xmpeg vs. gknot

[reduser]

I started out using gknot and I thought it made pretty good rips. But then I saw my friend's rips using xmpeg 4.5 and it was like comparing dvd and vhs. That stupid xmpeg won't work on my computer so I'm stuck. Is there some way I can use gknot to get xmpeg quality rips? I read the guide and seem to be doing everything right. If there is some key thing that I'm missing or screwing up, or just something in gknot I should pay closer attention to I'd be greatful to know about it. Thanks

[killingspree]

Hi and welcome to the forum!

well there IS a new version of Xmpeg (5.0b iirc) and it should be way more stable, but i wonder if your impression is true. i've used xmpeg befor i came to doom9.org thus discovered gknot and i can tell you xmpeg rips can't even truly compare to gknot ones.
So how did you compare these two methods. did you just watch two different movies, one encoded with gknot the other one with xmpeg?
if so i can just advise you to stay with gknot! for true comparison ou should do two exactly equal rips! this means all the same settings (same amount of passes, same bitrate, same audiobitrate, same filters) then you can compare the results.
you cannot simply compare two different movies, even if they have pretty much the same length and are on the same amount of cds. why? because besides the chosen bitrate, the compressability is also very important, one movie can look at 900kbit just fine and another one can look crappy at 1200 kbit...
so unless you are basing your statements on true comparisons rather stay with gknot.
the only postitive side of xmpeg is it's configuration speed, with that tool you can really set up a rip in less than 10 minutes!

regards
hope this helps
steVe

PS: oh what just came to my mind: i don't think that xmpeg really offers you something like precise file sizes does it?

[reduser]

Well, I downloaded xmpeg 5 and it hasn't crashed yet. I am still working on configuring 2nd pass for divx 5, though I think I have it working and my job is being encoded now. In some ways I think gknot is actually easier to use because I can get a guide on it that is actually up to date. In response to your question about the rips; I just compared them in general and after watching 4 or 5 of his I decided my gknot movies were inferior. However I'm not going to give up on gknot yet. I am going to run some tests between xmpeg 5 and gknot and see which one comes out on top. Oh yeah, and you actually can choose filesize with xmpeg--you just use a bit rate calculator and input the desired bit rate on the divx config page.

[dani82]

how did you get xmpeg 5 to work? i'm asking cause when i try to uses xmpeg, it said "The XMPEG.EXE file is linked to missing DSOUND.DLL:11"

any help, from anyone would be appreciated.

[OvERaCiD23]

The tools associated with GKnot (VirtualDub, AviSynth, BeSweet) are more than capable of outputting video better (much better!) than XMPEG. All the 'best rippers' on this forum use these tools, so that should tell you something as well. You are obviously doing something wrong with GKnot if XMPEG is producing better results. :(

Oh yeah, and you actually can choose filesize with xmpeg Yes, so can GKnot. It's all that stuff under the 'Bitrate' tab. :eek: