Jerky picture with PC or stand alone DVD player, but the mounted cue file plays fine

[Matpod]

Hello, I'm Matt first time post

I ripped and encoded a DVD and everything went fine. When I burn the Image to a CD and play it with Power DVD on my Computer or put it in a stand alone player, the picture is sort of lagging behind. The DVD drive or player cannot seem to keep up. I mounted the cue file with Daemon and it plays fine with Power DVD that way. I read some other posts and (I'm not sure) but I think it could be the field order, but I'm using DVD2SVCD ver 1.1.2 build 1 and I have that set to automatic.

I'm sure this is something simple I'm overlooking and I would appreciate any help anyone would give me.

o yea and here is the log file if it helps...


WNASPI32.DLL 4.6.0.1021
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- 2/28/2003 1:58:18 AM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.1.2 build 1
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 2/28/2003 1:58:26 AM
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[D:\For Temp Stuff\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[D:\For Temp Stuff\VTS_01_1.vob,D:\For Temp Stuff\VTS_01_2.vob,D:\For Temp Stuff\VTS_01_3.vob,D:\For Temp Stuff\VTS_01_4.vob,D:\For Temp Stuff\VTS_01_5.vob,D:\For Temp Stuff\VTS_01_6.vob]
Analyzing DVD2AVI Project file
Force Film activated!
Framerate: 23976
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 2/28/2003 2:02:18 AM
- Free on drive C: 67640.74 mb
- Free on drive D: 28274.77 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: D:\For Temp Stuff\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: 0 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 2/28/2003 4:38:18 AM
- Free on drive C: 67635.37 mb
- Free on drive D: 28271.67 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Encoding Audio. Filename: D:\For Temp Stuff\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "D:\For Temp Stuff\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "D:\FORTEM~1\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "D:\FORTEM~1\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -s surround -g max ) -shibatch( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 192 -m s )
Audio conversion of D:\For Temp Stuff\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 2/28/2003 4:56:57 AM
- Free on drive C: 67635.39 mb
- Free on drive D: 28271.67 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: D:\sizeMATTers Title.bmp
Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultLastCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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- 2/28/2003 4:57:28 AM
- Free on drive C: 67634.27 mb
- Free on drive D: 28271.67 mb
- Video Encoding using TMPGEnc
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- Encoding C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TitlePicture.bmp.avs
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\TMPG\TMPGEnc.exe" "D:\For Temp Stuff\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.avs
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\TMPG\TMPGEnc.exe" "D:\For Temp Stuff\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\LastCDPicture.bmp.avs
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\TMPG\TMPGEnc.exe" "D:\For Temp Stuff\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding Test Clip C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file_CQ_TEST.avs
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\TMPG\TMPGEnc.exe" "D:\For Temp Stuff\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding Test Clip C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file_CQ_TEST.avs
Wanted: 1487608906 (1452743kb) Predicted: 1454899185 (1420800kb) Using CQ Value: 80.00
Calculated next CQ Value: 80.30
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\TMPG\TMPGEnc.exe" "D:\For Temp Stuff\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding Test Clip C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file_CQ_TEST.avs
Wanted: 1487608906 (1452743kb) Predicted: 1467285752 (1432896kb) Using CQ Value: 80.30
Calculated next CQ Value: 80.60
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\TMPG\TMPGEnc.exe" "D:\For Temp Stuff\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding Test Clip C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file_CQ_TEST.avs
Wanted: 1487608906 (1452743kb) Predicted: 1478721518 (1444064kb) Using CQ Value: 80.60
Final CQ Value: 80.60
- Encoding C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file.avs
StreamSectors: 1663691176
AudioSectors: 144292512
VideoPAPO: 23536296
ScanOffsetBytes: 127850
SeqAligningBytes: 8125603
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 900.00
PureMPEGStream: 1487608906.40
Seconds: 5931.92
CalcMPEGStream: 1487608906.40
Frames: 142056
CDSize: 800.00
Number of CDs: 2
Cut point 795.00
Using CQ Value: 80.52
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\FORTEM~1\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
BicubicResize(480,480,0.0,0.6)
----AVS End----

Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\TMPG\TMPGEnc.exe" "D:\For Temp Stuff\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

