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MystSith
15th March 2003, 20:38
Hello,

To convert NTSC in PAL I use the InverseTelecine. I obtain a very good result.
However avisynth 2.5 doesn't support this filter unfortunately, and it's not very nice.
I have try Decomb that is written for the 2.5 version... but the result isn't the same. And I have try practically all combinations proposed in guides.

An idea please? :)


My script:

LoadPlugin("MPEG2DEC.dll")
LoadPlugin("InverseTelecine.dll ")
InverseTelecine(40,10,15)

DJ Bobo
15th March 2003, 21:03
Oh well, I was also forced to switch to Decomb now, just because of the great speed increase due to YV12 mode in AVS 2.5x, although I was one of the greatest supporters of the original IVTC filter.

Use the latest Decomb version for AVS 2.5 with the following parameters:

Telecide(guide=1)
Decimate(cycle=5)

You won't be disappointed.

MystSith
15th March 2003, 23:35
I am sure that we can manage to make good job with Decomb. The parameters that you advised to me, appear adapted but alas I have far too many jerks with, and I don't know why.

DJ Bobo
15th March 2003, 23:57
What is your source?

BTW, you have to add assumefps(25) at the end if you want PAL. You must then accelerate the audio properly.

MystSith
16th March 2003, 00:31
It is not a problem of sound. It is the image which jerks. Detection is worse I think... on the duplication of image. My source is a DVD anim NTSC 720*480.
I want only a 23.96 fps in fact (like what the InverseTelecine (before 2.5) produces) or a 25 fps if i have no jerks.

Guest
16th March 2003, 00:38
Have you tried Decimate's mode 2?

Post a VOB fragment that demonstrates your problem and I will be happy to have a look at it and try to find the right settings for you.

MystSith
16th March 2003, 00:59
Like that?

Telecide(guide=1)
Decimate(mode=2)

The jerks seems less but still there.

With which program can I cut my vob please?

DJ Bobo
16th March 2003, 01:57
:D
Don't tell me it's anime, tell me the name of the series. For example, you can't get proper IVTC from Evangelion.

ErMaC
16th March 2003, 03:44
Unless it's the new remastered Region 2 discs :)

See my slashdot post here (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=54598&cid=5350821). The new remastered footage Decomb's perfectly.

edit: typos suck.

DJ Bobo
16th March 2003, 05:06
WoooooooooooW!!!!!!! those are promising screenshots!! (Misato-san never looked that good!! :cool: )

Anyway, I just pre-ordered that 01 Test-Type DVD ... yes, I'm thaaaat excited!! :D
Hope the DVD will be encoded in progressive mode though, because new telecine is good, but progressive is better ;)
But I think I'll be overwhelmed by the picture quality anyway :D

Man, I can't wait!! I wanna have it right now!!!

ErMaC
16th March 2003, 06:28
The newtype disc wasn't progressive encoded but it IVTC'd perfectly. Whether or not the final discs will be progressive flagged I don't know.

Guest
16th March 2003, 06:57
Originally posted by MystSith
Like that?

Telecide(guide=1)
Decimate(mode=2)

The jerks seems less but still there.

With which program can I cut my vob please? When using mode=2 it's important to set the threshold properly.

Cut your VOB with any VOB splitter utility. See, for example, the doom9 download page.

MystSith
16th March 2003, 20:34
How to choose the good Threshold? It will be adapted at the integrality of the dvd?

Here an extract of my Vob:
Http://mystsith.free.fr/Example/NTSC.vob

The dvd isn't perfect but after InverseTelecine using, the result is better.

Thanks for your help ;)

DJ Bobo
16th March 2003, 22:12
Telecide(guide=1)
Decimate(cycle=5)

works perfectly on it. What are you complaining about??!!

And if you want 25fps output:

Telecide(guide=1)
Decimate(cycle=5)
AssumeFPS(25)