MC encoder is better than CCE ? That's news.

[jopereira]

I confess I don't follow this CCE forum, but this weekend I did found a significant difference between CCE an MC encoder.

Obviously MC encoded best, or else this question didn't arise in first place. I always used CCE to critical project, as it's known to be "the best".

My project, made in Vegas 4.0, used pixalization (sp?) effect. The effect that gets larger and larger squares filling the image (you know, that very old transition from camcorders).
I did note that MC, using VBR, produces (much) better quality than CCE 2.5 (standard configuration, VBR 3-pass, same bitrate), where square have noticeble artifacts

Question: what are the settings you are using to get better results from CCE?
Source - DV footage

ps- MC did produce a smaller file also (!), meaning a real lower bitrate. And yes, same audio configuration (224 Kbps)...

[jfcarbel]

There is a new thread on this in the DV forum. But from what I got from my analysis of the thread is that CCE is still the best for DVD Reencodes, but for DV Canopus ProCoder is best, MainConcept next,and then CCE.

MainConcept is the encoder used in Vegas.

[Malow]

i belive too, from dv contents, MC is better... i´v been used cce until these days, in 3 pass, because 1 pass vbr make terrible moskito noise, so i convert whit MC in vegas and i see in image less noise and granularity, obviously, still sharp whit details, so i go more deep, i reduce the bitrate, and it still looks good... better than cce, reducing moooore the image starts to get bloks and lack os details, but whit littles moskito noises, still better to watch than cce does..

im happy whit vegas and MC, it only loss in speed, but, frameserving from vegas, to cce is about the same speed exporting from MC in vegas, so, MC is the choice now for me.

Malow