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- 2/28/2003 1:47:15 PM
- Free on drive C: 67637.84 mb
- Free on drive D: 28234.75 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TitlePicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 2/28/2003 1:47:30 PM
- Free on drive C: 67637.81 mb
- Free on drive D: 28234.75 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 2/28/2003 1:47:43 PM
- Free on drive C: 67637.80 mb
- Free on drive D: 28234.74 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\LastCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 2/28/2003 1:47:57 PM
- Free on drive C: 67637.77 mb
- Free on drive D: 28234.73 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 5
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 5 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "D:\For Temp Stuff\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of D:\For Temp Stuff\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2912 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 2917
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 5 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "D:\For Temp Stuff\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 2/28/2003 2:02:40 PM
- Free on drive C: 67637.65 mb
- Free on drive D: 26625.74 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: D:\For Temp Stuff\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2917.773 seconds D:\For Temp Stuff\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: D:\For Temp Stuff\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
3007.478 seconds D:\For Temp Stuff\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 2/28/2003 2:04:44 PM
- Free on drive C: 67637.56 mb
- Free on drive D: 26625.34 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 12

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="D:\FORTEM~1\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="D:\FORTEM~1\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "D:\FORTEM~1\VCDXBU~1.XML"
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- 2/28/2003 2:07:49 PM
- Free on drive C: 67633.95 mb
- Free on drive D: 25814.35 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 9

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="D:\FORTEM~1\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="D:\FORTEM~1\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" "D:\FORTEM~1\VCDXBU~2.XML"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 2/28/2003 2:10:24 PM
- Free on drive C: 67631.88 mb
- Free on drive D: 24988.46 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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[markrb]

Great first post we need more like you around here.

I can't see anything obvious in that log so I have a few questions that might help.

Did you rip the DVD with DVD2SVCD? That is the only officially supported way to rip the DVD as other rippers can cause issues.

Are you doing Mpeg-1 or Mpeg-2 video?

What are the settings on the bottom of your bitrate tab?

If you want to check field order get Bitrate viewer. When you load the VOB it will have a section that says Upper Field first. If that is Yes then you want to set it to Top Field First. If it says No then the opposite is true.

Try buring the CD at the slowest your burner will burn or 4X whichever is greater. This doesn't sound like the problem, but you never know.

Mark

[Matpod]

I ripped with DVD2SVCD using the Internal Routines, I now usually use vstrip via DVD2SVCD.

I'm using Mpeg-2 video.

at the bottom of the bitrate i have:
Max 2530 min 300 (an unchecked box) Min average 1600 and max avg 2230
and I do have the warn if the bitrate gets above 2756.(which is probably what you meant from what I read on the other threads)

And the last thing is where can I get a bitrate viewer? I looked at doom9.org, but I didn't find one there. I'm asking cause I can't seem to find one.

Thanks for the fast reply :)

[markrb]

http://www.tecoltd.com/

With the info you gave me I am still a little stumped at this point.

Might as well try swapping the field order if burning slower doesn't help.

Mark

[Matpod]

Ok, I'll try that tonight. Thanks again.

[Matpod]

I tried 2 things, first I burned the images I had at the lowest speed, which is x8 on my x40 burner. And the second is i recompressed the vobs again using the upper field first option. Both play fine when I mount the images or play them in my DVD drive on my computer. But if I play them in a stand alone player, the picture is still shaky. But less then it was before.

I was told it's because the read speed on my drive can handle the SVCD but the stand alone player I tried it in has a lower read speed.

[markrb]

Have you looked your DVD player up at www.vcdhelp.com to see if it really supports SVCD's or if there are any known issues? Make sure to read the comments as well since some people will say it works, but it really doesn't

Mark

[Matpod]

Well I didn't fix the problem. It's cause my DVD drive seems to be broken. I'm not sure if it is a software or hardware problem. So that will put a halt on my projects...

But thank you for your help.

[shutt1e]

sometimes the jerky problem happened to me too.
try to set in the bbmpeg advanced settings
timestamps I frame (only)

then remux audio+video

i don't know exactly what timestamps are but with some my conversion
i've get jerky video while audio plays fine, it seem that jerkys appears after a scene with rapid motion

try and let me know