View Full Version : InstantCopy 7.0.1.114 Update !


mb1
12th March 2003, 12:10
ftp://ftp.pinnaclesys.de/driver/pc/InstantCDDVD/InstantCopy_Update.exe (13 MB)

Changes:

- AUDIO_TS folder is added for compatibility issues with various stand alone players
- Volume Label on destination disc (editable in customize disc dialog)
- Layer break on copied DVD gets removed

- Fixed problems when removing sub pictures and audio streams
- Fixed problems while creating overlay fixed (SID Error)
- Fixed problems with parallel writing to multiple CD Burners
- Fixed rare burning error "Buffer not found (x)"

Advanced registry settings:
USE THESE SETTINGS WITH EXTREME CAUTION NO SUPPORT CAN BE GIVEN IF YOU CHANGE DEFAULTS OF THESE SETTINGS

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\VOB\CD Wizard\7.0\Copy

DWORD "DVDAnalyzeMaxRel"
Defines video size that gets analyzed in percent (Default: 7%)
DWORD "DVDAnalyzeMinAbs"
Minimum video that is analyzed (Value * 2,5 MB)
DWORD "DVDSaveQuality"
Defines the place reserved for not predicted video size in percent (Default: 6%)
STRING "DVDHideConversionPicture"
"True" Hides preview picture while converting and analyzing a DVD (Default: "False")
STRING "DVDAlwaysEnableOkButton"
"True" Always enable OK button in "Customize Disc" dialog even if the predicted size is over 4,32
STRING "DVDRemoveLayerBreak"
"False" to disable removal of layer break

-=ViBeZ=-
12th March 2003, 15:01
Thanx for the heads up!

Grabbing it now. Hope it solves some of the bugs

i@videocontrols.co.uk
12th March 2003, 16:19
:(

Well, with great anticipation, I installed the update, in the hope I could then encode the Sweetest Thing (R2). The speed of the updated version is brilliant, far quicker at encoding without torturing the machine. But, yet again, it get's to a branch in the menu for the main film, hangs for a while, then just bombs out........Multicopy needs to be closed.....

Any ideas peoples???

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

valnar
12th March 2003, 16:19
Awesome. I'm trying it now on Rocky Horror, my problem child DVD.

This is very unlike Pinnacle to come out with a patch so quickly. It must be the former VOB employees. ;)

EDIT: Rocky Horror still crashes out by the end. :angry:

Robert

mrbass
12th March 2003, 16:27
hmmm mb1 ....your a saint...ok I'll mirror it for awhile but hopefully there's other mirrors out there too. Don't think I'll have time for 15 more hours till I can even play with it though..suck.
3 mirrors so far www.mrbass.org/instantcopy (http://www.mrbass.org/instantcopy/)

Can anyone confirm whether or not this updates the demo or what? Or is there a new demo?

quadguy
12th March 2003, 16:50
I would have thought this thread would blossem to a bazillion posts in no time...Well, good for those of us who are watching...you can still download the update with good speed (I was getting 72kbps using a download manager with 5 parts).

Can anyone else confirm that the speed is improved. I would have thought that if Pinnacle made improvements to speed, those would be the FIRST thing they'd mention in the list. Instead, there's no mention at all of speed in the list...

Now to find out if disabling the video output by the registry change will allow the program to run on my dual processor HP Kayak XU800 (which has so far stubbornly refused to work with InstantCopy, even if I force IC to run on only one processor...)

Quad

valnar
12th March 2003, 16:51
I got the file.... but where is this list published on Pinnacle's site?

mrbass
12th March 2003, 16:57
http://webboard.pinnaclesys.com/read_messages.asp?WebboardID=13&ForumID=847&SectionID=156&ThreadID=133373&ThreadStart=0&Pos=2&cntThread=50&lng=1

mcentee
12th March 2003, 17:00
I've just tried to run the new 13 Mb download and got a message sayng that "a full installation of IC could notbe found".

