few days ago.
Arianos
25th March 2003, 17:19
(By NT)
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(1) Rip whole DVD to your HD using file mode in DVDDecypter
*except main movie vobs*
(2) then rip main movie vobs with DVDDecrypter using ifo mode.
(3) use stream processing to get rid of audio,subs.
*make sure you include main-movie .ifo file*
(4) process with DVD2one 1.1.1
(5) test and burn.
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I think the above should be an extra super sticky on the very top.
The only thing missing is
(3a) rename VOBS according to original names (which is obvious, but never hurts to say it)
All the Ifoedit guides i've seen work OK if one wants to keep the 1st language (99% English)or the 1st Sub Stream (again, 99% English).
They also work OK if you select an Audio or Sub Stream via the remote Audio or Sub button, BUT NOT from the disc's menu!!.
The only exception is here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46909
(By 2COOL. Should work, but it didn't for me :( Probably something I do wrong. Also, what about subs? )
Plus, Ifoedit takes a freaking long time, while this way, the stripping is done while ripping!
Downside:
You get to scroll through all the languages, if you want to change them during play. ALL the names are still there.
I just did "Breakfast at Tiffany's", European edition, kept English Audio and English, Greek, Portuguese and English for the hearing impaired subs(1, 5, 7 and 15 I think) and the Sub menu on the backup works perfectly OK on my super picky Philips 743
I suppose the method could be fine tuned a little (e.g. No sound, when you select an audio that isn't there anymore) but since it works ok for me otherwise, I won't try to fix it. :)
Sbofen
26th March 2003, 12:32
Originally posted by NT
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(1) Rip whole DVD to your HD using file mode in DVDDecypter
*except main movie vobs*
(2) then rip main movie vobs with DVDDecrypter using ifo mode.
(3) use stream processing to get rid of audio,subs.
*make sure you include main-movie .ifo file*
(4) process with DVD2one 1.1.1
(5) test and burn.
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How about just staying in file mode for step 2? Just right-click on the .vob's and choose stream processing
xmenxmen
27th March 2003, 00:52
Hopefully in a few weeks they would have an update to allow removal of extra and change compression rate of extra. Tried it on "You Got Mail". It reduce everything down to 55% which is quite bad. Movie is 5.16GB with 3GB of extra.
Keep up the good work as the program is looking more promising by the day. And love the speed.
JF Sebastian
28th March 2003, 14:37
As my first test I just did The Mummy Returns, going through ifoedit first as reposted by reneB (thanks), selecting english audio and english subpicture only, then letting dvd2one do its thing.
Speed is staggering - I used to have to leave a project running all night - and quality pretty good. I think there was a slight blockiness to all the flickering flames but you really had to know the original. Apart from that, all menus etc worked perfectly and in all noticeable respects it is a perfect copy. :D
BUT for some reason I lost all the Forced Subs such as when Imhotep is speaking the ancient language - this appears not to be in the main subpicture. Is this usual? Forced Subs aren't embedded in the video so are they placed elsewhere in another language? :confused:
If I could determine how to locate Forced Subs then ifoedit > dvd2one would be my only choice, as a lot of the movies I have seem to have some sort of Forced Subs somewhere in them (Sum of All Fears, SWep2, True Lies, Mummy, etc etc).
Anyone help?
JF
guzpot
4th April 2003, 12:37
u still use IFO mode on the new verison ov DVD2one or can u use ISO like INstant copy
theshakez
4th April 2003, 22:19
Anyone noticed the bug when using Dvd2one?
There is a problem with the audio quality on playback, the sound keeps dropping slightly, then slowly builds back up. Does this all through the film. Tends to be more noticeable the more you compress.
jdobbs
4th April 2003, 22:29
I have serious doubts this could possibly be a DVD2one bug... DVD2one doesn't touch the sound -- it comes over as-is.
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