Big Issues regarding CCE Encoding HELP!!!

[MaistroX]

Got stuck on a BIG PROBLEM regarding a Movie called Battle Royale (can check it Here (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0266308))!

The thing is that the dvd holds two dvd´s, one with the original movie and extras , and a second one with only The Directors Cut version of the movie!

The DC (Directors Cut) version is: to big so there for I need to use CCE.

The movie is a PAL and if I check one of the .vob´s with Bitrate view, i get:
"

Num. of picture read: 1083
Stream type: MPEG-2 MP@ML VBR
Resolution: 720*576
Aspect ratio: 16:9 Generic
Framerate: 25.00
Nom. bitrate: 9000000 Bit/Sec
VBV buffer size: 112
Constrained param. flag: No
Chroma format: 4:2:0
DCT precision: 10
Pic. structure: Frame
Field topfirst: Yes
DCT type: Field
Quantscale: Nonlinear
Scan type: Alternate
Frame type: Interlaced
Notes:
"

But still after the CCE is done and i do, as usual, ifo-update & do my image with Ifo-Edit & burn, I get that the picture it self looks fine, but everything moving on screen is shaking around as H--L, WHY ? :confused:

Need some help here urgent coz can´t seem to solve this one myslef! :(

Ps. the backup itself works like a charm regarding all the putting-back-on-dvdr, only the picture thats shaking ALOT!

[jbenj01]

sorry, i am no expert.. also, i deal with NTSC and not PAL.

that said, i noticed your frames are interlaced.. with NTSC source, i must IVTC (inverse telecine) the source frames prior to re-encoding; otherwise, i will get a 'jumpy' end-result video. but again, i'm unsure whether that is the case with PAL. good luck!

[MaistroX]

Originally posted by jbenj01
sorry, i am no expert.. also, i deal with NTSC and not PAL.

that said, i noticed your frames are interlaced.. with NTSC source, i must IVTC (inverse telecine) the source frames prior to re-encoding; otherwise, i will get a 'jumpy' end-result video. but again, i'm unsure whether that is the case with PAL. good luck!

THX for the answer, but how do I go about to do that ?

[Ripe73]

hi!

try with Decomb in the aviscript

etc
LoadPlugin("C:\WINDOWS\System32\mpeg2dec3.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program\DoItFast4U\Decomb.dll")
Mpeg2Source("VTS__01_P01_1.d2v")
Telecide()
ResampleAudio(44100)

[MaistroX]

Originally posted by Ripe73
hi!

try with Decomb in the aviscript

etc
LoadPlugin("C:\WINDOWS\System32\mpeg2dec3.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program\DoItFast4U\Decomb.dll")
Mpeg2Source("VTS__01_P01_1.d2v")
Telecide()
ResampleAudio(44100)

THX again for a great/quick answer, but this issue it totaly new to me (maby to alot of other that stumbeled on this problem)!

Could u PLEASE tell me a more "step by step" what progs and exakt what to do!
Have in mind that I start with the a .img done with ifoedit that has before gone true DVDDecrypter!

So with a *.img file I start! :)

PLEASE HELP!

[MaistroX]

PLEASE , Anyone able to try to guide me step ny step how to get this BIG problem (maby) solved !?

[Ripe73]

Hi!

I dont know if you use avisynth or VFAPI when you encode your movie with CCE..??
In my example i use avisynth and open the script with notepad and put this Decombline in...hmm...i suggest you get DoItFast4U on Doom's site and demux the movie with and put the decomblines in...
there is a guide how DoItFast4U works..in the full backup guides..
or you can try to set DVD2avi to "swap field" when you do your *d2v.

[jdobbs]

Have you tried changing the TFF flag in the resulting video? It sure sounds like your fields are reversed... You can use Pulldown to do that but be careful to ensure you don't also accidently do a 2:3 pulldown.

[auenf]

first, you do not want to do a IVTC on a PAL source

second, the stream is flagged as interlaced, but cause its PAL it might be progressive, you will have to look at the stream physically.

finally, jdobbs mentioned the TFF flag, which even on progressive source will make the motion messed up. the mpeg fixer that comes with Darim DVMPEG (just grab the demo and install it, the mpeg fixer is 100% usable in the demo), it is the easiest program to change the field order.

however, you have used CCE to reencode the movie, and if you dont set the 'upper field first' flag correctly (it is not the same meaning as the TFF flag) it will swap the fields by shifting the footage up 1 line, which may or not be correctable with the TFF flag change.

if you need to reencode, uncheck the upper field first flag in CCE and change the TFF flag afterwards with DVMPEG fixer or pulldown.

Enf...

[MaistroX]

Originally posted by auenf
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if you need to reencode, uncheck the upper field first flag in CCE and change the TFF flag afterwards with DVMPEG fixer or pulldown.

Enf...


Oki, this sounds great IF it were to work! :)

So IF I have (as with this movie) allready done a CCE 10-pass re-encoding with "upper field first", then to do ?

Should I try reencode same re-encoded bit this time without "upper field first" and after try to "change the TFF flag afterwards with DVMPEG fixer..." ?

THX alot for all suggestions, will countinue to post proggress!

[jdobbs]

Change it with Pulldown.exe -- that way you don't have to reencode.