Any ideas ?

mrbass
12th March 2003, 17:07
yea buy the retail version....so I guess it does NOT work on demo I take it.

mcentee
12th March 2003, 17:08
Well, I have the 7.0.0.91 ful retail version, and it isn't working at the moment - I'll try at home later.

pat8
12th March 2003, 17:14
After I installed the update I got an error saying PS Drive check found an error with the drivers installation, do I want it to correct ? Has anyone said OK and what were the results ? The program does work fine the way it is, concerned that if I let it make corrections to the drivers it might mess up the multitude of other dvd/cd appliactions I have on my computer.

toolman2k
12th March 2003, 17:41
Originally posted by mb1
ftp://ftp.pinnaclesys.de/driver/pc/InstantCDDVD/InstantCopy_Update.exe (13 MB)

Changes:

- AUDIO_TS folder is added for compatibility issues with various stand alone players
- Volume Label on destination disc (editable in customize disc dialog)
- Layer break on copied DVD gets removed

- Fixed problems when removing sub pictures and audio streams
- Fixed problems while creating overlay fixed (SID Error)
- Fixed problems with parallel writing to multiple CD Burners
- Fixed rare burning error "Buffer not found (x)"



quite funny....im a beta tester of IC7, and this list looks exactly like the list of things i sent them that needed urgent fixing...guess they're listening quite well :)

goldenrod
12th March 2003, 18:28
Is the undersize bug fixed in this update?

rolandb5
12th March 2003, 18:31
Isn't the reserved video value the cause of the undersize? So that the 6 % value means, they reserve 6 % for unexpected things.

Lowering that value could be the solution.

Not sure tough.

Rombaldi
12th March 2003, 18:50
It DOES look like they have been listening to the people's complaints...

quadguy
12th March 2003, 19:15
Originally posted by Rombaldi
It DOES look like they have been listening to the people's complaints...

As well they should...Right now, they are leading this pack of DVD copying programs. Perhaps not among all the hackers on boards like this, but in the marketplace. They are the only program that will have shelf space in every major retailer. They are the only program available at B&M retailers that can copy an entire DVD9 onto a DVD5.

They have the lead here, and it's theirs to blow.

DVD95copy, DVDxCOPY, DVD2one, etc. all have their relative strengths, but if Pinnacle takes this product seriously and comes out with a set of timely updates to address the issues people are having with InstantCopy, the other guys are going to be niche players.

And no, I have no vested interest in any of these programs. I just want a program that does great copies without any bugs. That's "all" :-)

Quad

Dre
12th March 2003, 19:16
Link To Pinnacle US Website Patch (http://www.pinnaclesys.com/docsupport1.asp?division_id=1&langue_id=2&product_id=1153&product_name=InstantCopy&page_id=62)

Here's the link to the US website with the patch and patch info. I'm getting 30kb/s download speed.


I really hope they fix the undersize issue with this patch. I did a movie last night that came out to 3.74GB :confused:
I'll test it tonight.

ZeroLimit
12th March 2003, 19:33
Hey people who ever has crashes with any movie just make the MENU at 100% and it wont crash. It did that for me too with Lord Of The Rings dvd. I put the menu at 100% and no crash =) cool hu!

Kopite
12th March 2003, 19:51
Just did way of the gun R2. And it was undersized. So no solution there. But the F5 trick still works, so no problem there either :)

valnar
12th March 2003, 20:38
Originally posted by ZeroLimit
Hey people who ever has crashes with any movie just make the MENU at 100% and it wont crash. It did that for me too with Lord Of The Rings dvd. I put the menu at 100% and no crash =) cool hu!

Uh, no. That doesn't work with all movies.

dumb13
12th March 2003, 20:38
Originally posted by mrbass
www.mrbass.org/instantcopy (http://www.mrbass.org/instantcopy/)


mrbass,

Awsome page - all you need if serious about DVD 1:1 back-up with IC!

Thanks!
Regards
dumb

jippiejajee
12th March 2003, 22:17
Originally posted by pat8
After I installed the update I got an error saying PS Drive check found an error with the drivers installation, do I want it to correct ? Has anyone said OK and what were the results ? The program does work fine the way it is, concerned that if I let it make corrections to the drivers it might mess up the multitude of other dvd/cd appliactions I have on my computer.

Got this also whem I ugraded from 7.0.0.91. I Also have a startup monitor running which gives a signal when a program tries to load itself to be run at startup, got a message from this program that driver check program tried to load itself at start up, I allowed it to do so. When reboot my Elby image drive (clonecd) mentioned that somebody messed around with the drivers and ask if I want to correct it. I acknowledge the message. Although everthing seem to work fine after this I decided to do de-install of instantcopy and a registry clean (to remove al vob entries) as de-install leaves in the registry values. After that installed 7.0.0.80 and upgraded to 7.0.1.114 no messages this time. Burned a CD and DVD in meantime, everthing seems to work fine

(O yeah second time of upgrade I disabled the virus scanner (PC-Cillin) don't know if it is related to it, anyhow)
... mmm strange

ZeroLimit
12th March 2003, 23:19
I said only for MENUS because it just skips the menu. Doesn't Encode any menu thats why im saying. So ONLY For menus like I said

h00z
13th March 2003, 01:02
Strange... I have two machines here with the full version on them (Purchased even!). One of them upgraded without a hitch, the other gives me an error (can't find the previous install). Anyone have any insight? I was thinking it was paths to the originals, but both were the same.

