temporalsoften vs temporalsmoother

[jarthel]

Well I like temporalsmoother as it helps in the compressibility of the video without much quality loss.

Would I get the same effect as temporalsoften?

thanks :)

Jayel

[unplugged]

In motion parts I have found Avisynth's temporalsoften less prone to artifacts than temporalsmoother, both set with similar smoothing parameters.
Just my experience. :)

[DJ Bobo]

@ unplugged
Both with the same parameters?! explain yourself, thaught they have quite different parameters.

[unplugged]

I know about parameters,
I meant both set with similar/comparable smoothing effect

[DJ Bobo]

What will be the equivalent of TemporalSmoother(1) in TemporalSoften language? and (2)?

[jarthel]

Please keep the replies in topic (about compressibility).

Thanks

Jayel

[sh0dan]

@jarthel: Now that's gonna help you get responses! :rolleyes:

Anyway - doing some tests yourself is probably the best way for you to go. Doing compressibility tests isn't that timeconsuming.

[jarthel]

What's wrong with keeping the discussion in topic? It's very easy to create a new thread if a person wants to start a discussion that's not related to the topic and it's free!

I don't get it. :rolleyes:

jayel

[sh0dan]

The topic is "temporalsoften vs temporalsmoother" - set by yourself. IMO you shouldn't blame people for discussing quality rather than compressibility.

And my point is also more, for you to treat people with a bit more of respect. IMO a "The quality discussion is of course very relevant, but at the moment I'm more interested in the compressibility aspect" reply would be a much more constructive way, instead of bashing people, who are trying to help you.

Followups to my PM!

[jarthel]

that's why it's so hard looking for good stuff in long threads as some of the discussions is not related to the topic.

Also if the people were trying to help me, they would try to keep the discussion to what the thread starter want. :)

And I think it's also respect to the thread starter to keep the discussions in topic or as elaborated in the message.

jayel

[unplugged]

Originally posted by DJ Bobo
What will be the equivalent of TemporalSmoother(1) in TemporalSoften language? and (2)?
Don't remember much, last time I have used them was 5 months ago... I see just (on the site's FAQ) now it has new options:
last time I have tried with good result compromise TemporalSoften(1,3,3)
with mid-high noise content, now (with new version) I think you could try TemporalSoften(1,3,3,mode=2,15)
However, the thing that I can suggest for sure is radius=1, at least from my opinion.

[sh0dan]

@unplugged: You should actually try larger "radius" settings, with mode 2 and scenechange detection.
It will create a more stable image, and will help compressibility. The ghosting of "classic mode 1" isn't an issue anymore.

In my own experience:

Soft filtering:
Temporalsoften(2,3,3,mode=2,scenechange=6)

Medium filtering:
Temporalsoften(3,5,5,mode=2,scenechange=10)

Heavy filtering:
Temporalsoften(4,8,8,mode=2,scenechange=10)

[DJ Bobo]

Thanks @ unplugged and sh0dan for the answers.
I switched recently to TSoften (as I switched to AVS2.5 and its mpeg2dec3) and wasn't able to get similiar results to TSmoother(1).
Now I got a good approximation, thanks again.