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Demi9OD
19th March 2003, 00:26
Using the newest version of Instant Copy (patched from retail) and getting some wierd artifacts. Anyone seen this before and know of a way to fix it?

http://www.striker2000.com/pub/instant_copy.jpg
Arkay
19th March 2003, 02:48
Yeah.

I've seen similar artifacts but at the top of the pic, not at the sides. Don't ask me why they're there though.

That was with playback via PowerDVD too. I haven't tried the suspect disc on a standalone yet. I figured the artifacts on my disc would probably not be visible on a TV (i.e. in overscan area of the tube).

Cheers,
Arkay.
Demi9OD
19th March 2003, 03:21
It did it in powerDVD for me as well. That screenshot was taken from a avisynth script in Vdub though, so they are present in the encode, not just playback.
mrbass
19th March 2003, 04:03
What is the picture quality percent of the main movie? You will start noticing them on stuff below 75% or so if you look hard.
http://www.mrbass.org/instantcopy/picquality/fire.html
http://www.mrbass.org/instantcopy/picquality/water.html
Demi9OD
19th March 2003, 04:32
Yeah the simpsons DVDs are almost totally full off episodes, no extras, I think I was using 62%.
mrbass
19th March 2003, 05:35
no way you could get it to 75%? Hmmmm if not then I guess a CCE route would be better. What exact season simpson dvd is this? I may wanna give it a try myself.
int 21h
19th March 2003, 05:37
The CCE route isn't possible is it? The last Simpsons I did were Multi-PGC, each episode was its own PGC in one VOB set.
Demi9OD
19th March 2003, 06:24
Nah its do-able with season 1, one PGC one VOB set. But I like the menus and I'm too lazy to re-create them. There is no way I can get up to 75%.
mrbass
19th March 2003, 07:34
then seriously I'd pick the crappiest episode and exclude it to bump your pic quality percent up past 75%. Also knock your menus down to 60% if it'll help at all with space.
Oneiroxy
19th March 2003, 11:43
60% suggests for me at least that the DVD is over 7.5GB and the best thing to do in that case is to split. I found that over 6.5GB (movie only size though) the quality is worse than a good Divx when you squeez it to 4.3GB, so it doesn't worth it...
Aragorn
19th March 2003, 15:22
Please tell what exact Episode this happened (or on all?) and from which country they are coming from... These errors are macroblock errors (most probably some kind of DC problems), to have a look at it, it would be necessary to know which episode this was.

@Arkay : Also, what was your movie?

Aragorn
Aragorn
19th March 2003, 15:25
Or even better, can you provide the chapter where this happened? (only the 1-2 minutes where this actually happen?)
Smartripper is able to select only the appropriate chapter on ripping...

Aragorn
Demi9OD
19th March 2003, 17:41
It happened all over all the episodes. The condition lasted over an entire scene with the blocks moving around, and would disappear on the next scene change. I think there is some sort of issue with the InstantCopy encoding algorithm.
MackemX
20th March 2003, 00:16
what region is is and what series/episode?. I have region 1 here, series 1 & 2

is it a pulsing effect when the blocks move?

have you ran it again to see if it does the same thing?

just keep that episode title and use the % and set the menu to 100% for a faster process
jaagee
20th March 2003, 01:29
Originally posted by mrbass
What is the picture quality percent of the main movie? You will start noticing them on stuff below 75% or so if you look hard.
http://www.mrbass.org/instantcopy/picquality/fire.html
http://www.mrbass.org/instantcopy/picquality/water.html

mrbass: There MUST be other factors involved here. I have burned many a movie (Main Title) at a rate of 60% to 70% and have never had the results posted in this thread.
jaagee
20th March 2003, 01:31
Originally posted by MisterX
what region is is and what series/episode?. I have region 1 here, series 1 & 2

is it a pulsing effect when the blocks move?

have you ran it again to see if it does the same thing?

just keep that episode title and use the % and set the menu to 100% for a faster process

Also be sure that you don't have Norton AV running in the background which eats up your processor speed.
MackemX
20th March 2003, 01:39
Originally posted by jaagee
Also be sure that you don't have Norton AV running in the background which eats up your processor speed.

:confused:

I'm just implying he transcode the one title instead of 6 and then set the menu to 100% so it copies directly instead of transcoding that also which will probably only take 20-25 mins instead of the 2 hours when doing the whole thing again

I agree to your point about NAV as I have seen previous posts but how much does it actually affect speed by? and is it worth the risk of turning it off especially if you are still using the computer?

I will turn it off if it is a big increase so some examples would be nice
jaagee
20th March 2003, 02:04
Well, it certainly sped up my processing and also prevented other minor problems I was having. I most definitely agree with you about the risk. I run a virus check daily and I ALWAYS turn the cable modem OFF before I temporarily disable Norton.

You pose a good question thou. I will try to find the time in the next little while and will comprise a test to find out the actual difference that you can acheive by disabling NAV. I will post my findings as soon as I am done. (Pictures Too! :D )

I'll get back to you soon!

jaagee
mrbass
20th March 2003, 02:36
Originally posted by jaagee
mrbass: There MUST be other factors involved here. I have burned many a movie (Main Title) at a rate of 60% to 70% and have never had the results posted in this thread.

what I'm trying to say is for those CCE people....If you want it looking near CCE quality then I suggest staying above 80%. Yes I believe you can watch a movie around 60% which to me is around what dvd2one transcoding produces on long movies.
Arkay
20th March 2003, 02:55
The disc I saw this on was StarTrek Next Generation season 3 disc 7 (Pal Region 4).

This disk only has 2 episodes + a heap of extras.

I kept the episodes at 100% and reduced the extras to get it the right size (around 35% each). It was the extras that exibited this problem. It's not a macroblock problem due to heavy compression. The entire extras are heavily compressed and the quality loss is uniform across the screen (apart from the obviously wrong/corrupted) macroblocks at the top of the picture.

Cheers,
Arkay.
Aragorn
21st March 2003, 00:54
@Demi9OD

Please read your private messages...


@Arkay

I think the artefacts you found, are the same as they are in the original. I think this is some sync information of the video signal (from an analogue tape, from which it was recorded)...

Aragorn
Arkay
21st March 2003, 03:10
Aragorn,

Hey. You could be right about those "artifacts" being original sync info.

I'll have a closer look when I've got some spare time at home.

Cheers,
Arkay.