I think one machine was upgraded from the demo to the full version, then to the update. The other was freshly installed with the 7.0.0.91 version straight from the CD. Could this be the problem?

MackemX
13th March 2003, 01:30
anyone tried changing the reg settings?

jzaman
13th March 2003, 02:32
(can't find the previous install error)

When you install the update to the retail version you need to create another shortcut on your desktop for version 114 to work. Delete the shortcut to instant copy on your desktop. Recreate the shortcut.

Oneiroxy
13th March 2003, 02:50
I changed the "DVDSaveQuality" value from 6 (initial 6%) to 1 (for 1%). Instead of the usual 8-9% smaller file I got a 2.5% (i.e. I picked 4.34GB for encoding and resulted a 4.24GB, actual change=2.3%)
I have now changed the "DVDAnalyzeMaxRel" to 15% instead of 7%. Giving IC more space to control the size it will result better and accurate files! I will report findings.

pat8
13th March 2003, 02:54
jippiejajee-thanks for the reply. I just decided to disable running PSDrvCheck at startup and not let it "correct errors." Everything seems to be running fine (CloneCD, Nero, Record NowMax, DVDXCOPY, etc, etc.

h00z
13th March 2003, 04:04
I figured out the upgrade problem. I exported the registry tree on the good machine and merged it with the registry on the one that wouldn't upgrade. Everything was smooth sailing after that.

Apparently it didn't like something in there, but I didn't do too much digging to find out what.

mgd72
13th March 2003, 04:45
I installed the patch then ran a test at default settings without changing anything. The test was Disc 5 of Deep Space Nine episodes. The result was 4.12GB

Next, I changed these reg settings to these: (I forget what the default was)
DVDAnalyzeMaxRel value to 16
DVDSaveQuality value to 2
I also deleted the discdata.add and discdata.adi files
And I disabled the online transcoding database (This was disabled on first test also)

The result was a file size of 4.26GB. Nothing else was changed but these two settings. I didn't delete any titles or change the compression. I did keep only 1 audio track for each test.

One thing I noticed besides the file size change was that the video analyze took longer than before (as a result of changing the DVDAnalyzeMaxRel I assume). It was grabbing frames every 10 seconds or so to analyze. It took probably 10 minutes longer than before to do the video analyze. I can live with this as long as the sizes come out right. I think my next job I will set the DVDSaveQuality to 1 to see how much closer it gets to 4.36GB.

Hope this helps

Mgd72

neo_sapien
13th March 2003, 05:40
Can someone get me the default value for DWORD "DVDAnalyzeMinAbs" please? I changed mine by accident and can't remember what the original was.

mgd72
13th March 2003, 05:43
@neo_sapien

The default is 16.

mgd72

mcentee
13th March 2003, 10:31
I am still having problems running the update, getting the

"Cannot find Instantcopy. This update requires an installed full verision of Instantcopy"

message. I've tried deleting and recreating the desktop shortcut as per a previous post with no luck.

Anyone got a reg file form one that has worked ? Again, a previous post mentioned there might be something in there ?

Thanks

mrbass
13th March 2003, 10:55
On your instant copy cd what does it say on it?

mcentee
13th March 2003, 11:21
Thanks Mr Bass - do you mean written on the CD surface itself or in/on the packaging somewhere ? Either way I'll have to wait until I get home tonight.

mrbass
13th March 2003, 11:28
well if it says 7.0a then you got 7.0.0.91. It seems like some people didn't uninstall the demo version then reboot (as they should have..remember folks windoze is windoze). After the reboot then install their retail version. I did that and had zero problems. Disable any antivirus when you install cd/dvd burning apps like InstantCopy, clonecd, discjuggler, video drivers, etc.

when you get home tonight? You must live in Asia I suppose...It's 2:30am and I'm hitting the sack...7:30am I gotta be at work. BTW I added those registry hacks for version 7.01 IC7.01reghacks.zip (http://www.mrbass.org/instantcopy/IC7.01reghacks.zip)

neo_sapien
13th March 2003, 11:43
DVDAnalyzeMaxRel value to 16
DVDSaveQuality value to 1

AOTC Disc 1 R1 came out at 4.33 gigs when I set Instantcopy to 4.37 gigs. I hope that's a good omen that all future rips will be similarly filesize accurate.

Oneiroxy
13th March 2003, 12:38
I will try with DVDSaveQuality value to 0! Theoretically it should give you the smallest difference when used with bigger DVDAnalyzeMaxRel value (above 15)

Xperience
13th March 2003, 12:51
Update worked fine for me !

I can now also pick what title i want.
I could not get that to work with mrbass his reg file.
So the update is working fine for me.

Only it still takes a lot of time if a movie is 7GB large.
90 - 120min.

So for this moment i'll stick to DVD95COPY ! cause it's a little faster at the moment then instantcopy.

mgd72
13th March 2003, 13:08
I just set the DVDSaveQuality to 0. The slider was left at the default of 4.31GB. The file ended up being exactly 4.31GB. I hope it works out like this on them all ;)


Mgd72

Richk50
13th March 2003, 15:50
The registry settings in the "sticky notes" are these the default settings after update?

quadguy
13th March 2003, 16:48
Turning off the video display fixed my problems running InstantCopy on my Kayak XU800 machine with an Oxygen GVX1 video card. I thought it might be a problem with the video card (PowerDVD doesn't work properly with it)...Yup. Turned off video display and the program runs straight through. Before it would crash almost immediately.

Getting happier!

Anyone figure out if there's any truth to suggestions that this update either:

A) makes the encode go faster or
B) improves the quality of high compression encodes (e.g. 30%)?

Quad

Fmazzanti
13th March 2003, 17:39
Yesterday I gave it a try. Updated without problems and didn't had to do anything about registry hack, 'cause it seemed to keep the previous settings. But honestly, I can't see any difference from previous release... faster? Nop, better quality? Psche... honestly I can't tell.
previous version worked ok for me and seems that this one works well also.
However, one thing I must say (though I haven't tested with the update) is that sometimes IC screws up my menus. Starnge, because I usually keep them 100% (so no compression is done), and in the final product I can see sometimes strange 'holes' in a menu, showing parts of another menu. Now I don't smoke the kind of things you're thinking, I say the truth. Has anybody else experienced anything like this?

mb1
13th March 2003, 17:50
Did you read anything about 'speed optimizations' and 'quality optimizations' in the above change list. Sorry but I did not.
So what do you expect ?

I noticed your menu problem only once when I redid some ifo settings (with ifoedit).

Did you burn with IC7 or did you extract the pdi's and burn with other progs ?

Fmazzanti
13th March 2003, 18:01
Originally posted by mb1
Did you read anything about 'speed optimizations' and 'quality optimizations' in the above change list. Sorry but I did not.
So what do you expect ?

Take it easy, man... I said that because people in this thread has been asking this. Actually i do not expect anything.


I noticed your menu problem only once when I redid some ifo settings (with ifoedit).

Did you burn with IC7 or did you extract the pdi's and burn with other progs ?
Extracted the pdi's and buned with Nero. Maybe Nero can be blamed for this... don't know. All I can tell is that I've also burned other DVD's with Nero keeping original menus and never had this problem, that's why i think it's an IC issue.

Arianos
13th March 2003, 18:56
I too have experienced the "Holes in Menus" that Fmazzanti mentions. In fact, I was about to report it as a bug, as I said on the last posting on this thread
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46701
It happens on two backups of mine (Robin Williams Live on Broadway & The Emperor's New Groove), but I stopped, because upon investigating further, these "Holes" do not appear on Power DVD nor various Standalones, so they might be standalone specific. (E.G. Philips 743, Marantz 4200E, both made by Philips)
And yes, I keep my menus at 100% :)
and no, I did not mess with ifoedit.
BTW, Now, one can operate IC7 with Remote Desktop on WinXP! YES!!! :)

MackemX
13th March 2003, 19:17
LOL :D

IC ain't the problem for the majority of cases I've seen posted

it's the lacking of a stable, fully compliant OS with a fully competent operator that's the answer behind most people's problems :D

even some of the problem DVD's have been copied ok, so why is it they work for some people when others claim they don't?

