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crazyasian
11th March 2003, 20:15
I'm having a problem star wars 2. After CCE 2.50 has completed encoding, my file size is larger than the original. This is what I did.

1. I ripped the movie using Smartripper.

2. Create *.d2v file from the *.m2v file created by Smartripper using DVD2Avi.

3. Create a fake .AVI file from the *.d2v using VFAPI Reader.

Here are my settings:

CCE Guesser
CCE method: Multi-Pass VBR
Total frames in movie: 204966
DVD2AVI: NTSC
Forced FILM: checked (23.9759 fps)
audio files total size: 456 MB
subtitle .bmp file size: 50 MB
cushion: 120 MB
destination size 4.384 GB
CCE avg bitrate to use: 3839 kbps
estimated output size: 3.82 GB

Bitrate Calculator
Video min: 142
Video sec: 28
custom audio bitrate: 448 kbit/s x 1 track
DVD: 1 x 4.37 GB
custom DVD: 4.37 GB
type: DVD
other ISO files: 5
calculated average bitrate: 3835 kbit/s
DVD max bitrate: 9122 kbit/s

Encode settings
Video files: check
ES
Video information file: check
audio file: uncheck

Video encoding mode
Multipass VBR
MPEG-2
2 passes

Bitrate
Ave. - 3840 (using bitrate calculator & CCEGuesser1.06)
Min. - 0
Max. - 9,000

Video
add sequence end code: check
upper field first: check
half horizontal resolution: uncheck
half vertical resolution: uncheck
prgressive frames: check
linear quantizer scale: check
zigzag scanning order: check
quick compression: uncheck
dvd compliant: check
luminance level: 16 to 235
intra DC precision: 10
aspect ratio: 16:9
timecode: all zero

GOP
M = 3
N/M = 4
GOP header: default
SEQ header: every 1 GOPs
restrict auto I frame insertion - unchecked
close all GOPs - uncheck

Quality
image quality priority: 5
anti noise filter: uncheck

Movie Information
duration: 02:22:28:19
frames: 204966
Num. of picture read: 31
Stream type: MPEG-2 MP@ML VBR
Resolution: 720*480
Aspect ratio: 16:9 Generic
Framerate: 29.97
Nom. bitrate: 9800000 Bit/Sec
VBV buffer size: 112
Constrained param. flag: No
Chroma format: 4:2:0
DCT precision: 10
Pic. structure: Frame
Field topfirst: Yes
DCT type: Field
Quantscale: Linear
Scan type: ZigZag
Frame type: Progressive

SVCD4Me
13th March 2003, 11:50
What was your original size? Re-encoded size?

Does CCEGuessor account for the size of the audio?

Make it easy on yourself and use DVD2SVCD with the options you chose. I always do that, and delete all files except the pulldown encoded movie. Haven't had a single MPV file that was too large so far.

crazyasian
13th March 2003, 16:19
The original size of the movie is 5.2 GB and the final was 5.9 GB. I added the total audio file size of 456 MB to CCEGuessor and the output of 4.3 GB to get the average bitrate.