ok there may be a few problem DVD's, but I reckon there are only a few and not as many as people seem to claim

another example of this is Nero, people complain about it and don't recommend it, yet in over 300 DVD's, for me it's yet to create a coaster unless the actual files I'm burning are at fault. Even my new SONY DAVS plays them without even batting an eyelid!, aswell as any other friend or relatives player I try them on, even the fussy ones

so my recommendation to people is to look at your OS, your method of backing up from ripping to burning,the quality of the media you are backing up, the quality of the media you are burning on and finally the standalone you are playing the media on before you start blaming any programs

:)

p.s. don't take this personally tho

mrbass
13th March 2003, 19:19
Originally posted by Arianos

BTW, Now, one can operate IC7 with Remote Desktop on WinXP! YES!!! :)

hmmm I rebooted and up comes this Pinnacle detects driver conflict I let it do it's thing but I was curious what was conflicting with it? Daemon tools, windvd, powerdvd, etc. Anyway maybe we won't hear reports of vobax or other strange errors some have been having.

red321
13th March 2003, 20:35
It still has the fault that it will not copy across the main movie at 100% if you change the default settings of any other title. You can deselect titles, and ramp the main movie up to 100%, but not squeeze any of the extas you want to keep without it reencoding the main movie. Odd bug.:(

TonyDaTigger
13th March 2003, 20:53
Having read a lot about the experiments done and people playign with different settings is there a definate concensus on fixing the file size in Instant Copy? Theoretically, the new registry settings should fix this but I'm not experienced enough with the program to be able to figure out the right settings.

rolandb5
13th March 2003, 22:30
Originally posted by mgd72
I just set the DVDSaveQuality to 0. The slider was left at the default of 4.31GB. The file ended up being exactly 4.31GB. I hope it works out like this on them all ;)


Mgd72

Well... just tried Green Mile, savequality set to 0. Slider left on default. And files came out at 4 Gb... Damn

Any other tries?

filmking
14th March 2003, 00:49
My DVD+R says 4.7G 2 hours.
Instant Copy defaults to no more than 4.31 unless you do the F5
forcing command. My question is how high can you go. Right now I've got IC7 updated working on White Orleander. I used IFOEdit to make a hard disk copy only of the movie with several sound tracks and the sub title... size came to 4.78g.... IC7 I'm guessing should reduce it to 4.31 because I left it on the default. How high could I have force IC to take it?

Also with the new update can you still use the reg hack?

Allistah
14th March 2003, 01:54
I just tried this as well. I have these settings:

DVDAnalyzeMaxRel=20
DVDAnalyzeMinAbs=20
DVDSaveQuality=0

Movie: Ice Age

I manually set it it so the predicted was 4.37gb. The five pdi files that I ended up with amount to 4.24 GB (4,556,759,393 bytes).

Not what I was hoping for. Owell. If someone else comes up with any magical numbers that seem to work, please post! :-)

-Allistah

mgd72
14th March 2003, 02:23
hmm.. I am having great luck. *knock on wood* I have made 2 tests that resulted in the exact size it predicted.

My method:
Ripped with DVDDecrypter in File mode
Fed file directly into IC, no IFOedit involved.

Deep Space Nine Season 1 Disc 5:
Items removed: 2.0 English audio (removed in IC, not ifoedit)
Predicted size: 4.31GB
Final size: 4.31GB

Star Trek The Next Generation Season 5 Disc 2
Items Removed: 2.0 English audio
Predicted size: 4.36GB (adjusted each episode to 53.33% and moved the menus up until the slider at bottom showed 4.36GB, then used F5 trick)
Final size: 4.36GB

Reg settings I changed:
DVDAnalyzeMaxRel=16
DVDSaveQuality=0


I'll try a movie later tonight or tomorrow and see if those turn out the same. But as of right now, IC is working perfectly for me. Anyone else getting perfect sizes?

Mgd72

Allistah
14th March 2003, 02:29
What is your DVDAnalyzeMinAbs set to? And when you say DVDAnalyzeMaxRel is set to 16, you mean it looks like this in the registry right?

DVDAnalyzeMaxRel REG_DWORD 0x00000016 (22)

Is that right? If you tell me what the DVDAnalyzeMinAbs is set to I'll try your method on IceAge and see what I come up with.

Thanks for the info man..

-Allistah

mgd72
14th March 2003, 03:00
Allistah,

yep, that is right.

DVDAnalyzeMaxRel REG_DWORD 0x00000016 (22)

DVDAnalyzeMinAbs REG_DWORD 0x00000016 (22)

DVDSaveQuality REG_DWORD 0x00000000 (0)


Hope this helps.

Mgd72

Edit: You might want to delete the discdata.add and discdata.adi in the IC install folder before you run it again. I also disable the online transcoding database. Those might have something to do with my success so far. I delete those files every time when its done with a disc.

Allistah
14th March 2003, 03:18
Ok, giving it a whirl now with those settings. I always delete those two files and have the transcoding db off. What I'm testing again is Ice Age. I've set it to 4.36gb just like you did. I didn't trim out any audio or anything. I just left it all automatic and then unchecked automatic so I could increase one of the videos so I hit the 4.36gb mark. I'll let you know what it turns out like when its done. Should be a couple hours.

-Allistah

falves
14th March 2003, 05:57
Originally posted by mrbass
hmmm I rebooted and up comes this Pinnacle detects driver conflict I let it do it's thing but I was curious what was conflicting with it? Daemon tools, windvd, powerdvd, etc. Anyway maybe we won't hear reports of vobax or other strange errors some have been having.

I too had the Pinnacle driver check come up after reboot after the 7.0.1.114 upgrade. I also let it do its thing, but am wondering exactly what it did do!

The main reason I'm interested is that I use WinFax to automatically receive faxes on this PC and it seems it is now having problems initializing the modem at startup saying the modem "could be in use by another program." If I manually set WinFax to auto-answer, all is well until the next reboot.

I have never seen this before on my PC... I don't exactly know what IC would have to do with modem drivers, but this does not seem like a coincidence.

Has anyone else seen anything like this? :confused:

Allistah
14th March 2003, 06:41
Ok, I tried Ice Age with both set to 16 and 0 for the DVDSaveQuality setting. I set the slider for 4.36gb and what I ended up with was 4.30gb (4,621,977,953 bytes). I'd call that damn close to the limit for a dvd drive. I'll try these settings with a few more dvds and report back my findings.

-Allistah

mrbass
14th March 2003, 06:42
well DVDSaveQuality = 0
didn't give me the 4.33GB instead 4.08GB.
then I tried DVDSaveQuality = 0 and DVDAnalyzeMaxRel = 25
and that gave me 4.06GB....
So unless someone finds a magic combination I think I'm just going to stick with sizing it to 4.6GB and get the 4.3GB like I've been getting.

edit: to clarify and answer Allistah's question
Both times when I got 4.08GB and 4.06GB I had the slider set to 4.33GB. Before this I've done a few and when I set the slider to 4.6 I would come up with sizes of 4.3GB or so.

Allistah
14th March 2003, 09:23
When you're setting your slider so that it reads 4.6gb, how many times has the movie been over the limit for a dvd? Just wondering how close you're getting with a setting of 4.6gb.

-Allistah

MackemX
14th March 2003, 12:24
Originally posted by Allistah
When you're setting your slider so that it reads 4.6gb, how many times has the movie been over the limit for a dvd? Just wondering how close you're getting with a setting of 4.6gb.

-Allistah
It can vary from DVD to DVD as they have different bitrates and the extras can be totally unpredictable whereas the main Title is normally predictable

the highest I have been is 4.82 and the lowest I have been is 4.58 and both gave me just uder 4.37, so there 4.6 is not the magic figure is just the one that works with most average DVD's, tho I use 4.65 myself

herrde
14th March 2003, 13:45
Hi all,

strange IC7 problem encountered yesterday. I did the update and set the following two registry entries:

DVDAnalyzeMaxRel=16
DVDSaveQuality=2

like someone suggested here. I then started to process the files of DVD "Insomnia" (ripped with DVD Decrypter in file mode first), setting the slider to 4,32 GB. At about 90% of the "analysing video quality" stage, IC7 stopped working with a black preview window but no error message. Just stopped.

I then changed the registry values back to their defaults, rebooted and started again. This time it ran completely through but in the end I had a total file size of only 4,02 GB which is obviously somewhat dissatisfying. But better than having IC7 stopping as before...

Can anyone confirm this behaviour of IC7 when changing the registry values? Or was ist just "coincidence"?

Thanx for your help!

Gero

falves
14th March 2003, 18:28
herrde,

I don't think your problem is related to the reg settings you changed. I had been having the same problem with a couple of discs and have not changed those reg settings.

I have, however, seem to have found a solution to the "black screen" freezing of IC: Set the DVDHideConversionPicture reg key to True. This prevents IC from displaying the actual video frames as they are being processed and has completely cured my problems with "black screen" freezes.

I think these freezes are related to video card drivers. I use an ATI 9000 Pro 64MB card with Catalyst drivers. Up 'til last night, I was using Catalyst 3.1 and was having the "black screen" freezes before applying the reg change above. After the reg change, no freezes. I have also updated to Catalyst 3.2 drivers, which were just released yesterday, but have not tested to see if this helps when the reg change is set back to False...

I don't really mind not seeing the actual picture of what is being processed. Particularly because I don't sit in front of my PC for two hours and watch what's going on! I just let it run while I watch TV or something, so who cares if IC displays the video or just the "three arrow" image. :)

There is also at least one other post on this forum which says that disabling the video display actually speeds up the process a litlle. Bonus!

Update: So there is no confusion, the reg change described above only works with IC 7.0.1.114 or later!

Good luck...

herrde
14th March 2003, 19:41
Hi falves,

thanks for the hint; I'll try that! BTW: I have a ATI Radeon 9000 with 64 MB too, so you're probably right!

Thanx again,

Gero

atreides93
14th March 2003, 21:54
So anyone know if that "Size" bug got fixed in this version?

mb1
14th March 2003, 21:58
No it is not fixed. They work on it.

But if you like set DVDAnalyzeMaxRel to 100% then you should have no more size bug.
That is kind of a 2pass ...

mrbass
14th March 2003, 22:35
I'll give that a whirl mb1..thanks for the tip off

filmking
15th March 2003, 04:45
Did this:

DVDAnalyzeMaxRel to 100%

Didn't cure undersizing, but did increase amount of time to transcode.

The-Big-Lebowski
15th March 2003, 09:05
Hi,

I can't get the update installed. I've tried nearly everything: reinstall -reboot - delete registry entries -reinstall- reboot - ...

Always the message appears, that a full version has to be installed, but it is.

I'm getting crazy!

Can anybody explane me how I could make the update work?
With witch installed versions of IC7 does the update work?

Thanks!

rdefino
15th March 2003, 12:18
Hi all,

How do I know what Video Title Sets (VTS) to keeep when customizing the movie?

MackemX
15th March 2003, 12:20
use the preview Tab and then click play to see the movie

but note that it's a chance to take if you use IC to remove unwanted Titles

rdefino
15th March 2003, 12:34
Using dvd decrypter, can I take a movie that I decrypted in file mode and convert it to an ISO file with out the original. When I did file mode I grabed evrything.

MackemX
15th March 2003, 12:40
Originally posted by rdefino
Using dvd decrypter, can I take a movie that I decrypted in file mode and convert it to an ISO file with out the original. When I did file mode I grabed evrything.

what exactly are you trying to do?

you don't need an ISO with IC or convert it, just select the VIDEO_TS.IFO for the movie using the Hard Disk option in the IC Device selection window and it will create the PDI files ready for burning or burn them automatically if you choose to

I'm sure if you browse the forum most of your queries will be answered :)

dvdRENEGADE
15th March 2003, 21:41
Originally posted by mb1
No it is not fixed. They work on it.

But if you like set DVDAnalyzeMaxRel to 100% then you should have no more size bug.
That is kind of a 2pass ...

Has this actually worked repeatedly for you or was this just a guess? I've tried it on several DVDs and it's still hit and miss. The last DVD came out at 4.14GB using the 100% setting.
dvdRENEGADE

h00z
16th March 2003, 04:15
Originally posted by The-Big-Lebowski
I can't get the update installed. I've tried nearly everything: reinstall -reboot - delete registry entries -reinstall- reboot - ...Try running link removed by moderator and then run the upgrade. It's what I had to do to get the update installed on one of my WinXP machines, but it should work for you too.

atreides93
16th March 2003, 10:41
filmking, undersizing isn't the "size bug" I was talking about :)
I was talking about the one where on a few movies it claims it just can't fit the movie in 4.31 gigs no matter what you do. I've only had it do that on a few movies.

TheJez
16th March 2003, 14:39
atreides93, I had this problem with my U2 - Best of DVD, and still have this problem with the IC7 update. So I guess nothing was fixed there... The only way to copy this disc was throwing some of the extra's away :-(

The-Big-Lebowski
16th March 2003, 15:43
@ h00z:

THANKS a lot!!!!!! Now it is working!!!!!! THANKS!!!!!

Arianos
16th March 2003, 21:40
Fmazzanti said:
However, one thing I must say (though I haven't tested with the update) is that sometimes IC screws up my menus. Starnge, because I usually keep them 100% (so no compression is done), and in the final product I can see sometimes strange 'holes' in a menu, showing parts of another menu. Now I don't smoke the kind of things you're thinking, I say the truth. Has anybody else experienced anything like this?
Arianos (me...) said:
I too have experienced the "Holes in Menus" that Fmazzanti mentions. ......It happens on two backups of mine (Robin Williams Live on Broadway & The Emperor's New Groove), but I stopped, because upon investigating further, these "Holes" do not appear on Power DVD nor various Standalones, so they might be standalone specific. (E.G. Philips 743, Marantz 4200E, both made by Philips)


As the original quotes - postings were here, I only saw fit to place the "solution" to the mystery here also, although it seems it affects only 2 people with 2 particular standalones in the whole wide world :) :
DVD: Swept Away (madonna)
Burned with IC7 (was in a hurry) : Macroblocks, holes on menus, fuzzy static blocks ONLY on Philips 743 standalone.
Plays perfectly OK on Cyberhome 212, PowerDVD.
Made VIDEO_TS folder with PDI Tools, burned with RecordNowDX 4.6, plays OK everywhere.

So,the conclusion is something I already knew, and had stopped doing. Burning with IC7, that is. Because from the titles mentioned by me above, Robin Williams was for sure burned with IC7 (No title on DVD-R), while the emperor was with Nero 5.5.9.17 (I wanted to check another bug at the time)
Now, if Fmazzanti could confirm this?

h00z
17th March 2003, 04:49
Ummm... Why was my link removed? Is providing a regisrty file to assist people upgrading their legal software against forum rules?

Fmazzanti
17th March 2003, 11:57
Arianos, old pal...
I never burn with IC7 directly. I haven't tested this feature actually. I always burn with Nero. Besides, I can understand PowerDVD doesn't display such things, actually PowerDVD is much less restrictive than standalones. And i can also understand CyberHome machines doesn't have such problems, because these are also less restrictive than other players....

fusion007
17th March 2003, 15:19
yep cyberhomes are the best cheap but effective mine will even play toast white or brown!!lol

Fmazzanti
17th March 2003, 15:49
Yes it it. Grab a shoe, blast it to be flat, throw it inside and it will play. That's why i say that checking something works on it doesn't mean that it si really DVD compliant.

yomper
17th March 2003, 22:57
Cyberhomes are good but a lot of them don't play nero burnt dvds as the wizard burns in udf1.05 mode and not udf1.02 which is more compatible, not that i use nero anyway,

atreides93
18th March 2003, 09:41
hooz, why would someone need a registry patch if they own the legal version of the software??
When you install the retail version, it sets up those registry settings for you.

h00z
19th March 2003, 02:10
Originally posted by atreides93
hooz, why would someone need a registry patch if they own the legal version of the software??
When you install the retail version, it sets up those registry settings for you. That's not true at all. I actually own the legal version (0.91) and the update didn't work for me on one machine. The one that did work was the machine that I had originally installed the demo, then the full (purchased) version, then the update. Going straight from the full version to the update didn't work.

So anyway... Don't assume that only the pirated versions won't update correctly. That is not the case at all. Judging from the volume of emails I've gotten asking for the registry file link, I'm guessing that I'm not the only IC owner having the problem either.

jvalla
20th March 2003, 04:00
Could you please send me that registry fix as I am one of the users that can not update. Thanks.

mcentee
21st March 2003, 17:26
Same goes for me too - as per first page of posts. I've tried uninstalling, rebooting, iunstalling etc etc and really don't want to try an fdisk and reinstalll of XP..

h00z
22nd March 2003, 05:22
Check the frontpage of my website (in my profile, or via my sig). I've posted the fix and instructions there.

mcentee
24th March 2003, 10:32
Thanks for the link and the download. However after seeing what is in your reg file I must agree with the mods that it does contain info related to licensing - maybe you ought to remove this bit before making it publicly available.

I haven't used your reg file per-se, but did use it as a fine toothcomb to go through my reg and delete keys that weren't being deleted when I uninstalled IC. Upon reinstall from scratch after doing this it worked.

h00z
26th March 2003, 00:57
You're right. I didn't notice that the reg file contained my CD Key. I've deleted those keys and updated the linked file. It should be clean now for all the "Warez Police".

Trust me, I didn't mean to be distributing my CD Key... I shelled out the money for the program and it was worth every penny. If you try it and like it, buy it (but you might still need the reg fix like I did).